[ANN] Expanse (EXP) - 1st Stable fork of Ethereum (New Algo + PirlGuard)

[CryptoClub]

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First of all, seems like you don't understand that I am programmer.
Second, this contract proofs nothing.
Third, devs will control most of supply for many months therefore whole premine will be under their control.

Basically TECHNICALLY IT'S NOT POSSIBLE AT THIS MOMENT TO ACHIEVE GUARANTED COMMUNITY RESERVE YOU CLAIM TO CREATE.

It is technically possible to create contracts that release funds over time. I am not sure why you think that would be abused when everything will be public, and we are not anonymous and would be held accountable, but only a small amount will be available at a time and it won't be abused as that makes no sense, and would ruin the value of the developers funds that will be released over time as well. Your fears or FUD is misplaced, but if you have doubts just wait and see how it goes over time, and you can always mine or trade it later once you have enough proof to satisfy you. Obviously some people will never be happy, but why would we ruin a project that is funding us over a year? (or longer if the community votes for it later, or there is POS on our coins... and so on) We wouldn't do that, that makes no sense.

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[ocminer]

If you dont like it - dont mine it...  It's as simple as that

[abstractednerve]

If you dont like it - dont mine it...  It's as simple as that

that is pretty much what it boils down to m8

[8-bit-Party]

If you feel like I *cant* have enough proof for you then now is a good time for you to move on to something else. Since you are a programmer, start your own fork that embodies your desires.

Basically there's no proof at all. Also I have no need to embody anything here, I just believe that 90+ % premine has negative impact, also claiming that 90% of it goes community is false. Nothing else, I am here because I find this project very interesting.

[8-bit-Party]

It is technically possible to create contracts that release funds over time. I am not sure why you think that would be abused when everything will be public, and we are not anonymous and would be held accountable, but only a small amount will be available at a time and it won't be abused as that makes no sense, and would ruin the value of the developers funds that will be released over time as well. Your fears or FUD is misplaced, but if you have doubts just wait and see how it goes over time, and you can always mine or trade it later once you have enough proof to satisfy you. Obviously some people will never be happy, but why would we ruin a project that is funding us over a year? (or longer if the community votes for it later, or there is POS on our coins... and so on) We wouldn't do that, that makes no sense.

Who talk about an abuse or you being anon / scammers? It's just a matter or making math proofs not human proofs. Ethereum is a fresh wave in crypto world and you remind old premine crap from the past.

If you dont like it - dont mine it...  It's as simple as that

I don't think you should comment it this way. So many scams behind, right?

[GoldTiger69]

I guess we are gonna have to create a new account after the new genesis has released, right? the accounts from the testnet wont hold, right?

[8-bit-Party]

I guess we are gonna have to create a new account after the new genesis has released, right? the accounts from the testnet wont hold, right?

No, they will be fine.

[defaced]

I guess we are gonna have to create a new account after the new genesis has released, right? the accounts from the testnet wont hold, right?

accounts and everything hold, even your enode address, the only thing that changes is the chain. If you want to be super cautious you can run this cmd on linux.

Code:

rm -rf ~/.expanse/{chaindata,dapp,history}

[GoldTiger69]

I guess we are gonna have to create a new account after the new genesis has released, right? the accounts from the testnet wont hold, right?

accounts and everything hold, even your enode address, the only thing that changes is the chain. If you want to be super cautious you can run this cmd on linux.

Code:

rm -rf ~/.expanse/{chaindata,dapp,history}

And what happens to the "test" coins that are already in those accounts?

[therealbigcoin]

so howto start this?
Is there a new genesis block to download but same software as test-mining?
Where will the new genesis-block published too?

[jjjordan]

I guess we are gonna have to create a new account after the new genesis has released, right? the accounts from the testnet wont hold, right?

accounts and everything hold, even your enode address, the only thing that changes is the chain. If you want to be super cautious you can run this cmd on linux.

Code:

rm -rf ~/.expanse/{chaindata,dapp,history}

And what happens to the "test" coins that are already in those accounts?

They are not in the account per se...
They are in the network and are "unlockable" (being able to be sent) with your account's private key.
The new network will have different instance of your account's address and will be "unlockable" with the same account's private key.
Ergo - the account is the same (address and key), but the coins are different because it's a different network.
Analogy (loose):
The account's address is like a template - a plate with holes that lets you see certain amount of information.
If you put the template over a book page you will see some characters through the holes. If you point it at different page
characters will be different, but the template hasn't changed.

[defaced]

so howto start this?
Is there a new genesis block to download but same software as test-mining?
Where will the new genesis-block published too?

yes thats exactly, im writing easy to understand instructions

[proctologic]

so howto start this?
Is there a new genesis block to download but same software as test-mining?
Where will the new genesis-block published too?

get setup as first post u wait to new genesis block

[antonio8]

Pool is ready for pre-reg:

https://exp.suprnova.cc

I'll launch the pool approx 6-8 hours after coin launch, so there is plenty of time for you guys to solo and get the rigs etc. running

Ocminer

Can you launch pool at beginning?

There are still issues where some of us still can't connect and will not be able to solo mine.

No guarantee that issue will be fixed at launch.

[SpeedDemon13]

So, we have to create a new account after the launch? We can't use the one create via testnet? Will the new genesis block available slightly before launch or we have to wait until after the launch? Is the rpc port 9656 for the live network? Will you make etherwall GUI version compatible with EXP?

[defaced]

So, we have to create a new account after the launch? We can't use the one create via testnet? Will the new genesis block available slightly before launch or we have to wait until after the launch? Is the rpc port 9656 for the live network? Will you make etherwall GUI version compatible with EXP?

With the bat files you only have to run the genesis step. You dont have to create new accounts or anything.

[Hazcat]

How do we solo mine if we are using multiple computers?

Im presuming the address's aren't all going to be the same so?

I have the testnet working fine just dont know how to get it to mine the true coin when it launches?

[antho281]

What about Linux? Will we only have to run build/bin/gexp with another genesis file?

[DudeAtWork420]

will the .bat file be released here in the thread, or on the main (1) page?

[defaced]

How do we solo mine if we are using multiple computers?

Im presuming the address's aren't all going to be the same so?

I have the testnet working fine just dont know how to get it to mine the true coin when it launches?

Again, you will turn those nodes off,  then start them with the new genesis.

which means you wll run this cmd on linux

Code:

build/bin/gexp --genesis genesis.json