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September 07, 2015, 11:05:15 AM
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And why do people think that QS has been banned Huh

He put in his signature that he was banned for three days.
Actually it was his personal message, but yeah nearly the same thing. @QS just a bit off-topic, the Rollin's campaign is ending , maybe time to change your signature.



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September 07, 2015, 11:09:15 AM
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I am glad you are proud of being a part of being able to take down someone who puts a lot of effort into stopping others from being able to steal

Just because you stopped others from being able to steal, doesn't give you cart blanche to steal yourself.   Undecided

I also put a lot of effort into stopping others from stealing, but I am honest and OPEN.  That is the difference between you and I.

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September 07, 2015, 11:09:24 AM
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And lastly, was QS banned?
@ DiscoverCebu - why exactly are you so interested?
Yup, must've been obvious.
If you access your Panther account, and see my PM you'll probably know.
P.S: Awesome find, hope you didn't have to "research" much.
You still have not answered my question as to why you are so interested.
No reason at all, just a bit worrisome to see a "default-trust scam buster" acting this way.
P.S: But of course, you'll start having conspiracies with this statement. Hope I don't end up the same as tsp  Cheesy
Alright well good luck with your investigation trolling

I am glad you are proud of being a part of being able to take down someone who puts a lot of effort into stopping others from being able to steal
No worries, I'll keep going .
I'm not against your scam-busting though(and I'm sure none, at least most, of the "opposers" are), you do a pretty good job of it. But its the other "bussiness" thats a bit worrisome. BTW maybe have this discussion in PMs , or maybe a different thread if you like, or answer my question in the OP ofc(not the "why was QS banned" part).
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I have no idea who the fuck "percy" is.

Well I am glad to hear that you are concerned that someone who has made a lot of enemies preventing others from stealing (and costing thieves money in the process) was trying to protect his identity in case he traded with those thieves or someone who would turn out to be a their in the future.

OFC you wouldn't want a thief to have some kind of leverage over the person who puts effort into stopping the thefts.
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September 07, 2015, 11:10:21 AM
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I am glad you are proud of being a part of being able to take down someone who puts a lot of effort into stopping others from being able to steal

Just because you stopped others from being able to steal, doesn't give you cart blanche to steal yourself.   Undecided

I put a lot of effort into stopping others from stealing, but I am honest and OPEN.  That is the difference between you and I.
Who the fuck did I steal from? Please post a txid
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September 07, 2015, 11:12:21 AM
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Well I am glad to hear that you are concerned that someone who has made a lot of enemies preventing others from stealing (and costing thieves money in the process) was trying to protect his identity in case he traded with those thieves or someone who would turn out to be a their in the future.

OFC you wouldn't want a thief to have some kind of leverage over the person who puts effort into stopping the thefts.

Oh the irony!  (again)   Roll Eyes

Didn't you just post what you thought was my address, despite the fact I moved into a new house in Aug?  Despite the fact I've never lived there?

What was that other than an attempt of some kind of leverage over me?  Hypocrite.   Undecided

Who the fuck did I steal from? Please post a txid

You stole coins pretending to be a neutral third party.  YOU post the txid.

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September 07, 2015, 11:17:07 AM
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Well I am glad to hear that you are concerned that someone who has made a lot of enemies preventing others from stealing (and costing thieves money in the process) was trying to protect his identity in case he traded with those thieves or someone who would turn out to be a their in the future.

OFC you wouldn't want a thief to have some kind of leverage over the person who puts effort into stopping the thefts.

Oh the irony!  (again)   Roll Eyes

Didn't you just post what you thought was my address, despite the fact I moved into a new house in Aug?  Despite the fact I've never lived there?

What was that other than an attempt of some kind of leverage over me?  Hypocrite.   Undecided

Who the fuck did I steal from? Please post a txid

You stole coins pretending to be a neutral third party.  YOU post the txid.
I thought that it was your opinion that someone who makes enemies because they stop others from being able to steal should have their identity exposed? I am confused as to why you have not send me your new address to post. If this isn't the case then I will kindly remove that address, but I would want some clarification.

What txid exactly do you want me to post? Are you saying that I owed someone money and did not pay them?
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September 07, 2015, 11:18:30 AM
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I am confused as to why you have not send me your new address to post.

You are?   Roll Eyes

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Good luck with that.

TBH, thanks to BadBear leaking the identity of my alt to you, I will most likely be leaving soon anyway.
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Good luck with that.

TBH, thanks to BadBear leaking the identity of my alt to you, I will most likely be leaving soon anyway.

You mean your QuickSeller account will be leaving soon.

The lure of irreversible currency is strong.  You'll stay under various alt accounts.

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September 07, 2015, 11:21:35 AM
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I am confused as to why you have not send me your new address to post.

You are?   Roll Eyes
Well if you think it is appropriate to have someone who has made enemies from scammers to have their identity/address exposed, then I would think you would post your own address. Unless you don't think you have made enemies from scammers.
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September 07, 2015, 11:25:57 AM
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I have no idea who the fuck "percy" is.

Well I am glad to hear that you are concerned that someone who has made a lot of enemies preventing others from stealing (and costing thieves money in the process) was trying to protect his identity in case he traded with those thieves or someone who would turn out to be a their in the future.

OFC you wouldn't want a thief to have some kind of leverage over the person who puts effort into stopping the thefts.
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Glad you asked man, don't think you may read books but Percy here means Percy from "Percy Jackson and the Olympians".
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Don't worry QS - I can scam bust this forum until we find a replacement for you.
Good luck with that.

TBH, thanks to BadBear leaking the identity of my alt to you, I will most likely be leaving soon anyway.
Hope I' not putting my hand in fire, but maybe you guys can have this conversation in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.msg12349801#msg12349801 or this https://us21.chatzy.com/68209214195957 , if you want instant messages.
EDIT: Seems they calmed down now.



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September 07, 2015, 11:26:20 AM
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Don't worry QS - I can scam bust this forum until we find a replacement for you.
Good luck with that.

TBH, thanks to BadBear leaking the identity of my alt to you, I will most likely be leaving soon anyway.

You mean your QuickSeller account will be leaving soon.

The lure of irreversible currency is strong.  You'll stay under various alt accounts.
No, probably not. With the exception of a few newbie alts that I have long abandoned and had used to catch scammers refusing escrow/ect. (and don't even remember the names of which), I really do not have any unknown alts.

If I am going to have to risk having my identity exposed when trading physical items unlike I was in the past, and the level of trolling/harassment I have been subject to lately, I really don't have much of a reason to stay. IDGAF if you believe me or not, and I could care less about winning an argument with some random person on the internet.
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TBH, thanks to BadBear leaking the identity of my alt to you

No I didn't. I haven't talked to Vod in months.

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TBH, thanks to BadBear leaking the identity of my alt to you

No I didn't. I haven't talked to Vod in months.
Oh well, I only assumed because Vod had made a statement about you removing me from DT if I had faked my ban, which was very shortly after I had responded to you about that very issue.

edit: sorry

edit2: either way it still leaked based on the timing of your removal. :/ It isn't like any of the allegations affected any of my ratings....
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edit: sorry

And the apology to me for calling me an asshole out of the blue when I was defending you?


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If it weren't for you doing so many controversial things Quickseller, people would be much more appreciative about you going after scammers. There's a n old saying in my country that goes like this "You can't appreciate something from the past enough until you've lived with an inferior replacement."

It's a pity that the person who filled the forum's 'scam busting' position is you. Every time someone makes a post about you I know that it's going to be about something controversial you did. Don't you think you've been given enough chances? You keep repeating your mistakes over and over, your excuse that you're spending time preventing people from stealing is becoming more and more worthless as you keep abusing it. Numerous times you were given the time to change or be forgotten but you just kept doing it. If this is going to be the last time then it feels perfectly justified.

I, for one, would welcome Vod back. His work seems more desirable than ever now that we see how badly trusting you turned.

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And the apology to me for calling me an asshole out of the blue when I was defending you?


I don't think you were defending me then, and you clearly are not defending me now.

I certainly do not think it is unreasonable to want my RL identity not associated with QS. I also certainly do not think it is unreasonable to want to be able to protect my own money. I also don't think that either of the people who I acted as escrow with when I was trading with them via my alt feel they were wronged. One of them had requested that I release escrow to myself after a USPS tracking number was confirmed on USPS.com, and the other came back to me multiple times asking to trade with me again. I think that both parties feel that they got a fair price for the trades, even after paying an escrow fee, and I would find it unlikely that either party is going to ask for a refund even though one will be honored upon request. I don't milk the people who I trade with out of every last penny that I can, I trade at prices I believe that both myself and the person I am trading with feel is fair. I think this last part is the most important thing to consider out of this situation; if everyone involved in a trade feels like they got a fair deal, then no one was really harmed. I really do not think anyone can argue this point.

I do think you have been a great contribution to the forum, and I do apologize for calling you an asshole.

I will make you a deal, I will remove your previous address (I have no control over what anyone besides myself has posted), and you review this post very carefully, and review all the references/links carefully. Next look at the post directly below the post I linked, it is tspacepilot "responding" to me, however he did not address any of my concerns about his harassing behavior. Please note that he did not respond to any of my concerns. Then look at this post by Panthers, and note how zero opinion was expressed (also please remember that panthers did receive an unsolicited nivation to post in that thread by tspacepilot). After you do that, please take a day to think about if you think tspacepilot was engaging in any kind of harassment and/or trolling by anyone who did not have a negative rating against him at the time (IIRC, you have said that you are retired, so I would assume you have some spare time). After you take a day (or longer if desired) to consider all of the facts presented, come back and tell me if you really think that tspacepilot was not harassing anyone who did not have a negative rating against him at the time. I think you, if anyone would be able to appreciate this because of the number of times you have been harassed by various scammers (but remember, you are only looking for people tspacepilot harassed who did not have a negative trust rating against him at the time of the harassment). If you think that he was engaging in trolling/harassment of others, then do you think there might be a possibility that his claims of being "bullied" might not be entirely valid?

Once you do this, then review this thread, with TF on your ignore list. Look at it closely and see if tspacepilot ever admits to receiving money that was not intended for him, and see when exactly (if ever) he tried to repay this money received. At this point, I would ask that you reconsider your opinion regarding tspacepilot not being a scammer. You should be able to even say that tspacepilot was asked for the money back based on his own posts in that thread. I have said this many times before, and I will say it again, I do not like the fact that I am going after someone who scammed someone as TF, however it is not okay for someone to scam a scammer.

You previously said that I was scamming, yet both people who I escrowed for while trading with my alt seemed to be happy with the overall trade, and will probably not ask for a refund of the escrow fee (but if they do, it will be refunded to them promptly). On the other hand, there is someone who had admitted to receiving some amount of money that they should not have, and only eventually offered to repay a troll amount of money after being repeatedly told that he was wrong. Do you see the disconnect in this case?

I have removed the only instance of where I posted your previous address, although I do still think you were advocating that those with scammer enemies should have their identity/address exposed.
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September 07, 2015, 01:52:04 PM
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I don't think you were defending me then

Well I was.

Re-read what I wrote.  I was in summary saying: "I believe QS was banned.  BB is a sponsor of his trust, and if QS were to lie about being banned, BB would know about it and probably remove him from DT for lying."

I had no idea BB had removed you from default trust - like he said we haven't communicated since before I left.

and you clearly are not defending me now.

You're right - I'm not.

You've shown yourself to 1) have a hot temper and 2) be unwilling to change.  You need to step back and look at the big picture from time to time.  You need to be willing to admit you've made a mistake and fix it.  TC wrote the same thing to me (a lot more eloquently I should add) a few months back and I took his advice.
 
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Alright well remember this post the next time someone starts trolling you. Right now you left positive trust to someone who has a history of months-long harassment of people who do not agree with him.

I do very carefully consider all of the facts prior to me leaving a rating. This allows me to rarely be wrong about them. I am not wrong in the case of tspacepilot.

You were encouraging a situation that could potentially result in my personal details leaking, this is after I had cost a lot of scammers a lot of money from them not being able to steal from others, money they most probably thought they would be able to steal. I have received a number of threats over the ~1/2 year from people who are upset that I stopped them from scamming, including death threats from KoS. I have no idea why BadBear removed me from his trust list as nothing in this situation affects any of my sent (nor received) ratings. However you did (inadvertently or not) promptly point out that BB had removed me from his list (which he did without allowing me the opportunity to publicly resign to allow for questions if Panthers was really mine or not - allowing my identity to be more safe), which essentially confirmed my alt.

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You were encouraging a situation that could potentially result in my personal details leaking

Not my concern - I wasn't doing it on purpose or for that intention.

What you are accusing me of is simply walking by your hiding spot, drawing attention to you.   I didn't know you were hiding there - I couldn't have done anything different.

(However, you did post a physical address with the explicit intention of putting me in harm.)




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