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Of course! Anything is possible. This is CRYPTO!
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Vernon later denied that he had stolen the funds, pointing a finger at hackers whom he alleged had struck the exchange over a several-year period. Come again! The hack occurred over a couple couple-hour period according to Paul Vernon's own words and proven via the blockchain. How the fuck was CoinDesk capable of getting this simple fact wrong?
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When will justice reach the level at which people get a FULL repair of what they lost to the crime?
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September 05, 2017, 08:19:30 AM |
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Don't hold your breath. And I see no reason at all to continue with crypto anymore. I am tired of being the bad guy treated like shit across crypto so thieves and greedy losers can control it. And drive it down the toilet.
If the pajeets want me gone? They can pay me.
This could very well be my last post. What's to say.. It all started with good intentions. But.. Money.
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can anyone give me some advice, BigVern/cryptsy said that the servers where " wiped" now i checked my wallet in the blockchain and found out my digibyte coins were transferred after the so called wipe, they were transferred a few times and are now located on the Poloniex servers
is there any change i can make a lawsuit against poloniex, demanding my coins back, i have evidence, besides that these are stolen coins
please let me know thanks
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September 05, 2017, 02:56:22 PM Last edit: September 05, 2017, 03:12:03 PM by TheTommyD |
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can anyone give me some advice, BigVern/cryptsy said that the servers where " wiped" now i checked my wallet in the blockchain and found out my digibyte coins were transferred after the so called wipe, they were transferred a few times and are now located on the Poloniex servers
is there any change i can make a lawsuit against poloniex, demanding my coins back, i have evidence, besides that these are stolen coins
please let me know thanks
i followed the money, it's not on the cryptsy servers, its located on poliniex now, site is same setup Wow, this needs to reported the class action group so they can look in to it and try to seize assets if Poloniex are holding Cryptsy money The Receivers already know. It was in one of their reports that they are aware of coins sent to Poloniex If the Lawyers recover any of the coins on Polo; any approved claimants will get fractional amounts. If you asking if you could do it on your own? Not likely if Silver Law Can't do it. I just checked The Court Info: Docket last updated: 11 hours ago Thursday, August 31, 2017 128 notice Notice of Change of Address Thu 12:00 PM NOTICE of Change of Address by David Chad Silver (Silver, David) Monday, August 28, 2017 127 motion Settlement Mon 12:35 PM Unopposed MOTION for Settlement Motion to Distribute Settlement Funds by Brandon Leidel. Responses due by 9/11/2017 (Wites, Marc)
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September 06, 2017, 04:57:25 AM |
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When will justice reach the level at which people get a FULL repair of what they lost to the crime?
Never. Cuz, Capitalism.
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September 06, 2017, 12:02:58 PM |
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When will justice reach the level at which people get a FULL repair of what they lost to the crime?
That would be right after never.
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September 06, 2017, 12:11:45 PM |
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can anyone give me some advice, BigVern/cryptsy said that the servers where " wiped" now i checked my wallet in the blockchain and found out my digibyte coins were transferred after the so called wipe, they were transferred a few times and are now located on the Poloniex servers
is there any change i can make a lawsuit against poloniex, demanding my coins back, i have evidence, besides that these are stolen coins
please let me know thanks
So, heres the thing with that... How do you know it wasnt the lawyer moving the funds to be liquidated for the overall sum of monies collected? If the law office took and moved the coins to poloniex they are not stolen, and are being sold for cash to pay off all the creditors. Talk to silverman law office and see what they can tell you about those coins. I can say tho even if they recovered them, you will not get them back yourself. Too many people lost coins, and if they were recovered they would be sold and the money added to the general fund.
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September 06, 2017, 12:19:58 PM |
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Don't hold your breath. And I see no reason at all to continue with crypto anymore. I am tired of being the bad guy treated like shit across crypto so thieves and greedy losers can control it. And drive it down the toilet.
If the pajeets want me gone? They can pay me.
This could very well be my last post. What's to say.. It all started with good intentions. But.. Money.
stfu crypto is finally getting good and you come at me with this? lol ~ you miss the cryptsy trollbox alot huh?
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September 06, 2017, 05:24:05 PM |
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can anyone give me some advice, BigVern/cryptsy said that the servers where " wiped" now i checked my wallet in the blockchain and found out my digibyte coins were transferred after the so called wipe, they were transferred a few times and are now located on the Poloniex servers
is there any change i can make a lawsuit against poloniex, demanding my coins back, i have evidence, besides that these are stolen coins
please let me know thanks
So, heres the thing with that... How do you know it wasnt the lawyer moving the funds to be liquidated for the overall sum of monies collected? If the law office took and moved the coins to poloniex they are not stolen, and are being sold for cash to pay off all the creditors. Talk to silverman law office and see what they can tell you about those coins. I can say tho even if they recovered them, you will not get them back yourself. Too many people lost coins, and if they were recovered they would be sold and the money added to the general fund. Didn't Silvers/Silverman publicly disclose which route the salvage coins were to/did take?
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September 06, 2017, 05:41:05 PM |
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can anyone give me some advice, BigVern/cryptsy said that the servers where " wiped" now i checked my wallet in the blockchain and found out my digibyte coins were transferred after the so called wipe, they were transferred a few times and are now located on the Poloniex servers
is there any change i can make a lawsuit against poloniex, demanding my coins back, i have evidence, besides that these are stolen coins
please let me know thanks
So, heres the thing with that... How do you know it wasnt the lawyer moving the funds to be liquidated for the overall sum of monies collected? If the law office took and moved the coins to poloniex they are not stolen, and are being sold for cash to pay off all the creditors. Talk to silverman law office and see what they can tell you about those coins. I can say tho even if they recovered them, you will not get them back yourself. Too many people lost coins, and if they were recovered they would be sold and the money added to the general fund. Didn't Silvers/Silverman publicly disclose which route the salvage coins were to/did take? Yes they Did. They know Coinbase Laundered a lot of Verns (Our) Coins. They are going after Coinbase, Part II of the Lawsuits. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/florida/flsdce/9:2016cv81992/497843/36/
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September 06, 2017, 06:26:35 PM |
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noobs: most your coins went to the goldcoin dev rite? ( vlad2vlad got bbqcoin from him post disbursement for example) ..in the endgame the most actual value btc was pilfered by Alex Sterk(Sterky)&Julian(jyap) via JBS Jumucks 10x1 split..look it up* *cough-wink*
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September 10, 2017, 02:56:38 PM |
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can anyone give me some advice, BigVern/cryptsy said that the servers where " wiped" now i checked my wallet in the blockchain and found out my digibyte coins were transferred after the so called wipe, they were transferred a few times and are now located on the Poloniex servers
is there any change i can make a lawsuit against poloniex, demanding my coins back, i have evidence, besides that these are stolen coins
please let me know thanks
So, heres the thing with that... How do you know it wasnt the lawyer moving the funds to be liquidated for the overall sum of monies collected? If the law office took and moved the coins to poloniex they are not stolen, and are being sold for cash to pay off all the creditors. Talk to silverman law office and see what they can tell you about those coins. I can say tho even if they recovered them, you will not get them back yourself. Too many people lost coins, and if they were recovered they would be sold and the money added to the general fund. Didn't Silvers/Silverman publicly disclose which route the salvage coins were to/did take? Yes they Did. They know Coinbase Laundered a lot of Verns (Our) Coins. They are going after Coinbase, Part II of the Lawsuits. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/florida/flsdce/9:2016cv81992/497843/36/Honestly, I don't think much is gonna come of it. Coinbase has become a big powerful player in the crypto theater with a lot of crypto funds sloshing around and I'm sure they most likely have a top notch legal team at the ready to defend and liigate this thing for many moons to come. Then again its crypto and yeah, nothing surprises me anymore in this space. (wonder if they pay the lawyers in bitcoin? )
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TheTommyD
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September 10, 2017, 06:21:50 PM |
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can anyone give me some advice, BigVern/cryptsy said that the servers where " wiped" now i checked my wallet in the blockchain and found out my digibyte coins were transferred after the so called wipe, they were transferred a few times and are now located on the Poloniex servers
is there any change i can make a lawsuit against poloniex, demanding my coins back, i have evidence, besides that these are stolen coins
please let me know thanks
So, heres the thing with that... How do you know it wasnt the lawyer moving the funds to be liquidated for the overall sum of monies collected? If the law office took and moved the coins to poloniex they are not stolen, and are being sold for cash to pay off all the creditors. Talk to silverman law office and see what they can tell you about those coins. I can say tho even if they recovered them, you will not get them back yourself. Too many people lost coins, and if they were recovered they would be sold and the money added to the general fund. Didn't Silvers/Silverman publicly disclose which route the salvage coins were to/did take? Yes they Did. They know Coinbase Laundered a lot of Verns (Our) Coins. They are going after Coinbase, Part II of the Lawsuits. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/florida/flsdce/9:2016cv81992/497843/36/Honestly, I don't think much is gonna come of it. Coinbase has become a big powerful player in the crypto theater with a lot of crypto funds sloshing around and I'm sure they most likely have a top notch legal team at the ready to defend and liigate this thing for many moons to come. Then again its crypto and yeah, nothing surprises me anymore in this space. (wonder if they pay the lawyers in bitcoin? ) I disagree. Coinbase is supposedly following fincen rules. They obviously broke the rules so it becomes a matter of time to see what they settle for. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/florida/flsdce/9:2016cv81992/497843/36/The Judge already ditched Arbitration.
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can anyone give me some advice, BigVern/cryptsy said that the servers where " wiped" now i checked my wallet in the blockchain and found out my digibyte coins were transferred after the so called wipe, they were transferred a few times and are now located on the Poloniex servers
is there any change i can make a lawsuit against poloniex, demanding my coins back, i have evidence, besides that these are stolen coins
please let me know thanks
So, heres the thing with that... How do you know it wasnt the lawyer moving the funds to be liquidated for the overall sum of monies collected? If the law office took and moved the coins to poloniex they are not stolen, and are being sold for cash to pay off all the creditors. Talk to silverman law office and see what they can tell you about those coins. I can say tho even if they recovered them, you will not get them back yourself. Too many people lost coins, and if they were recovered they would be sold and the money added to the general fund. Didn't Silvers/Silverman publicly disclose which route the salvage coins were to/did take? Yes they Did. They know Coinbase Laundered a lot of Verns (Our) Coins. They are going after Coinbase, Part II of the Lawsuits. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/florida/flsdce/9:2016cv81992/497843/36/Honestly, I don't think much is gonna come of it. Coinbase has become a big powerful player in the crypto theater with a lot of crypto funds sloshing around and I'm sure they most likely have a top notch legal team at the ready to defend and liigate this thing for many moons to come. Then again its crypto and yeah, nothing surprises me anymore in this space. (wonder if they pay the lawyers in bitcoin? ) I disagree. Coinbase is supposedly following fincen rules. They obviously broke the rules so it becomes a matter of time to see what they settle for. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/florida/flsdce/9:2016cv81992/497843/36/The Judge already ditched Arbitration. OK, fair enough, however I'm actually not familiar with the actual evidence of Coinbase "obviously breaking the rules". So serious question... can you enlighten me? I'm quite curious to know how you think this is gonna play out as you seem to be knowledgeable in the legal matters,links etc. Thanx.
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can anyone give me some advice, BigVern/cryptsy said that the servers where " wiped" now i checked my wallet in the blockchain and found out my digibyte coins were transferred after the so called wipe, they were transferred a few times and are now located on the Poloniex servers
is there any change i can make a lawsuit against poloniex, demanding my coins back, i have evidence, besides that these are stolen coins
please let me know thanks
So, heres the thing with that... How do you know it wasnt the lawyer moving the funds to be liquidated for the overall sum of monies collected? If the law office took and moved the coins to poloniex they are not stolen, and are being sold for cash to pay off all the creditors. Talk to silverman law office and see what they can tell you about those coins. I can say tho even if they recovered them, you will not get them back yourself. Too many people lost coins, and if they were recovered they would be sold and the money added to the general fund. Didn't Silvers/Silverman publicly disclose which route the salvage coins were to/did take? Yes they Did. They know Coinbase Laundered a lot of Verns (Our) Coins. They are going after Coinbase, Part II of the Lawsuits. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/florida/flsdce/9:2016cv81992/497843/36/Honestly, I don't think much is gonna come of it. Coinbase has become a big powerful player in the crypto theater with a lot of crypto funds sloshing around and I'm sure they most likely have a top notch legal team at the ready to defend and liigate this thing for many moons to come. Then again its crypto and yeah, nothing surprises me anymore in this space. (wonder if they pay the lawyers in bitcoin? ) I disagree. Coinbase is supposedly following fincen rules. They obviously broke the rules so it becomes a matter of time to see what they settle for. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/florida/flsdce/9:2016cv81992/497843/36/The Judge already ditched Arbitration. OK, fair enough, however I'm actually not familiar with the actual evidence of Coinbase "obviously breaking the rules". So serious question... can you enlighten me? I'm quite curious to know how you think this is gonna play out as you seem to be knowledgeable in the legal matters,links etc. Thanx. I'm pretty sure that the astute lawyers wouldn't have pursued the case if they felt that they didn't have a case. Recall, Paul Vernon first used Coinbase to liquidate bitcoins for his million-dollar-plus loan supposedly prior to the hack, then preceded to liquidate millions of dollars worth of bitcoins to his personal and business bank accounts thereafter. Surely, Coinbase should've known that something was amiss, i.e. knowing that Cryptsy would in effect be bone dry, and that's not even them knowing about the hacked(?) coins leaving the platform. Bottomline, Coinbase should've at least notified the authorities that mega millions was moved but didn't. TBC, I've have no real issues with Coinbase, just relaying what I believe to be true till proven incorrect on my assessment.
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gembitz
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September 12, 2017, 04:04:47 AM |
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can anyone give me some advice, BigVern/cryptsy said that the servers where " wiped" now i checked my wallet in the blockchain and found out my digibyte coins were transferred after the so called wipe, they were transferred a few times and are now located on the Poloniex servers
is there any change i can make a lawsuit against poloniex, demanding my coins back, i have evidence, besides that these are stolen coins
please let me know thanks
So, heres the thing with that... How do you know it wasnt the lawyer moving the funds to be liquidated for the overall sum of monies collected? If the law office took and moved the coins to poloniex they are not stolen, and are being sold for cash to pay off all the creditors. Talk to silverman law office and see what they can tell you about those coins. I can say tho even if they recovered them, you will not get them back yourself. Too many people lost coins, and if they were recovered they would be sold and the money added to the general fund. Didn't Silvers/Silverman publicly disclose which route the salvage coins were to/did take? Yes they Did. They know Coinbase Laundered a lot of Verns (Our) Coins. They are going after Coinbase, Part II of the Lawsuits. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/florida/flsdce/9:2016cv81992/497843/36/Honestly, I don't think much is gonna come of it. Coinbase has become a big powerful player in the crypto theater with a lot of crypto funds sloshing around and I'm sure they most likely have a top notch legal team at the ready to defend and liigate this thing for many moons to come. Then again its crypto and yeah, nothing surprises me anymore in this space. (wonder if they pay the lawyers in bitcoin? ) I disagree. Coinbase is supposedly following fincen rules. They obviously broke the rules so it becomes a matter of time to see what they settle for. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/florida/flsdce/9:2016cv81992/497843/36/The Judge already ditched Arbitration. OK, fair enough, however I'm actually not familiar with the actual evidence of Coinbase "obviously breaking the rules". So serious question... can you enlighten me? I'm quite curious to know how you think this is gonna play out as you seem to be knowledgeable in the legal matters,links etc. Thanx. I'm pretty sure that the astute lawyers wouldn't have pursued the case if they felt that they didn't have a case. Recall, Paul Vernon first used Coinbase to liquidate bitcoins for his million-dollar-plus loan supposedly prior to the hack, then preceded to liquidate millions of dollars worth of bitcoins to his personal and business bank accounts thereafter. Surely, Coinbase should've known that something was amiss, i.e. knowing that Cryptsy would in effect be bone dry, and that's not even them knowing about the hacked(?) coins leaving the platform. Bottomline, Coinbase should've at least notified the authorities that mega millions was moved but didn't. TBC, I've have no real issues with Coinbase, just relaying what I believe to be true till proven incorrect on my assessment. Coinbase has always been good to me since beta idk i still think the POM thread is key theory to where the keys disappeared!! lol
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September 12, 2017, 12:53:26 PM |
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can anyone give me some advice, BigVern/cryptsy said that the servers where " wiped" now i checked my wallet in the blockchain and found out my digibyte coins were transferred after the so called wipe, they were transferred a few times and are now located on the Poloniex servers
is there any change i can make a lawsuit against poloniex, demanding my coins back, i have evidence, besides that these are stolen coins
please let me know thanks
So, heres the thing with that... How do you know it wasnt the lawyer moving the funds to be liquidated for the overall sum of monies collected? If the law office took and moved the coins to poloniex they are not stolen, and are being sold for cash to pay off all the creditors. Talk to silverman law office and see what they can tell you about those coins. I can say tho even if they recovered them, you will not get them back yourself. Too many people lost coins, and if they were recovered they would be sold and the money added to the general fund. Didn't Silvers/Silverman publicly disclose which route the salvage coins were to/did take? Yes they Did. They know Coinbase Laundered a lot of Verns (Our) Coins. They are going after Coinbase, Part II of the Lawsuits. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/florida/flsdce/9:2016cv81992/497843/36/Honestly, I don't think much is gonna come of it. Coinbase has become a big powerful player in the crypto theater with a lot of crypto funds sloshing around and I'm sure they most likely have a top notch legal team at the ready to defend and liigate this thing for many moons to come. Then again its crypto and yeah, nothing surprises me anymore in this space. (wonder if they pay the lawyers in bitcoin? ) I disagree. Coinbase is supposedly following fincen rules. They obviously broke the rules so it becomes a matter of time to see what they settle for. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/florida/flsdce/9:2016cv81992/497843/36/The Judge already ditched Arbitration. OK, fair enough, however I'm actually not familiar with the actual evidence of Coinbase "obviously breaking the rules". So serious question... can you enlighten me? I'm quite curious to know how you think this is gonna play out as you seem to be knowledgeable in the legal matters,links etc. Thanx. I'm pretty sure that the astute lawyers wouldn't have pursued the case if they felt that they didn't have a case. Recall, Paul Vernon first used Coinbase to liquidate bitcoins for his million-dollar-plus loan supposedly prior to the hack, then preceded to liquidate millions of dollars worth of bitcoins to his personal and business bank accounts thereafter. Surely, Coinbase should've known that something was amiss, i.e. knowing that Cryptsy would in effect be bone dry, and that's not even them knowing about the hacked(?) coins leaving the platform. Bottomline, Coinbase should've at least notified the authorities that mega millions was moved but didn't. TBC, I've have no real issues with Coinbase, just relaying what I believe to be true till proven incorrect on my assessment. At the end of the day, the lawyers will do what lawyers do... go after more money. It costs very little at the end of the day to file paperwork to try to get more money out of another party. They can have an intern draw it up, file it and hope for the best. What is the lawyer out if it gets bounced? But the windfall of 30% or more of any award is well worth the output in this case.
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can anyone give me some advice, BigVern/cryptsy said that the servers where " wiped" now i checked my wallet in the blockchain and found out my digibyte coins were transferred after the so called wipe, they were transferred a few times and are now located on the Poloniex servers
is there any change i can make a lawsuit against poloniex, demanding my coins back, i have evidence, besides that these are stolen coins
please let me know thanks
So, heres the thing with that... How do you know it wasnt the lawyer moving the funds to be liquidated for the overall sum of monies collected? If the law office took and moved the coins to poloniex they are not stolen, and are being sold for cash to pay off all the creditors. Talk to silverman law office and see what they can tell you about those coins. I can say tho even if they recovered them, you will not get them back yourself. Too many people lost coins, and if they were recovered they would be sold and the money added to the general fund. Didn't Silvers/Silverman publicly disclose which route the salvage coins were to/did take? Yes they Did. They know Coinbase Laundered a lot of Verns (Our) Coins. They are going after Coinbase, Part II of the Lawsuits. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/florida/flsdce/9:2016cv81992/497843/36/Honestly, I don't think much is gonna come of it. Coinbase has become a big powerful player in the crypto theater with a lot of crypto funds sloshing around and I'm sure they most likely have a top notch legal team at the ready to defend and liigate this thing for many moons to come. Then again its crypto and yeah, nothing surprises me anymore in this space. (wonder if they pay the lawyers in bitcoin? ) I disagree. Coinbase is supposedly following fincen rules. They obviously broke the rules so it becomes a matter of time to see what they settle for. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/florida/flsdce/9:2016cv81992/497843/36/The Judge already ditched Arbitration. OK, fair enough, however I'm actually not familiar with the actual evidence of Coinbase "obviously breaking the rules". So serious question... can you enlighten me? I'm quite curious to know how you think this is gonna play out as you seem to be knowledgeable in the legal matters,links etc. Thanx. I'm pretty sure that the astute lawyers wouldn't have pursued the case if they felt that they didn't have a case. Recall, Paul Vernon first used Coinbase to liquidate bitcoins for his million-dollar-plus loan supposedly prior to the hack, then preceded to liquidate millions of dollars worth of bitcoins to his personal and business bank accounts thereafter. Surely, Coinbase should've known that something was amiss, i.e. knowing that Cryptsy would in effect be bone dry, and that's not even them knowing about the hacked(?) coins leaving the platform. Bottomline, Coinbase should've at least notified the authorities that mega millions was moved but didn't. TBC, I've have no real issues with Coinbase, just relaying what I believe to be true till proven incorrect on my assessment. At the end of the day, the lawyers will do what lawyers do... go after more money. It costs very little at the end of the day to file paperwork to try to get more money out of another party. They can have an intern draw it up, file it and hope for the best. What is the lawyer out if it gets bounced? But the windfall of 30% or more of any award is well worth the output in this case. But if the suit gains traction and has hopes of winning, then the lawyers are fucked - they'll have to put in a couple hours a day of real work. "I became a lawyer because I hate to work! WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN BY I NOW HAVE TO PUT IN A COUPLE HOURS A DAY ON THIS MEASLY CRYPTO CASE? All we have to do is get Coinbase on the stand and make them blurt out CUP MY BALLS! Or is that a different case? I think I'm drunk."
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