do miners zip blocks when trying to propagate them?

[Kprawn]

Is the internet data exiting and entering China being filtered via Firewalls at data centers, where the cables join with the mainland? Is this why the internet speed within the

country is so low? Like working through a online proxy or VPN service? I saw a video once, where a Chinese guy were playing Starcraft and his response time was pretty fast.

His opponent was from the same country, but from a different location within China. I guess the Chinese have a point, when they complain about the West having the advantage

of unrestricted fast internet access, when they have to compete from their country, through these firewalls.      

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[adamstgBit]

Okay - thanks for the info - so SPV mining is not the same as the Relay Network?

So do we know exactly what software was being run by the pools that caused the fork?

IDK, a faulty SPV written by the chinese miners?

I once had to reverse engineer a piece of code written by chinese poeple, their code was unbelievable, pure spaghetti! goto's and all.

[CIYAM]

Is the internet data exiting and entering China being filtered via Firewalls at data centers, where the cables join with the mainland?

Slowed down rather than filtered at the lower levels (so even if you get past the firewall you are back in the 1990s).

Is this why the internet speed within the country is so low?

Within China itself the speed is very fast (as I mentioned my wife and I can both watch a different HD movie at the same time with no problem here).

[brg444]

Okay - thanks for the info - so SPV mining is not the same as the Relay Network?

So do we know exactly what software was being run by the pools that caused the fork?

Not at all.

Here:
http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/38437/what-is-spv-mining-and-how-did-it-inadvertently-cause-the-fork-after-bip66-wa
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3c305f/if_you_are_using_any_wallet_other_than_bitcoin/csrsrf9

[CIYAM]

I once had to reverse engineer a piece of code written by chinese poeple, their code was unbelievable, pure spaghetti! goto's and all.

There are goto's in Bitcoin's code written by some Americans - so go figure - people all around the world can write spaghetti and use goto statements.

Also reverse engineering C or C++ won't produce anything readable at all (as it is compiled).

[adamstgBit]

I once had to reverse engineer a piece of code written by chinese poeple, their code was unbelievable, pure spaghetti! goto's and all.

There are goto's in Bitcoin's code written by some Americans - so go figure - people all around the world can write spaghetti and use goto statements.

Also reverse engineering C or C++ won't produce anything readable at all (as it is compiled).

they gave me their source, we work together. ( maybe reverse engineer isn't the right thing to say, i needed to see how they handled certain things so my code could adhere to the same rules, which their code defined. )
well i had seen spaghetti code before, but this took it to a new level.

[adamstgBit]

so there you have it we can easily scale bitcoin to 4,000TPS while making sure typical home internet can handle mining operations.

no side chains.
no 3rd party payment processors.

call the devs, tell them can bump block limit to 1GB  

[uxgpf]

I mean.. we're really trying to have rational discussions about scaling and security yet some of you are ignorant of some of the most basic innerworkings of Bitcoin.

Then you wonder why no one cares or value your opinion...

What is wrong with people asking questions and trying to learn?

They might form informed opinions of their own, which in turn would reduce effectiveness of trolling.

[btc_enigma]

Really interesting ... !  There is some redundancy in a block , you easily see multiple txs referring to same txid as input ... saw https://gappleto97.github.io/visualizer/ today and looks like there are lots of cluster.  Not sure how much that would help to reduce size

[johnyj]

That invertible bloom look-up table sounds promising, but would take some time to implement, especially need to have a consensus first