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Author Topic: GekkoScience Compac BM1384 Stickminer Official Support Thread  (Read 267687 times)
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November 12, 2016, 05:32:04 PM
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The current heat sinks of the Gekko, I think and I'm sorry for my offense, it's bad designed. It has vertical channels instead of horizontal ones to allows a correct air flow.

Most folks running more than a couple sticks always seem to be using powered hubs that the sticks plug into the top of. So, fin orientation make perfect sense for that.

Along that line -- If possible do not power any stick through an USB cable. The wires inside them, even in the new BC1.2 cables (for charging/linking to Tablets/phones, etc) the wire is barely thick enough to support 1.2A through a short cable. Plug directly into a powered hub if you are going to pull more than 500ma.

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November 14, 2016, 12:06:24 PM
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Maybe somebody did it, but I couldn't find any reply about it: Someone tried to use a big-ass heatsink with peltier cells? I want to know if we can set more than 500 Mhz per USB stick and how.

Hi MrKaizerSoze, that was me Wink.

I´ve used a big hookup cooler and made also a couple of experiments with peltier modules..



Finally I pushed it up to 450MHz and it works stable!

(Higher is possible, (475MHz works Cool!) but not long time stable.)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173963.msg14928411#msg14928411

But therfore you have to modify the vcore pot (standard version is limited by 0.8V max), to increase the vcore up to 0.9V (900mV) and higher..
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First, sorry for my bad english, is not my native language.

Thanks brother, but I can't see the peltier cell installed, can you please explain me how are you using it?

How did you increased the vcore voltage more than 0.8V? BTW, I saw the capacitor (I think is a 16000 uF, but I'm not sure)

Have you tried to set the frequency more than 500 MHz?

The piece you're using to fit the heatsink is pretty clever, what is it name and where can I find it?

Can you provide the noise level of the fan?

How long is the USB cable? Have you tried with a shorter one?


Hi MrKaizerSoze,
sorry for late response! Very busy last time...  Sad

@your english: never mind about that, ya are welcome mate Wink, it´s also NOT my native language Wink.

But back to the topic Smiley:

@Peltier:
here you can see my peltier element (the white square with red and black wire))
I´ve used it primary with my Antrouter R1 (same ASIC)



To reach the expected cooling effect (down to freeze temp), it´s nessessary, that you use a proper cooling at the other side of the peltier (because its driving very hot, w/o a cooler)

Here you can see some  tests:

The green Controller board youl´ll see in front regulates the peltier (depend of the temperature):



Here a closer view, there you´ll see the peltier working between Air-Cooler and the "Cooling side":



(The procedure to use it with a gekko is nearly the same  Smiley)


@your other questions:

Quote from: MrKaizerSoze
How did you increased the vcore voltage more than 0.8V? BTW, I saw the capacitor (I think is a 16000 uF, but I'm not sure)

the Vcore value is limited by the board design.
(If you want to increase the Vcore you have to remove and replace a resistor there.)

Whats to do:
The onboard 10k pot goes from ground in chain with a ~10k resistor to the TPS51219 voltage regulator.
all what you have to do is to remove the 10k res (seen on my pic below) and replace it with a 17k or 20k resistor



Finally it looks so:



Btw, Its very useful to put a Cooler on the backside from the TPS51219 voltage regulator (seen on the picture), because it´s running hot too.

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Have you tried to set the frequency more than 500 MHz?
I tried it, but it fails.
The Problem is the "Max Current" limit of the TPS51219 voltage regulator.
It provides not enough power resources.

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The piece you're using to fit the heatsink is pretty clever, what is it name and where can I find it?
It s a Silent Shark "HPD-815" from Evercool (dual copper/aluminium) with a fan "inside".
You´ll find it here:
http://www.evercool.com.tw/products/hpd-815.htm

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Can you provide the noise level of the fan?
Don´t know the accurate noise level, but its very moderate, usable in your living room.

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How long is the USB cable? Have you tried with a shorter one?
I´ve used my so called "Direct Injection" Smiley, that means, the Gekko got it´s power via direct on board soldered power connector (not via USB)
so the lenght of the USB cable is of second rank, but I used a 0,5m.



But for the perfect cable you´ll find lots of good suggestions from other members of this forum (preferred 0,3 meters short USB 3.0 cables)

So, thats for it, I think.

If any question, feel free to ask me.

Cheers,
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November 18, 2016, 07:32:43 PM
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Hey guys, its me again.

I've bought the plugable USB 2.0 7-Port Hub with BC 1.2, 60W and up to 1.5A per port.

I'm able to fire 2 gekkos on 250MHz and one of them with 300MHz (there are only one or two sticks recognized by cgmier, the rest is running in "Zombie"-mode and tries very often to hotplug (unsucessfully)) ...

So my question: Do I have to buy 2 plugables to run my 4 gekkos with 250MHz 24/7 ?

Thanks for your help!
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November 18, 2016, 07:38:11 PM
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Hey guys, its me again.

I've bought the plugable USB 2.0 7-Port Hub with BC 1.2, 60W and up to 1.5A per port.

I'm able to fire 2 gekkos on 250MHz and one of them with 300MHz (there are only one or two sticks recognized by cgmier, the rest is running in "Zombie"-mode and tries very often to hotplug (unsucessfully)) ...

So my question: Do I have to buy 2 plugables to run my 4 gekkos with 250MHz 24/7 ?

Thanks for your help!

three should run at 250. try different positions, for example 1, 3, 5 or 2, 4, 6, restart your pi or computer with all three in.
Are you using arctic for cooling? if not, use a regular fan blowing toward sticks.
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November 18, 2016, 09:01:05 PM
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Ok, I tried with different positions, but I got the same results. 2 of 3 are (sometimes) working. Mostly only 1 is working, sometimes none of them ...

Yes, I'm using the arctic fan (and it's operated by a rasp pi 3).
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November 18, 2016, 09:43:44 PM
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Got 6@300Mhs on a superbpag.

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November 18, 2016, 10:00:44 PM
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Got 6@300Mhs on a superbpag.

This one is not available in my country :/
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November 18, 2016, 10:15:42 PM
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Neither in mine...

When there's a will there's a way.

Got mine there:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1404243.msg14304103#msg14304103

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November 18, 2016, 10:17:13 PM
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Ok, I tried with different positions, but I got the same results. 2 of 3 are (sometimes) working. Mostly only 1 is working, sometimes none of them ...

Yes, I'm using the arctic fan (and it's operated by a rasp pi 3).

strange, they should work. Most likely nothing to do with the hub.
Did you adjust voltage with the tiny nob and measured it?
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November 18, 2016, 11:07:41 PM
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Yes, I did. They are all @0.79V
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November 18, 2016, 11:22:12 PM
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Yes, I did. They are all @0.79V

too high for both 250 and 300.
if "flat" at 5pm indicates about 800mv, try 2pm for 250 and 3pm for 300 (approximate).
I might remember incorrectly, but should be in the ballpark.
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November 19, 2016, 01:50:58 AM
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Ok, I changed it. But the results are the same: Only 1 of 3 is recognized.
I tried with Y-cables, too -> cgminer isn't detecting a single gekko with it.
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November 19, 2016, 04:18:37 AM
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Ok, I changed it. But the results are the same: Only 1 of 3 is recognized.
I tried with Y-cables, too -> cgminer isn't detecting a single gekko with it.

after you change your cable arrangement, you'll have to restart pi or computer, otherwise they would not start (at least in my case).
that, or there is something weird in your setup. i would start with just one and see if everything works fine.
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November 19, 2016, 07:09:46 AM
Last edit: November 19, 2016, 08:17:59 AM by raiding
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Yeah, I mostly "reboot" my pi physically after making changes and syncing the filesystem ...
May you can point me on something, I didn't think about (I'm a noob at least with advanced linux-skills).
Are there other "common mistakes" in setting up a raspberry pi based miner with gekkos?

edit: 1, 2 or all geekos at once it doesn't make a difference, when MHz > 150. They seem to work very randomly ...
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November 19, 2016, 08:21:05 AM
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don't plug your USB3 hub in the RPI.
use a USB2 hub as a bridge.

RPI -> USB2 hub -> USB3 Hub

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November 19, 2016, 08:52:53 AM
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don't plug your USB3 hub in the RPI.
use a USB2 hub as a bridge.

RPI -> USB2 hub -> USB3 Hub

Yes, you're right.
Sadly none of the raspberry-models has a build-in USB 3 ... I'm using only USB 2.0 hubs Wink
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November 19, 2016, 03:22:13 PM
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Which pool you are mining to? Some pools will disconnect you because of a small hashing speed.
Eligius was OK with my sticks.
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November 19, 2016, 05:33:16 PM
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I'm using solo.ckpool.org and de.ckpool.org as backup
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November 19, 2016, 05:57:21 PM
Last edit: November 19, 2016, 06:35:00 PM by Biodom
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I'm using solo.ckpool.org and de.ckpool.org as backup

I know that kano.is ckpool does not allow low hashing miners. He disconnects them.
EDIT: apparently, incorrect Not sure about solo, but it is run by the same two operators (kano and -ck), as far as I remember.
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November 19, 2016, 06:15:45 PM
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I'm using solo.ckpool.org and de.ckpool.org as backup

I know that kano.is ckpool does not allow low hashing miners. He disconnects them.
Not sure about solo, but it is run by the same two operators (kano and -ck), as far as I remember.
Per the info on their website their solo pool is geared to sticks and other very low yield miners for lottery mining.

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