CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[YuTü.Co.in]

 akin to civil asset forfeiture here in the US, then kick his pussy ass outta the country, perhaps sent to Mongolia to live in a yurt on a spread tending yaks.

and make him eat that yak bollocks stew them mongoloids prepare as a delicacy. they really do...
 i saw it on some show of a couple of bikers  "The Long Way Round" or some such thing.
one episode they hung out in yurts and feasted on  a stew of festering yak scrotum testicles. i shit you not...

anyway thought id share that ....

its on topic... aint it?  

edit...oh wait.. mighta been reindeer testicles ,but whatever...

Gobi Desert Oysters. Yummy!

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[Spoetnik]

It was BitJohn quoted on this topic before from years ago about the cold storage practices.
More than likely what he was told..

Vern is the one who should be doing the explaining here.
And his hiding from this does not look very good.

I just don't think it was started initially for scammy purposes.
But people run a business to make money obviously.
I think at some point Vern just wanted out and seen crypto in a long rut.
His level of guilt is questionable a bit.. But he is guilty of wrong doing for sure.

And I am not trying to be frugal about it either just saying 99% sure speculating from an outside perspective is not the same as being 100% sure.
I think Vern was the hacker most likely and he had Mullick help him with the Lucky7coin shenanigans.
It could have played out differently but that was my first thought when I heard about the hack.
Why would Mullick be running downloaded new shitcoin binaries?
When he said in the past he compiles them.
And that bit of hacked code was not in the coin on launch either..
It was a newer commit where that IRC code was added.
A lot of it doesn't seem right for the hacker story..
If Vern was infected why did he not state publicly what malware was installed on his network?
All known malware is identified by name.
And what security was he running?
The hack claim is monumentally vague..
I know because I had to fix people's computers who were infected for a living.

And it goes on and on..
Such as Vern claimed he did not know who to contact about it.
But BitJohn mentioned AML related requests on them..
Uhhh duh?
Any agency would redirect him to the FBI etc.
Had he made the call evidence could have been collected.. On his PC's.
And as the guy said earlier.. The other exchanges could have been alerted and money frozen etc.

So yeah best i can tell Vern and maybe others also were behind it.

What baffles me is the money never moved.
And will it?

No sane person would delete or lose the private keys.
I contend someone is deliberately avoiding touching them but could.

..just thinking out loud (in poem form) 

PS:
Cryptsy China..

[JollyGood]

It was BitJohn quoted on this topic before from years ago about the cold storage practices.
More than likely what he was told..

Vern is the one who should be doing the explaining here.
And his hiding from this does not look very good.

I just don't think it was started initially for scammy purposes.
But people run a business to make money obviously.
I think at some point Vern just wanted out and seen crypto in a long rut.
His level of guilt is questionable a bit.. But he is guilty of wrong doing for sure.

And I am not trying to be frugal about it either just saying 99% sure speculating from an outside perspective is not the same as being 100% sure.
I think Vern was the hacker most likely and he had Mullick help him with the Lucky7coin shenanigans.
It could have played out differently but that was my first thought when I heard about the hack.
Why would Mullick be running downloaded new shitcoin binaries?
When he said in the past he compiles them.
And that bit of hacked code was not in the coin on launch either..
It was a newer commit where that IRC code was added.
A lot of it doesn't seem right for the hacker story..
If Vern was infected why did he not state publicly what malware was installed on his network?
All known malware is identified by name.
And what security was he running?
The hack claim is monumentally vague..
I know because I had to fix people's computers who were infected for a living.

And it goes on and on..
Such as Vern claimed he did not know who to contact about it.
But BitJohn mentioned AML related requests on them..
Uhhh duh?
Any agency would redirect him to the FBI etc.
Had he made the call evidence could have been collected.. On his PC's.
And as the guy said earlier.. The other exchanges could have been alerted and money frozen etc.

So yeah best i can tell Vern and maybe others also were behind it.

What baffles me is the money never moved.
And will it?

No sane person would delete or lose the private keys.
I contend someone is deliberately avoiding touching them but could.

..just thinking out loud (in poem form) 

PS:
Cryptsy China..

Oh so to you it seems BitJohn asking for AML documents means it was a delay tactic on their part to steal money as a collective? (not stating a fact just asking for clarification if I correctly read what you wrote)
 

[spamsucks]

It was BitJohn quoted on this topic before from years ago about the cold storage practices.
More than likely what he was told..

Vern is the one who should be doing the explaining here.
And his hiding from this does not look very good.

I just don't think it was started initially for scammy purposes.
But people run a business to make money obviously.
I think at some point Vern just wanted out and seen crypto in a long rut.
His level of guilt is questionable a bit.. But he is guilty of wrong doing for sure.

And I am not trying to be frugal about it either just saying 99% sure speculating from an outside perspective is not the same as being 100% sure.
I think Vern was the hacker most likely and he had Mullick help him with the Lucky7coin shenanigans.
It could have played out differently but that was my first thought when I heard about the hack.
Why would Mullick be running downloaded new shitcoin binaries?
When he said in the past he compiles them.
And that bit of hacked code was not in the coin on launch either..
It was a newer commit where that IRC code was added.
A lot of it doesn't seem right for the hacker story..
If Vern was infected why did he not state publicly what malware was installed on his network?
All known malware is identified by name.
And what security was he running?
The hack claim is monumentally vague..
I know because I had to fix people's computers who were infected for a living.

And it goes on and on..
Such as Vern claimed he did not know who to contact about it.
But BitJohn mentioned AML related requests on them..
Uhhh duh?
Any agency would redirect him to the FBI etc.
Had he made the call evidence could have been collected.. On his PC's.
And as the guy said earlier.. The other exchanges could have been alerted and money frozen etc.

So yeah best i can tell Vern and maybe others also were behind it.

What baffles me is the money never moved.
And will it?

No sane person would delete or lose the private keys.
I contend someone is deliberately avoiding touching them but could.

..just thinking out loud (in poem form) 

PS:
Cryptsy China..

Oh so to you it seems BitJohn asking for AML documents means it was a delay tactic on their part to steal money as a collective? (not stating a fact just asking for clarification if I correctly read what you wrote)
 

Yes of course it was a stall tactic and added to the amount of data a corrupt company held. At the end, support was telling people to get their account to higher level to withdraw, knowing full well that would not work.
Ask yourself, why would they do this?

[JollyGood]

Yes of course it was a stall tactic and added to the amount of data a corrupt company held. At the end, support was telling people to get their account to higher level to withdraw, knowing full well that would not work.
Ask yourself, why would they do this?

I am very sad to read this about topping up wallets to withdraw technique... that is pure stealing and pure corruption IF that is what happened. I still feel that Horus_Cryptsy seems honest and very sad at what happened. As for the elusive Mullick and Logan blokes, I have no idea about their history. I am concerned though that this BitJohn bloke might not be all he seems and there might be something deeper he is not being honest with. I feel the dark side of the force within him.

So I take it no love lost between you and BitJohn then?

[irixo10]

Someone knows something if we will get the money in here

[JollyGood]

Someone knows something if we will get the money in here

The class action will result in a lot of the money going to the lawyers. Investors who registered in time will get peanuts and those that did not register in time will get diddly-squat

Only if the Pauldemort returns from China to face the music can he return ALL the investors money. That in itself will be hard not only because he has vanished but also because apparently (someone mentioned here) the database containing everything was deleted. So even if the Pauldemort becomes a born again Christian and repents, barring a miracle it will be near-on impossible for us all to get back what was stolen.

[YuTü.Co.in]

Someone knows something if we will get the money in here

The class action will result in a lot of the money going to the lawyers. Investors who registered in time will get peanuts and those that did not register in time will get diddly-squat

Only if the Pauldemort returns from China to face the music can he return ALL the investors money. That in itself will be hard not only because he has vanished but also because apparently (someone mentioned here) the database containing everything was deleted. So even if the Pauldemort becomes a born again Christian and repents, barring a miracle it will be near-on impossible for us all to get back what was stolen.

Since the database was deleted, how is it even humanly possible for the receiver et al. to determine which claims are valid? Surely, a multitude of bogus claims were submitted especially after it was revealed that the database no longer existed, allowing all kinds of photoshopping et al. to take place in most likly successful attempts to fool the receiver, ergo all valid claimants will eventually receive less than expected if no nefarious claims were approved. And, a bad actor receiver could just as easily submit his very own bogus claims upon viewing firsthand exactly what docs were submitted, gleaming only the most convincing ones to photoshop a seemingly valid claim(s), whereupon only the judge (no other oversight committee, etc.) would have to stamp their approval, a formality given that he or she's on the clock, wanting to get home as soon as possible after putting in a long day's work of donnin' a black robe.

Show me a righteous receiver, and I'll show you an almost two-inch long Lugan dick (three inches if it's hard - don't worry ladies, I make up for that shortcoming with my four-inch tongue and Trump-esque fingers   accompanying a little dirty talk).

[JollyGood]

I believe that a copy of the database exists, somewhere... Many socially awkward and socially inept individuals who happen to be thieves like to keep trophies of their victims.

I am sure the Pauldemort is having to graple with the dark side of the force. Soon he will "get jiggy wid it" and out of fear of going to hell will be forthcoming with returning the stolen money.

"Yes they may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one...."

[Spoetnik]

Yes of course it was a stall tactic and added to the amount of data a corrupt company held. At the end, support was telling people to get their account to higher level to withdraw, knowing full well that would not work.
Ask yourself, why would they do this?

I am very sad to read this about topping up wallets to withdraw technique... that is pure stealing and pure corruption IF that is what happened. I still feel that Horus_Cryptsy seems honest and very sad at what happened. As for the elusive Mullick and Logan blokes, I have no idea about their history. I am concerned though that this BitJohn bloke might not be all he seems and there might be something deeper he is not being honest with. I feel the dark side of the force within him.

So I take it no love lost between you and BitJohn then?

No idea how you got that from what I said..
And I quoted this because it's shorter.
You and many others are quote pigs.. Funny we were talking about this in meta.
You also seen me post a picture and have ever since tacked one on to almost all your posts.

Your behavior here is odd.
I can also guarantee you are fairly young
And I am skeptical you even used Cryptsy way back in the old days like you claimed.
If you did then I would not have to tell you who BJ is and give history lessons..

BitJohn stated he quite long ago and I created a topic on it.
So for a chunk of time he didn't even work there anymore.
So that that sort of ruins your weird little conspiracy.

What I was eluding to earlier is that BJ said they had to be US govt compliant.
If they had a request for a user's info they they would make up some shit to stall the user such as claiming network problems then hand over their info to the Fed's.

And that is standard across crypto too.
I warned you all that was going to happen loudly before it did.
I called it in 2013.

Later most exchanges now have a verified policy in effect.
And I told you why..
Ask Artem from KickAssTorrents why..

Unlike everyone else I refused to go along with the AML shit.
I stopped using Cryptsy and left.
You all handed over your ID like idiots.

I believe in crypto ideology.
You idiots "say" you do.. BIG fucking difference!

BitJohn left Cryptsy and had some scathing things to say about it..
Horus was still there crying FUD and muttering about lawsuits with JShock for another year or two..

BJ stated the obvious.
Something that has been under your nose all along..
Care?
Of course not.. As you all love to say "I need to get paid"
Ideaology sure as hell won't stand in your way.

Look around.. Damn near all the exchanges do AML shit.
Does anyone care?
Nope.. They are happy being govt compliant.
How else are you going to make money from shitcoins?

Me?

I don't.. Pretty simple.

Oh and neither does BJ because he quit a long time ago also.
You?


EDIT:
I agree with the Gamow too.. I was thinking that all along as well.

[JollyGood]

@ BitJohn have you been economical with the truth?

@Spoetnik - Chillax geezer. You can doubt all you like but I lost money on Cryptsy. If you do not trust that I lost money on Crytpsy no problem, there are many gringos here that trust me and believe me !

As for your comments about BitJohn, I drank two large cups of super-size me strong coffee and still could not decipher what you wrote but not problem. It now seems you say BitJohn is maybe good guy whereas Horus_Cryptsy and this JShock bloke spread the FUDdy WUDdy holding the fort in time for the Pauldemort to grab us all by the CAJONES before he left to find pastures and women new in China... I get it, just chillax  

[RoomBot]

Someone knows something if we will get the money in here

The class action will result in a lot of the money going to the lawyers. Investors who registered in time will get peanuts and those that did not register in time will get diddly-squat

Only if the Pauldemort returns from China to face the music can he return ALL the investors money. That in itself will be hard not only because he has vanished but also because apparently (someone mentioned here) the database containing everything was deleted. So even if the Pauldemort becomes a born again Christian and repents, barring a miracle it will be near-on impossible for us all to get back what was stolen.

Since the database was deleted, how is it even humanly possible for the receiver et al. to determine which claims are valid? Surely, a multitude of bogus claims were submitted especially after it was revealed that the database no longer existed, allowing all kinds of photoshopping et al. to take place in most likly successful attempts to fool the receiver, ergo all valid claimants will eventually receive less than expected if no nefarious claims were approved. And, a bad actor receiver could just as easily submit his very own bogus claims upon viewing firsthand exactly what docs were submitted, gleaming only the most convincing ones to photoshop a seemingly valid claim(s), whereupon only the judge (no other oversight committee, etc.) would have to stamp their approval, a formality given that he or she's on the clock, wanting to get home as soon as possible after putting in a long day's work of donnin' a black robe.

Show me a righteous receiver, and I'll show you an almost two-inch long Lugan dick (three inches if it's hard - don't worry ladies, I make up for that shortcoming with my four-inch tongue and Trump-esque fingers   accompanying a little dirty talk).

   Tiny Hands!

[JollyGood]

  Tiny Hands!

HAHA Classic!

Seriously though, this man is a disaster for the U S of A. Him becoming the President means bad news for us all.

Just a question, do you think The Donald knows where Pauldemort is?

[Gleb Gamow]

BitJohn stated he quite long ago and I created a topic on it.
So for a chunk of time he didn't even work there anymore.

BitJohn quit around the time when Paul's divorce was filed unbeknownst to us at the time - circa October 2014. November 2014, is when Cryptsy paid out very few coins from its exchange, unbeknownst to the Receiver, hence using Nov 1, 2014, as the date when C quit paying out, thus using the exchange rates on said date for the settling up process. Mid-February 2015, is when shit hit the fan and Cryptsy sealed its fate forever, four months after BJ left the building - 4 mos ≠ aeon.

Quasi-aside: I remember when Leroy Fodor used to mimic my poetic posting style. Speaking of, and prob not related, anybody else seen the new thread 'bout a tongue-in-cheek token soon to be released? Rumor has it that Visa is embracing the platform, perhaps McLovin' the dev for havin' a propensity to echo posts and posting styles of others up to and including linking to soundtracks when not speaking non-specifics just like my pal, Mr. "Forex" Fodor, used to espoused a stemmin' from his childish mind.

"I drool everytime I hear Pauldemort."

[JollyGood]

BitJohn quit around the time when Paul's divorce was filed unbeknownst to us at the time - circa October 2014. November 2014, is when Cryptsy paid out very few coins from its exchange, unbeknownst to the Receiver, hence using Nov 1, 2014, as the date when C quit paying out, thus using the exchange rates on said date for the settling up process. Mid-February 2015, is when shit hit the fan and Cryptsy

So let us get this straight...

The Pauldemort filed for divorce from the Wicked Witch of the West around the same time BitJohn left the company?

Where are Mulder and Scully when you need them

[RoomBot]

Tiny Hands!

HAHA Classic!

Seriously though, this man is a disaster for the U S of A. Him becoming the President means bad news for us all.

Just a question, do you think The Donald knows where Pauldemort is?

You know what?  We have NEVER seen Trumpf and Perv in the same place at the same time.....is it possible?

Trump is Paul Vernon!!!

[Gleb Gamow]

BitJohn quit around the time when Paul's divorce was filed unbeknownst to us at the time - circa October 2014. November 2014, is when Cryptsy paid out very few coins from its exchange, unbeknownst to the Receiver, hence using Nov 1, 2014, as the date when C quit paying out, thus using the exchange rates on said date for the settling up process. Mid-February 2015, is when shit hit the fan and Cryptsy

So let us get this straight...

The Pauldemort filed for divorce from the Wicked Witch of the West around the same time BitJohn left the company?

Where are Mulder and Scully when you need them

A repost from the past to get JG up to speed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14348441#msg14348441 _VVVVVV

I really love this pic. There are seven people depicted. Six are motherfuckin' thieves. Your job, if you choose to accept, is to identify the only honest dude.

• Black Dude
• Paul Vernon
• John Hammes aka BitJohn
• John MacPherson aka Horus <status recently updated, albeit gen. cons. at time was other>
• Nicholas Mullesch aka Mullick
• Logan
• Matt

This Black dude is Thierry Charlemagne - Lead Investigator on Cryptsy - he is this on the top right(People Also Viewed) picture of Nicholas Mullesch profile on LinkedIn

http://www.perfectleads.com/lead/6679398/cryptsy.com

Scroll down and you will see

WTF! I seriously thought all this time that he was just some common Cryptsy user. I guess his name needs to be added to my list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1414944

It's totally fuckin' amazing how Paul Vernon, a dude well versed in FinCen and sucked the dicks of 3-, 4- and 5-Star Army Generals while serving at Ft Hood, TX, and having on staff John MacPherson aka Horus, Nicholas P. Mullesch aka Mullick, and now Thierry Charlemagne, didn't have a fuckin' clue as to what agency to report an over U$10M heist, but signs a bogus contract with a complete unknown for the name of the person who done the crime while still not reporting to the authorities in spite of being informed myriad times as to what 3-LAs need to be informed.

/end quote ^{^^^^^^}

[JollyGood]

He's in luck if the other 50% of the job title consist of ball cupping.

HAHA.... Priceless posts from the past.

So this bloke "Thierry Charlemagne - Lead Investigator on Cryptsy" has nobody from these forums gotten hold of him to ask him what was going on? Sure the receivers and law enforcement must have questioned him but what does he have to say for himself? Does anyone know?

[sirazimuth]

holy shit! this thread has woken from the dead!
i'm surprised that hippie character hasn't chimed in yet with his quote clusterfuck
of conspiracy theories involving allenwashburn
which he posted like a billion times

[JollyGood]

Trump is Paul Vernon!!!

Trumpster and Pauldemort... it could be quantum physics where one piece of matter can occupy two spaces