CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[spamsucks]

This case really drives home how much law enforcement doesn't care about victims of cryptocurrency scams.

The judge ordered Vern to return the 11,325 BTC to Cryptsy customers. In today's money that's:

$130,000,000 in BTC
$20,000,000 in BCH
$3,000,000 in BTG

Notwithstanding all the other cryptocurrencies he stole and is living off right now, there's a court order for him to return crypto to the tune of $150MM.

He was a no-show in court, is somewhere in China (allegedly) on the run, and has not been heard from in 2 years. How the fuck is he not on Interpol and FBI wanted lists? Literally hundreds of millions of dollars stolen, but he's not on a wanted list somewhere. It's because that $150MM was in cryptocurrencies.

If you still hold funds on an exchange and you're not actively trading those funds, you stand to lose it all with no recourse. Get out of Bittrex, get out of Poloniex, and especially get out of Bitfinex.

The reason he is not on those lits is because... he might be. But at the end of the day, China and the US have no extradition treaty so if he was on that list, there is nothing anyone can do about it.
 

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[carlomagno]

Incredible situation.

From December should begin to repair part of the recovered funds

[Gleb Gamow]

Meanwhile, ...

https://blockchain.info/tx/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf

Amazing how a U$6.5M hack is now a U$180M hack AND CLIMBING!!! (no, I didn't make an error; the pic above is outdated)

[mymenace]

Meanwhile, ...

https://blockchain.info/tx/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf

Amazing how a U$6.5M hack is now a U$180M hack AND CLIMBING!!! (no, I didn't make an error; the pic above is outdated)

only good thing to come out of it, claim it back on tax

[mallocdotc]

The reason he is not on those lits is because... he might be. But at the end of the day, China and the US have no extradition treaty so if he was on that list, there is nothing anyone can do about it.
 

Whether or not he can be extradited from China shouldn't play into whether or not he's on one of those lists. He stole what's worth $200MM now in BTC and its subsequent forks alone. That doesn't include Dash, Monero, Eth, and all the shitcoins that have blown up since his exit scam.

The silver lining is that if he wasn't shitting himself after a $6MM heist, he'll be well and truly shitting himself with a $200MM heist. People will be looking for him soon and they won't be law enforcement.

[Gleb Gamow]

The reason he is not on those lits is because... he might be. But at the end of the day, China and the US have no extradition treaty so if he was on that list, there is nothing anyone can do about it.
 

Whether or not he can be extradited from China shouldn't play into whether or not he's on one of those lists. He stole what's worth $200MM now in BTC and its subsequent forks alone. That doesn't include Dash, Monero, Eth, and all the shitcoins that have blown up since his exit scam.

The silver lining is that if he wasn't shitting himself after a $6MM heist, he'll be well and truly shitting himself with a $200MM heist. People will be looking for him soon and they won't be law enforcement.

You means dudes with soft pillows and a comfy chair will be looking for Paul Vernon to exact U$200M from his scammy ass?

[mallocdotc]

You means dudes with soft pillows and a comfy chair will be looking for Paul Vernon to exact U$200M from his scammy ass?

I reckon so, and in total it's probably closer to $1Bn when you start looking at current alt values for known stolen wallets:

300,000 LTC x $200 = $60MM
450,000 DSH x $750 = $337MM
11,300 BCH x $1400 = $16MM

That's over $400MM alone, plus the $200MM BTC is $600MM. There was plenty more BTC stolen outside of that transaction too, so the market values are likely even higher.

Additional to that are a bunch of unknown amounts that have seen huge value increases: XMR, VTC, UNO, to name a few.

Unfortunately for victims, the class action that was supposed to support them went and sold off all the recovered wallets for peanuts too, resulting in huge loss of possible recovery funds in the process. Silver Law is claiming to be the go-to for Crypto scam class actions, but it's amateur hour over there.

The whole thing is a shimozzle.

I'm just glad the price was still low enough at the time that Vernon ran his exit scam for me to be able to buy back a good chunk of what I lost. It'd sure be a nice windfall to see those coins again though!

[mymenace]

You means dudes with soft pillows and a comfy chair will be looking for Paul Vernon to exact U$200M from his scammy ass?

I reckon so, and in total it's probably closer to $1Bn when you start looking at current alt values for known stolen wallets:

300,000 LTC x $200 = $60MM
450,000 DSH x $750 = $337MM
11,300 BCH x $1400 = $16MM

That's over $400MM alone, plus the $200MM BTC is $600MM. There was plenty more BTC stolen outside of that transaction too, so the market values are likely even higher.

Additional to that are a bunch of unknown amounts that have seen huge value increases: XMR, VTC, UNO, to name a few.

Unfortunately for victims, the class action that was supposed to support them went and sold off all the recovered wallets for peanuts too, resulting in huge loss of possible recovery funds in the process. Silver Law is claiming to be the go-to for Crypto scam class actions, but it's amateur hour over there.

The whole thing is a shimozzle.

I'm just glad the price was still low enough at the time that Vernon ran his exit scam for me to be able to buy back a good chunk of what I lost. It'd sure be a nice windfall to see those coins again though!

exactly right

they all watching wallets and transactions for the infamous hacker

and those dudes with soft pillows and a comfy chair who invested wisely are now sitting on millions

and they know from their armchair who exactly to contact and pay to retrieve their stolen funds or other types of payment

[spamsucks]

The reason he is not on those lits is because... he might be. But at the end of the day, China and the US have no extradition treaty so if he was on that list, there is nothing anyone can do about it.
 

Whether or not he can be extradited from China shouldn't play into whether or not he's on one of those lists. He stole what's worth $200MM now in BTC and its subsequent forks alone. That doesn't include Dash, Monero, Eth, and all the shitcoins that have blown up since his exit scam.

The silver lining is that if he wasn't shitting himself after a $6MM heist, he'll be well and truly shitting himself with a $200MM heist. People will be looking for him soon and they won't be law enforcement.

Do you REALLY think that people are gonna go track him down now to do him harm?

Please.


If anyone was gonna do it they would have a long time ago. The theft was officially reported at 10m. The value currently of the items stolen isnt important. As far as the feds are concerned (and they REALLY dont care)
it was a 10m dollar deal.

He got away with it, and thats all there is to it.

[Gleb Gamow]

The reason he is not on those lits is because... he might be. But at the end of the day, China and the US have no extradition treaty so if he was on that list, there is nothing anyone can do about it.
 

Whether or not he can be extradited from China shouldn't play into whether or not he's on one of those lists. He stole what's worth $200MM now in BTC and its subsequent forks alone. That doesn't include Dash, Monero, Eth, and all the shitcoins that have blown up since his exit scam.

The silver lining is that if he wasn't shitting himself after a $6MM heist, he'll be well and truly shitting himself with a $200MM heist. People will be looking for him soon and they won't be law enforcement.

Do you REALLY think that people are gonna go track him down now to do him harm?

Please.


If anyone was gonna do it they would have a long time ago. The theft was officially reported at 10m. The value currently of the items stolen isnt important. As far as the feds are concerned (and they REALLY dont care)
it was a 10m dollar deal.

He got away with it, and thats all there is to it.

You're right. The Feds aren't interested in putting an additional $200M in their coffer. What were we thinking?

[mymenace]

The reason he is not on those lits is because... he might be. But at the end of the day, China and the US have no extradition treaty so if he was on that list, there is nothing anyone can do about it.
 

Whether or not he can be extradited from China shouldn't play into whether or not he's on one of those lists. He stole what's worth $200MM now in BTC and its subsequent forks alone. That doesn't include Dash, Monero, Eth, and all the shitcoins that have blown up since his exit scam.

The silver lining is that if he wasn't shitting himself after a $6MM heist, he'll be well and truly shitting himself with a $200MM heist. People will be looking for him soon and they won't be law enforcement.

Do you REALLY think that people are gonna go track him down now to do him harm?

Please.


If anyone was gonna do it they would have a long time ago. The theft was officially reported at 10m. The value currently of the items stolen isnt important. As far as the feds are concerned (and they REALLY dont care)
it was a 10m dollar deal.

He got away with it, and thats all there is to it.

Do you REALLY think that people are gonna go track him down now to do him harm?  a resounding YES

Time ensures mistakes, people always make mistakes, reason it has not been done now (mistake one took cash, resolve issue more cash, issue resolved)

the more mistakes the easier the prey,

another mistake was just made so it is getting closer to that time

the fun will come when you start seeing all the cronies at crpytsy posting here, you will know then someone is coming

ignorance is not innocence

Remember a lot of people are still old school

..." do not f#$k with my money"....

[fakecryptsynagger]

Look at this shit guys

 
 Cryptsy points give away raid 


Cryptsy Points (POINTS) did not move on December 10-11
December 11, 2017 - By Nellie Frank

Cryptsy Points (POINTS) last traded at $0.50. According to Global Crypto Analysts, Cryptsy Points (POINTS) eyes $0.55 target on the road to $0.92. POINTS last traded at Cryptsy exchange. It had high of $0.50 and low of $0.50 for December 10-11. The open was $0.50.

Cryptsy Points (POINTS) is up 0.00% in the last 30 days from $0.00 (non existent) per coin. Its up 0.00% in the last 100 days since when traded at $0.00 (non existent) and the annual trend is up. 200 days ago POINTS traded at $0.00 (non existent). Cryptsy Points maximum coins available are . POINTS uses algorithm and proof type. It was started on 03/03/2014.




 
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[spamsucks]

The reason he is not on those lits is because... he might be. But at the end of the day, China and the US have no extradition treaty so if he was on that list, there is nothing anyone can do about it.
 

Whether or not he can be extradited from China shouldn't play into whether or not he's on one of those lists. He stole what's worth $200MM now in BTC and its subsequent forks alone. That doesn't include Dash, Monero, Eth, and all the shitcoins that have blown up since his exit scam.

The silver lining is that if he wasn't shitting himself after a $6MM heist, he'll be well and truly shitting himself with a $200MM heist. People will be looking for him soon and they won't be law enforcement.

Do you REALLY think that people are gonna go track him down now to do him harm?

Please.


If anyone was gonna do it they would have a long time ago. The theft was officially reported at 10m. The value currently of the items stolen isnt important. As far as the feds are concerned (and they REALLY dont care)
it was a 10m dollar deal.

He got away with it, and thats all there is to it.

You're right. The Feds aren't interested in putting an additional $200M in their coffer. What were we thinking?

It wouldnt be the feds money... hence they dont care. They kept all the botcoins from silkroad, and as far as I know they are still there

[spamsucks]

The reason he is not on those lits is because... he might be. But at the end of the day, China and the US have no extradition treaty so if he was on that list, there is nothing anyone can do about it.
 

Whether or not he can be extradited from China shouldn't play into whether or not he's on one of those lists. He stole what's worth $200MM now in BTC and its subsequent forks alone. That doesn't include Dash, Monero, Eth, and all the shitcoins that have blown up since his exit scam.

The silver lining is that if he wasn't shitting himself after a $6MM heist, he'll be well and truly shitting himself with a $200MM heist. People will be looking for him soon and they won't be law enforcement.

Do you REALLY think that people are gonna go track him down now to do him harm?

Please.


If anyone was gonna do it they would have a long time ago. The theft was officially reported at 10m. The value currently of the items stolen isnt important. As far as the feds are concerned (and they REALLY dont care)
it was a 10m dollar deal.

He got away with it, and thats all there is to it.

Do you REALLY think that people are gonna go track him down now to do him harm?  a resounding YES

Time ensures mistakes, people always make mistakes, reason it has not been done now (mistake one took cash, resolve issue more cash, issue resolved)

the more mistakes the easier the prey,

another mistake was just made so it is getting closer to that time

the fun will come when you start seeing all the cronies at crpytsy posting here, you will know then someone is coming

ignorance is not innocence

Remember a lot of people are still old school

..." do not f#$k with my money"....

Sorry, not buying it.

If they wanted him, they would have gone after his family and forced him out of hiding by now. They are not gonna sit back and wait a few years to go after it.

I dont doubt for a moment he would be simple with someone with resources to find. I mean, there are ex employees here that claim to know how to get ahold of him (or did for a while)
I am sure he is not that good at wheres waldo.


Dont get me wrong, I would love to see a video on liveleak someday of someone cutting off his nads and feeding them to him... I just dont think there is the interest in him.

UNLESS!!!

He gets coins out of that wallet that the cryptsy coins are stuck in. Then, all bets are off and they might go after him for that kinda cash... but so far there is nothing to suggest he has the keys as far as I know.

[Gleb Gamow]

The reason he is not on those lits is because... he might be. But at the end of the day, China and the US have no extradition treaty so if he was on that list, there is nothing anyone can do about it.
 

Whether or not he can be extradited from China shouldn't play into whether or not he's on one of those lists. He stole what's worth $200MM now in BTC and its subsequent forks alone. That doesn't include Dash, Monero, Eth, and all the shitcoins that have blown up since his exit scam.

The silver lining is that if he wasn't shitting himself after a $6MM heist, he'll be well and truly shitting himself with a $200MM heist. People will be looking for him soon and they won't be law enforcement.

Do you REALLY think that people are gonna go track him down now to do him harm?

Please.


If anyone was gonna do it they would have a long time ago. The theft was officially reported at 10m. The value currently of the items stolen isnt important. As far as the feds are concerned (and they REALLY dont care)
it was a 10m dollar deal.

He got away with it, and thats all there is to it.

You're right. The Feds aren't interested in putting an additional $200M in their coffer. What were we thinking?

It wouldnt be the feds money... hence they dont care. They kept all the botcoins from silkroad, and as far as I know they are still there

Au contraire ...

The $48.2 million total proceeds means the government sold the bitcoins for an average of $334. In retrospect, the sale appears to be a matter of bad timing for the government: the price of a bitcoin was as high as $1,000 at the end of 2013 before the digital currency went into a prolonged slump until mid-2016 when it began to soar. The current price is around $4,400—meaning the Justice Department would have made around $630 million had the sale taken place today.

Or ~$2.5B today.

[spamsucks]

The reason he is not on those lits is because... he might be. But at the end of the day, China and the US have no extradition treaty so if he was on that list, there is nothing anyone can do about it.
 

Whether or not he can be extradited from China shouldn't play into whether or not he's on one of those lists. He stole what's worth $200MM now in BTC and its subsequent forks alone. That doesn't include Dash, Monero, Eth, and all the shitcoins that have blown up since his exit scam.

The silver lining is that if he wasn't shitting himself after a $6MM heist, he'll be well and truly shitting himself with a $200MM heist. People will be looking for him soon and they won't be law enforcement.

Do you REALLY think that people are gonna go track him down now to do him harm?

Please.


If anyone was gonna do it they would have a long time ago. The theft was officially reported at 10m. The value currently of the items stolen isnt important. As far as the feds are concerned (and they REALLY dont care)
it was a 10m dollar deal.

He got away with it, and thats all there is to it.

You're right. The Feds aren't interested in putting an additional $200M in their coffer. What were we thinking?

It wouldnt be the feds money... hence they dont care. They kept all the botcoins from silkroad, and as far as I know they are still there

Au contraire ...

The $48.2 million total proceeds means the government sold the bitcoins for an average of $334. In retrospect, the sale appears to be a matter of bad timing for the government: the price of a bitcoin was as high as $1,000 at the end of 2013 before the digital currency went into a prolonged slump until mid-2016 when it began to soar. The current price is around $4,400—meaning the Justice Department would have made around $630 million had the sale taken place today.

Or ~$2.5B today.

But if they recovered the stolen cryptsy funds, they would have to be returned to the origional owners... they should not become property of the government.

Should.. Key term

[mallocdotc]

The reason he is not on those lits is because... he might be. But at the end of the day, China and the US have no extradition treaty so if he was on that list, there is nothing anyone can do about it.
 

Whether or not he can be extradited from China shouldn't play into whether or not he's on one of those lists. He stole what's worth $200MM now in BTC and its subsequent forks alone. That doesn't include Dash, Monero, Eth, and all the shitcoins that have blown up since his exit scam.

The silver lining is that if he wasn't shitting himself after a $6MM heist, he'll be well and truly shitting himself with a $200MM heist. People will be looking for him soon and they won't be law enforcement.

Do you REALLY think that people are gonna go track him down now to do him harm?

Please.


If anyone was gonna do it they would have a long time ago. The theft was officially reported at 10m. The value currently of the items stolen isnt important. As far as the feds are concerned (and they REALLY dont care)
it was a 10m dollar deal.

He got away with it, and thats all there is to it.

You're right. The Feds aren't interested in putting an additional $200M in their coffer. What were we thinking?

It wouldnt be the feds money... hence they dont care. They kept all the botcoins from silkroad, and as far as I know they are still there

Au contraire ...

The $48.2 million total proceeds means the government sold the bitcoins for an average of $334. In retrospect, the sale appears to be a matter of bad timing for the government: the price of a bitcoin was as high as $1,000 at the end of 2013 before the digital currency went into a prolonged slump until mid-2016 when it began to soar. The current price is around $4,400—meaning the Justice Department would have made around $630 million had the sale taken place today.

Or ~$2.5B today.

But if they recovered the stolen cryptsy funds, they would have to be returned to the origional owners... they should not become property of the government.

Should.. Key term

The only funds the judge ruled as belonging to the plaintiffs were the BTC in the key transaction. The US government have been otherwise proven to do what they want with their Civil Forfeiture laws.

There's no reason to assume they wouldn't wield that law to their advantage and take the following:

300,000 LTC x $400 = $120MM
450,000 DSH x $900 = $405MM
11,300 BCH x $1600 = $18MM

[spamsucks]

The reason he is not on those lits is because... he might be. But at the end of the day, China and the US have no extradition treaty so if he was on that list, there is nothing anyone can do about it.
 

Whether or not he can be extradited from China shouldn't play into whether or not he's on one of those lists. He stole what's worth $200MM now in BTC and its subsequent forks alone. That doesn't include Dash, Monero, Eth, and all the shitcoins that have blown up since his exit scam.

The silver lining is that if he wasn't shitting himself after a $6MM heist, he'll be well and truly shitting himself with a $200MM heist. People will be looking for him soon and they won't be law enforcement.

Do you REALLY think that people are gonna go track him down now to do him harm?

Please.


If anyone was gonna do it they would have a long time ago. The theft was officially reported at 10m. The value currently of the items stolen isnt important. As far as the feds are concerned (and they REALLY dont care)
it was a 10m dollar deal.

He got away with it, and thats all there is to it.

You're right. The Feds aren't interested in putting an additional $200M in their coffer. What were we thinking?

It wouldnt be the feds money... hence they dont care. They kept all the botcoins from silkroad, and as far as I know they are still there

Au contraire ...

The $48.2 million total proceeds means the government sold the bitcoins for an average of $334. In retrospect, the sale appears to be a matter of bad timing for the government: the price of a bitcoin was as high as $1,000 at the end of 2013 before the digital currency went into a prolonged slump until mid-2016 when it began to soar. The current price is around $4,400—meaning the Justice Department would have made around $630 million had the sale taken place today.

Or ~$2.5B today.

But if they recovered the stolen cryptsy funds, they would have to be returned to the origional owners... they should not become property of the government.

Should.. Key term

The only funds the judge ruled as belonging to the plaintiffs were the BTC in the key transaction. The US government have been otherwise proven to do what they want with their Civil Forfeiture laws.

There's no reason to assume they wouldn't wield that law to their advantage and take the following:

300,000 LTC x $400 = $120MM
450,000 DSH x $900 = $405MM
11,300 BCH x $1600 = $18MM

Do we know what happened to those coins? Like did they get dropped in a wallet and left as well or did he actually take those?

[RoomBot]

The reason he is not on those lits is because... he might be. But at the end of the day, China and the US have no extradition treaty so if he was on that list, there is nothing anyone can do about it.
 

Whether or not he can be extradited from China shouldn't play into whether or not he's on one of those lists. He stole what's worth $200MM now in BTC and its subsequent forks alone. That doesn't include Dash, Monero, Eth, and all the shitcoins that have blown up since his exit scam.

The silver lining is that if he wasn't shitting himself after a $6MM heist, he'll be well and truly shitting himself with a $200MM heist. People will be looking for him soon and they won't be law enforcement.

Do you REALLY think that people are gonna go track him down now to do him harm?

Please.


If anyone was gonna do it they would have a long time ago. The theft was officially reported at 10m. The value currently of the items stolen isnt important. As far as the feds are concerned (and they REALLY dont care)
it was a 10m dollar deal.

He got away with it, and thats all there is to it.

You're right. The Feds aren't interested in putting an additional $200M in their coffer. What were we thinking?

It wouldnt be the feds money... hence they dont care. They kept all the botcoins from silkroad, and as far as I know they are still there

Au contraire ...

The $48.2 million total proceeds means the government sold the bitcoins for an average of $334. In retrospect, the sale appears to be a matter of bad timing for the government: the price of a bitcoin was as high as $1,000 at the end of 2013 before the digital currency went into a prolonged slump until mid-2016 when it began to soar. The current price is around $4,400—meaning the Justice Department would have made around $630 million had the sale taken place today.

Or ~$2.5B today.

But if they recovered the stolen cryptsy funds, they would have to be returned to the origional owners... they should not become property of the government.

Should.. Key term

The only funds the judge ruled as belonging to the plaintiffs were the BTC in the key transaction. The US government have been otherwise proven to do what they want with their Civil Forfeiture laws.

There's no reason to assume they wouldn't wield that law to their advantage and take the following:

300,000 LTC x $400 = $120MM
450,000 DSH x $900 = $405MM
11,300 BCH x $1600 = $18MM

Noobie Savant.

Approved.

[REALbagholder010]

Hey, I need HELP!

I just noticed someone took my account here, Bagholder010 and starting typing crap about some Best IoT Platform Based on Blockchain!

WHY ME WT#$%?

How can I get it back as I have messages there from people here? When I click Help on top left page it doesn't show any button to contact forum admins about this.

EDIT :How can I contact an admin here?
Or can an admin contact me?