CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[Gleb Gamow]

Since I'm being honest I might as well get it all out.

I've seen the stuff you dug up on Marshall Long and it shut me up cause it looks really bad but on a personal level I'm
Gonna take the personal risk of endorsing the guy anyway.  This might end up hurting me later but I like and respect very few people in crypto and Marshall is one of them so I feel guilty not standing up for him.

I don't give a shit about all the allegations - even though they look really bad, I worked [briefly] with Marshall and he blew me away.  I'd pay big money [if I had it] to have that guy on my team.  I'd back him any day if it ever mattered.  

That's the truth.  That's how I feel about that.  

This is gonna come as a shock to you, but I'm leaning heavily toward believing you, and have no qualms with you being in Marshall's camp (so to speak) in spite of my strong convictions.

Taxing my memory, I think I pushed you (for lack of a better term) before, but backed off because I felt you were/are a relatively good guy.

Your last two posts (quoting the second one below for prosperity in case you go rogue  ) came across as sincere even when you take away the good words directed toward me, of which thanks, BTW.

With that outta the way, there's another name I've connected to ethought, namely Lucas Tulloch along with his kin, perhaps, Carlos Tulloch (Carlo Tulloch on his passport) who may still be in Cambodia.

Later, Vlad, and thanks for setting the record straight [once again].

AHHHHHHHHHHH, by old bud, Ahmed. You guys remember Ahmed, don't you. He's the dude who published the same exact CV as that other serial liar Marshall Long who was mining bitcoins with Leroy Fodor in 2009.

@ Vlad: At this penning I'm not tryin' to connect you to coinexchange.io, but surely you had to be versed as to who was behind DGC who now operates coinexhange.io, no?

It was by happenstance I found that BitcoinTalk is hosted by coinexchange.io's partner in Romandia (hosting site, not the dude - he's in California, NV, Canada, etc. depending on how the fishing is I guess).

Since cryptsy robbed me of all my coins (left me with about 8 btc out of hundreds) I do little research on any coins.  I had no idea DGC had any drama after Baritus left and I assumed their investors were legit.  This is all news to me.

And my comment where I said "this is an important piece of the puzzle" I wasn't endorsing coinexchange.io, I was referring to their online wallet cause IXC badly needed one and I thought I could get them to fund it.  Other than that I was simply letting the community know about the exchange at a time when IXC couldn't get listed anywhere.

Gleb, I think you and Spoetnik are legit and are doing a thankless job - and I respect you guys for that.

Let me tell you that I ain't done jack shit scammy stuff in crypto - my rep and IXC were too valuable to sell out for any money.  Garza offered me $32k to make a single and legal statement about the paycoin bamebrand (after I took over that project) and I refused simply on principle cause I felt it was a community brand and not any lead dev's right, and let me tell you, it was just days after I lost everything, I didn't even have a car, any money or a place to live.  

Few people in crypto would show that kind of convictions so it really pisses me off when I see shitheads like Hippie Tech vomitting lies.  And that "leaked Garza" email came from another source that hacked me but I let it go.  You guys dig all you want - I've always taken the hit for the small guy and passed up big money to keep a good rep.  

And no, garza was not an obvious scammer from day one.  I thought he was just irresponsible and a power tripper.  He had legit backers and was involved with legit exchanges and sponsoring big legit events.  

You and Spoetnik don't bother me at all cause I know you're looking for the truth, the other guys can suck my big dick 43 times.  Gotta top your 42.  Haha.

Rock on, brothers!!!

[Gleb Gamow]

As I've alluded to above, I'm beginning to think that Richard Kwan and Lucas Tulloch (aka ethought) is the same guy.

http://web.archive.org/web/20041127130645/http://www.ethought.com.au/

http://www.business.com.au/ethought-australia/

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&q=%22PO+BOX+205%2C+Unley+BC%22&oq=%22PO+BOX+205%2C+Unley+BC%22&gs_l=serp.3..35i39k1.2839.5478.0.5792.2.2.0.0.0.0.184.344.0j2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..0.1.184.QmHIsK81NLk

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Are they equal partners in this, or is Markus just working for hire for Fyrstikken?

not that it matters - as long as the development goes on ...

but i would think when the devs come out and let us know whats happening - maybe we will know what to expect as well ...

time - thats all ... they are probably busy with work and their own lives at the moment ...

...

#crysx

After taking BTC from investors the least they could do is drop in to the thread now and then and let us know what is going on.

agreed ...

#crysx

chrysophylax and ethought are both from Adelaide.

[TheCableGuy]

Can anyone cliff note? Did cryptsy scam?

[Gleb Gamow]

Can anyone cliff note? Did cryptsy scam?

"Though this be madness, yet there is method in't."

<insert image of dude with skull here>

[TheCableGuy]

Can anyone cliff note? Did cryptsy scam?

"Though this be madness, yet there is method in't."

Sounds about right

[AvY Enterprises]

Welcome to the club, CableGuy. Your coins be gone matey

[Phildo]

AHHHHHHHHHHH, by old bud, Ahmed. You guys remember Ahmed, don't you. He's the dude who published the same exact CV as that other serial liar Marshall Long who was mining bitcoins with Leroy Fodor in 2009.

@ Vlad: At this penning I'm not tryin' to connect you to coinexchange.io, but surely you had to be versed as to who was behind DGC who now operates coinexhange.io, no?

It was by happenstance I found that BitcoinTalk is hosted by coinexchange.io's partner in Romandia (hosting site, not the dude - he's in California, NV, Canada, etc. depending on how the fishing is I guess).

Since cryptsy robbed me of all my coins (left me with about 8 btc out of hundreds) I do little research on any coins.  I had no idea DGC had any drama after Baritus left and I assumed their investors were legit.  This is all news to me.

And my comment where I said "this is an important piece of the puzzle" I wasn't endorsing coinexchange.io, I was referring to their online wallet cause IXC badly needed one and I thought I could get them to fund it.  Other than that I was simply letting the community know about the exchange at a time when IXC couldn't get listed anywhere.

Gleb, I think you and Spoetnik are legit and are doing a thankless job - and I respect you guys for that.

Let me tell you that I ain't done jack shit scammy stuff in crypto - my rep and IXC were too valuable to sell out for any money.  Garza offered me $32k to make a single and legal statement about the paycoin bamebrand (after I took over that project) and I refused simply on principle cause I felt it was a community brand and not any lead dev's right, and let me tell you, it was just days after I lost everything, I didn't even have a car, any money or a place to live. 

Few people in crypto would show that kind of convictions so it really pisses me off when I see shitheads like Hippie Tech vomitting lies.  And that "leaked Garza" email came from another source that hacked me but I let it go.  You guys dig all you want - I've always taken the hit for the small guy and passed up big money to keep a good rep. 

And no, garza was not an obvious scammer from day one.  I thought he was just irresponsible and a power tripper.  He had legit backers and was involved with legit exchanges and sponsoring big legit events. 

You and Spoetnik don't bother me at all cause I know you're looking for the truth, the other guys can suck my big dick 43 times.  Gotta top your 42.  Haha.

Rock on, brothers!!!

Garza WAS an obvious scammer from day 1 because he was claiming to mine altcoins and unable to prove it using blockchains.

Just like Cryptsy was obviously insolvent because they couldn't allow people to withdraw their coins.

It's ok that you got ripped off, but refusing to admit your mistakes will not help you learn to avoid that situation in the future.

[CC-Resurgam]

Garza WAS an obvious scammer from day 1 because he was claiming to mine altcoins and unable to prove it using blockchains.

Who is garza ive never heard of that till now.

[RoomBot]

Garza WAS an obvious scammer from day 1 because he was claiming to mine altcoins and unable to prove it using blockchains.

Who is garza ive never heard of that till now.

Homero "Josh" Garza: CEO of GAWMiners & ZenMiner; Self-proclaimed "Hash King" and Paycoin Mad-genius, (not a Dev) / Hashlet Ponzi $20m scammer.

He sold / gave / coerced Cryptsy into running one of their hyper-staking Paycoin (XPY) "Prime Controllers" so Craptsy was complicit too.

Do a simple search on BCT for GAWMiners or Garza and the topics that come up will open your eyes!

 
 

[Gleb Gamow]

Garza WAS an obvious scammer from day 1 because he was claiming to mine altcoins and unable to prove it using blockchains.

Who is garza ive never heard of that till now.

Homero "Josh" Garza: CEO of GAWMiners & ZenMiner; Self-proclaimed "Hash King" and Paycoin Mad-genius, (not a Dev) / Hashlet Ponzi $20m scammer.

He sold / gave / coerced Cryptsy into running one of their hyper-staking Paycoin (XPY) "Prime Controllers" so Craptsy was complicit too.

Do a simple search on BCT for GAWMiners or Garza and the topics that come up will open your eyes!

 
 

Tomorrow's lesson will be on Mark Karpeles with the final exam centered around some dude named Satoshi Nakamoto. Now, time for a pop quiz: Who are Leroy Fodor, Michael Zinck and Chantha Owen Lueung? Bonus question: Who or what eats cigarette butts?

Humor aside, the name Baritus just appeared on my radar for the first time a few posts up, CC-.

[TheCableGuy]

430 pages, can someone please tell me if they scammed?

[Gleb Gamow]

430 pages, can someone please tell me if they scammed?

They scammed! It was verified on page 429, which up to then was still hope.

[Spoetnik]

I thought BitJohn said here on this topic they never got a controller for PayCoin.

Did they scam ?
I would have to say yes.

It's a bit complicated to explain it all evidence wise but the provable obvious parts are enough.

Such as them admitting they were "hacked" and their behavior from the claimed hack date
vs the duration they stayed open silent about it.

It to me is the equivalent of a major bank coming out an saying..
Oh hey shit world, sorry we forgot to lock the vault and the front door and we were cleared out.

BitJohn for example among others there had stated their security practices were pretty much bullet proof.
Cold storage etc etc..

Now what we were told was that a malicious update was added to a coin hosted on Github.
And the "Wallet Guy" who mysteriously vanished responsible for the adding and maintenance of "Daemons" for Cryptsy apparently said he simply downloaded a pre-compiled binary of the virus wallet.
When his job was compiling them.. AND CHECKING THE CODE.
And apparently they HAD to have been lying about cold storage because.. the coins were stolen  

And Vern bought himself a million dollar mansion AFTER he later said he was hacked.
If you knew you were hacked and the bank vault was emptied why would you do that ?

The more you frame it all and put it into context their story just seems like silly bullshit.

YEAH "they" stole the money = SCAMMERS (Vern cold not have done this on his own)

I am willing to bet Mullick and JShock were well aware of the scam operation.
It would have been impossible for the higher up guys to do the tech support with out seeing 12 million in coins gone

THEN !
We found out that BigVern & JShock already had a loooooong bad history BEFORE Cryptsy.
What ?
A porn advertising company where they pretend to be customers of it etc.
And a Penny auction site called "Foopile" where there is a track record of customers claiming they were ripped off.

I am probably forgetting about some of it so feel free to fill in the blanks guys  

[RoomBot]

....It took them over a year to "report" the "hack."

Yeah, right.

[Gleb Gamow]

THEN !
We found out that BigVern & JShock already had a loooooong bad history BEFORE Cryptsy.
What ?
A porn advertising company where they pretend to be customers of it etc.
And a Penny auction site called "Foopile" where there is a track record of customers claiming they were ripped off.

I am probably forgetting about some of it so feel free to fill in the blanks guys

I'm willing to bet that the dude who uncovered most of the above and then some is a serial goat fucker.  

[Spoetnik]

@RoomBot
That was the ONE thing i wanted to mention that i couldn't remember ranting away..

BigVern had said he had no idea who to report the hack to when it came to the Police etc.
yet another staffer admitted that they were in fact on a regular basis..
Locking out misc users and handing over their data to Fed's giving them fake excuses like Network problems.
So...
I have said before ..who do you tell (about the hack) ?
The same fucking people you are ratting out your customers too.  
(Like Coinbase admitted to doing with KickAssTorrents)

Like, ya uhhhh we're working with the FBI all the time eh..
Ya uhhhh they call us all the time asking us for user info... and WE GIVE IT TO THEM.
But during the phone calls we had with them uhhhh.. we forget to say hey.. we were robbed of all our money.
All 12+ million dollars of it.

Don't worry guys rest assured the Security team came here and said they were hot on the trail and they were going to investigate !
..said Horus who now ignores all of this nasty Cryptsy drama and sits on Polo STILL enjoying his Crypto trade while the rest of you are pennyless.. FOOpennyless !

And rest assured the leader BigVern offered a bounty to get back the stolen funds..
You just have to track him down to collect.. 
Last we heard DCGirl was talking to him on the phone in China 6 months ago.
So ask her where he went now.

Or just wait for the guy who exposed their Porn / Auction shenanigans to find out where he went..
I hear he likes to fuck Goats but i can look the other way with all the good work he's done to expose them !

So Gleb Gamow how is that lawsuit going ? (defamation)
Horus + JShock threatened to sue you and I and then...
Horus is busy making "trades" at Poloniex now and JSHock was last seen being a shill for Leroy Fodor and his latest POS coin take over for the scam site Stakeminers.. via Social Media.
Which is pretty damn funny considering we seen Michael Wilterdink + Leroy Fodor defending them far harder than even the staff themselves were during all the year long drama and coincidentally they 2 were the first 2 users over at Cryptsy China which they denied.. then later back tracked and admitted to creating after Cryptsy USA went belly up.
Kinda makes you wonder why there is such a close connection between CyberPinoy and Terrik + Cryptsy.

Ya..
We had nothing to do with setting up Cryptsy China they said..
Then JSHock slips up and says BigVern was in China at the exact time it was launching.
Then perma bans guys that asked if he was back yet the very next day on Cryptsy Chat.
Then.. we seen users report the web site code was virtually identical going so far as to using the same Google ad sense embedded tracking ID in the Chinese chatbox.
Then.. we seen "Project Investors" were the ones that registered the domain for the web site..

So, at that point JShock said.. well we might have sold them some "scripts"
What he doesn't know ? right
Uhhhh if you were going to sell some guy some "scripts" why would you register their new exchange domain name under your own company name ?

Oh and then there was reports in the forum of users going through the same exact problems as users were facing on Cryptsy.. missing coins and no response from support.
One guy came here and showed us his entire chat history with support where they said "check back later" copied and pasted over and over for ages.. after he deposited some NMC coins at Cryptsy China Bitebe9.com
And what did it say at the end of every support message ?
"Thanks for using Cryptsy"

But yeah they.. wee denying it uhhh uhhh duh derpty derp "We don't know what you are talking about"
Oh really fuckers ?
People don't you think if some other exchange had popped up that looked the same and still had the words Cryptsy plastered all over it inside out.. don't you all think they would be flipping out threatening to sue rampaging all pissed off that they were copied etc ?
Kinda funny bitebe9.com popped up and they had NO PROBLEM with it at all..
Not even when their support system said "Thanks for using Cryptsy"

Note: their Chinese exchange flopped and they shut it down and BigVern claimed to be getting divorced.
Maybe that's why he had to spent money on a mansion ? even though he was broke in debt for millions.

They are all fucking scammy ass pieces of shit that deserve to be thrown in jail.
And i hope the Chinese catch them and put them into a Chinese jail LOL

Are they guilty ?

What the fuck do you think ?
Do you need to read 450 pages ? No just look at any one small aspect of any of this.

hey JShock.. blow me you fucking goof.
I am enjoying my 1 year chat-ban prick HAHAHHAH
Better yet phone Vern so he can have DCGirl do that for you


Next Crypto-Lesson is on Alex Green + MINTPAL

[Gleb Gamow]

Next Crypto-Lesson is on Alex Green + MINTPAL

Did you barrow or steal my Lesson thingy that I use to school Owen over on his Crypto-city thread? 

[mymenace]

@RoomBot
That was the ONE thing i wanted to mention that i couldn't remember ranting away..

BigVern had said he had no idea who to report the hack to when it came to the Police etc.
yet another staffer admitted that they were in fact on a regular basis..
Locking out misc users and handing over their data to Fed's giving them fake excuses like Network problems.
So...
I have said before ..who do you tell (about the hack) ?
The same fucking people you are ratting out your customers too.  
(Like Coinbase admitted to doing with KickAssTorrents)

Like, ya uhhhh we're working with the FBI all the time eh..
Ya uhhhh they call us all the time asking us for user info... and WE GIVE IT TO THEM.
But during the phone calls we had with them uhhhh.. we forget to say hey.. we were robbed of all our money.
All 12+ million dollars of it.

Don't worry guys rest assured the Security team came here and said they were hot on the trail and they were going to investigate !
..said Horus who now ignores all of this nasty Cryptsy drama and sits on Polo STILL enjoying his Crypto trade while the rest of you are pennyless.. FOOpennyless !

And rest assured the leader BigVern offered a bounty to get back the stolen funds..
You just have to track him down to collect..  
Last we heard DCGirl was talking to him on the phone in China 6 months ago.
So ask her where he went now.

Or just wait for the guy who exposed their Porn / Auction shenanigans to find out where he went..
I hear he likes to fuck Goats but i can look the other way with all the good work he's done to expose them !

So Gleb Gamow how is that lawsuit going ? (defamation)
Horus + JShock threatened to sue you and I and then...
Horus is busy making "trades" at Poloniex now and JSHock was last seen being a shill for Leroy Fodor and his latest POS coin take over for the scam site Stakeminers.. via Social Media.
Which is pretty damn funny considering we seen Michael Wilterdink + Leroy Fodor defending them far harder than even the staff themselves were during all the year long drama and coincidentally they 2 were the first 2 users over at Cryptsy China which they denied.. then later back tracked and admitted to creating after Cryptsy USA went belly up.
Kinda makes you wonder why there is such a close connection between CyberPinoy and Terrik + Cryptsy.

I have heard of a group that has banded together from the cryptsy theft, very angry mob who are only after justice.

They love your work Spoetnik.

Feel sorry for the cryptsy mob, if they knew of anything in the cryptsy theft, RUN!

Run as fast as you can, what I have heard is not good and happening soon.

This is of course just speculation but these conversations had some very ominous rhetoric....

[TheCableGuy]

So can we file a class action lawsuit? I'm not really sure how that works.

[Gleb Gamow]

@RoomBot
That was the ONE thing i wanted to mention that i couldn't remember ranting away..

BigVern had said he had no idea who to report the hack to when it came to the Police etc.
yet another staffer admitted that they were in fact on a regular basis..
Locking out misc users and handing over their data to Fed's giving them fake excuses like Network problems.
So...
I have said before ..who do you tell (about the hack) ?
The same fucking people you are ratting out your customers too.  
(Like Coinbase admitted to doing with KickAssTorrents)

Like, ya uhhhh we're working with the FBI all the time eh..
Ya uhhhh they call us all the time asking us for user info... and WE GIVE IT TO THEM.
But during the phone calls we had with them uhhhh.. we forget to say hey.. we were robbed of all our money.
All 12+ million dollars of it.

Don't worry guys rest assured the Security team came here and said they were hot on the trail and they were going to investigate !
..said Horus who now ignores all of this nasty Cryptsy drama and sits on Polo STILL enjoying his Crypto trade while the rest of you are pennyless.. FOOpennyless !

And rest assured the leader BigVern offered a bounty to get back the stolen funds..
You just have to track him down to collect..  
Last we heard DCGirl was talking to him on the phone in China 6 months ago.
So ask her where he went now.

Or just wait for the guy who exposed their Porn / Auction shenanigans to find out where he went..
I hear he likes to fuck Goats but i can look the other way with all the good work he's done to expose them !

So Gleb Gamow how is that lawsuit going ? (defamation)
Horus + JShock threatened to sue you and I and then...
Horus is busy making "trades" at Poloniex now and JSHock was last seen being a shill for Leroy Fodor and his latest POS coin take over for the scam site Stakeminers.. via Social Media.
Which is pretty damn funny considering we seen Michael Wilterdink + Leroy Fodor defending them far harder than even the staff themselves were during all the year long drama and coincidentally they 2 were the first 2 users over at Cryptsy China which they denied.. then later back tracked and admitted to creating after Cryptsy USA went belly up.
Kinda makes you wonder why there is such a close connection between CyberPinoy and Terrik + Cryptsy.

I have heard of a group that has banded together from the cryptsy theft, very angry mob who are only after justice.

They love your work Spoetnik.

Feel sorry for the cryptsy mob, if they knew of anything in the cryptsy theft, RUN!

Run as fast as you can, what I have heard is not good and happening soon.

This is of course just speculation but these conversations had some very ominous rhetoric....

Swore to a quasi-NDA, I'll only say that I confirm the above.