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October 09, 2015, 10:12:03 PM
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I'm making the IRC bot pull edonkey's list so that it doesn't rely solely on my manual intervention.  There's one worker that I'm not sure anymore if it was a stick partaking on behalf of sidehack, or whether it should be counted as a donator: sidehackdonatedstick
Whoever's running that one, please clarify.  And if it is mentioned in the thread, whop me with a cluebat Smiley

that is a stick being mined for sidehack as a gift to him.  so  it counts as a stick /share  if we hit sidehack gets 1 share.

Thanks Phil. I had that stick in the wrong pile. Now I've moved it from "donators" to "workers".

TRS, I think the list is correct now. But if you see another problems, please PM me again. Thanks for your help cleaning up the list.

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right now the only issue I see is one person has not purchased a stick  so when beta testing ends he would not get a share.

We  well I allowed him to mine  and anyone else  to mine during beta with any gear  and get a share. as long as there were active.

I believe  he is mining with an s-3 and that is all he has.

this is the miner.

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.aarons6

So since we are coming up to the end of beta I wanted to check if aarons6  has added a stick and I missed it.





Next is  how to spilt a block after beta.

 I am thinking ½ based on equal spilt ½ based on shares earned in time frame.  Based on this idea  we could keep someone like aarons6 in the pool and he only gets coins from shares ½ not the stick ½ .


Size limits members in the club       maybe 30 or less.

Length of a run 1 month       the 11th of each month.


I think the above pushes sidehack product which I/we want to do.

We could also do  something for pods when and if they come out.

Opinions needed for the above.
Also for this run from oct 11 to nov 11   I will point this miner  24/7/30



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October 09, 2015, 11:35:46 PM
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right now the only issue I see is one person has not purchased a stick  so when beta testing ends he would not get a share.

We  well I allowed him to mine  and anyone else  to mine during beta with any gear  and get a share. as long as there were active.

I believe  he is mining with an s-3 and that is all he has.

this is the miner.

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.aarons6

So since we are coming up to the end of beta I wanted to check if aarons6  has added a stick and I missed it.





Next is  how to spilt a block after beta.

 I am thinking ½ based on equal spilt ½ based on shares earned in time frame.  Based on this idea  we could keep someone like aarons6 in the pool and he only gets coins from shares ½ not the stick ½ .


Size limits members in the club       maybe 30 or less.

Length of a run 1 month       the 11th of each month.


I think the above pushes sidehack product which I/we want to do.

We could also do  something for pods when and if they come out.

Opinions needed for the above.
Also for this run from oct 11 to nov 11   I will point this miner  24/7/30




I guess now would be a good time to pickup the ideas i threw out a while back.

I had suggested max 2 shares per person. 1 for stick, 1 for donation no matter what the donation is, that way everyone still get equal share but this will incite people to donate what they can.

I am not sure if you meant half the reward go equally between stick owners and the other half is hashrate dependent. If that is the case;

I would say if there is not a too big difference in minimum and maximum given your option would be good and more rewarding for people who throw in more hash, while still worthwhile for people that can only point a bit of hash at this. Since just actively pointing a stick means getting 1/60th of 25BTC+ if we have 30 participants.

Your way may motivate more hashrate to be thrown at this, so both way would get my +1.


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October 09, 2015, 11:43:44 PM
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right now the only issue I see is one person has not purchased a stick  so when beta testing ends he would not get a share.

We  well I allowed him to mine  and anyone else  to mine during beta with any gear  and get a share. as long as there were active.

I believe  he is mining with an s-3 and that is all he has.

this is the miner.

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.aarons6

So since we are coming up to the end of beta I wanted to check if aarons6  has added a stick and I missed it.





Next is  how to spilt a block after beta.

 I am thinking ½ based on equal spilt ½ based on shares earned in time frame.  Based on this idea  we could keep someone like aarons6 in the pool and he only gets coins from shares ½ not the stick ½ .


Size limits members in the club       maybe 30 or less.

Length of a run 1 month       the 11th of each month.


I think the above pushes sidehack product which I/we want to do.

We could also do  something for pods when and if they come out.

Opinions needed for the above.
Also for this run from oct 11 to nov 11   I will point this miner  24/7/30




I guess now would be a good time to pickup the ideas i threw out a while back.

I had suggested max 2 shares per person. 1 for stick, 1 for donation no matter what the donation is, that way everyone still get equal share but this will incite people to donate what they can.

I am not sure if you meant half the reward go equally between stick owners and the other half is hashrate dependent. If that is the case;

I would say if there is not a too big difference in minimum and maximum given your option would be good and more rewarding for people who throw in more hash, while still worthwhile for people that can only point a bit of hash at this. Since just actively pointing a stick means getting 1/60th of 25BTC+ if we have 30 participants.

Your way may motivate more hashrate to be thrown at this, so both way would get my +1.



Phil has a good system worked out he posted.  We should not stop support of sticks at 2.  This club is part to help sidehack and if you have  a ton of these sticks you get more of reward.  But phil doing 1/2 equal share is more then fair.

It also allows those with many more to get more of the other 1/2 so makes sense.  And goal is to be fun chances of hitting block are slim.
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October 10, 2015, 12:00:47 AM
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right now the only issue I see is one person has not purchased a stick  so when beta testing ends he would not get a share.

We  well I allowed him to mine  and anyone else  to mine during beta with any gear  and get a share. as long as there were active.

I believe  he is mining with an s-3 and that is all he has.

this is the miner.

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.aarons6

So since we are coming up to the end of beta I wanted to check if aarons6  has added a stick and I missed it.





Next is  how to spilt a block after beta.

 I am thinking ½ based on equal spilt ½ based on shares earned in time frame.  Based on this idea  we could keep someone like aarons6 in the pool and he only gets coins from shares ½ not the stick ½ .


Size limits members in the club       maybe 30 or less.

Length of a run 1 month       the 11th of each month.


I think the above pushes sidehack product which I/we want to do.

We could also do  something for pods when and if they come out.

Opinions needed for the above.
Also for this run from oct 11 to nov 11   I will point this miner  24/7/30



i plan on buying one as soon as he reopens the sales.. maybe even 2.
i can move my s3 to kanos pool until i get it tho..
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October 10, 2015, 12:13:27 AM
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i plan on buying one as soon as he reopens the sales.. maybe even 2.
i can move my s3 to kanos pool until i get it tho..


My biggest suggestion use this time to get a Y usb adapter.   The one that get's power from 2 usb ports.   If you go cheap it takes a week or two.  Mine was closer to two weeks.

So I would order on ebay now as they are super cheap with free shipping, just slow shipping.
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i plan on buying one as soon as he reopens the sales.. maybe even 2.
i can move my s3 to kanos pool until i get it tho..


My biggest suggestion use this time to get a Y usb adapter.   The one that get's power from 2 usb ports.   If you go cheap it takes a week or two.  Mine was closer to two weeks.

So I would order on ebay now as they are super cheap with free shipping, just slow shipping.

this?
http://www.amazon.com/Power-Enhancer-Female-Charge-Extension/dp/B00NIGO4NM/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1444436937&sr=1-4&keywords=USB+Y+Adapter+Cable
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October 10, 2015, 01:23:48 AM
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i plan on buying one as soon as he reopens the sales.. maybe even 2.
i can move my s3 to kanos pool until i get it tho..


My biggest suggestion use this time to get a Y usb adapter.   The one that get's power from 2 usb ports.   If you go cheap it takes a week or two.  Mine was closer to two weeks.

So I would order on ebay now as they are super cheap with free shipping, just slow shipping.

this?
http://www.amazon.com/Power-Enhancer-Female-Charge-Extension/dp/B00NIGO4NM/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1444436937&sr=1-4&keywords=USB+Y+Adapter+Cable

yeah but it is from china slow shipping.

If you are usa based I can send one cable to you. I think sidehack is opening the stick cue soon or he already has done so.

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October 10, 2015, 01:47:18 AM
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right now the only issue I see is one person has not purchased a stick  so when beta testing ends he would not get a share.

We  well I allowed him to mine  and anyone else  to mine during beta with any gear  and get a share. as long as there were active.

I believe  he is mining with an s-3 and that is all he has.

this is the miner.

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.aarons6

So since we are coming up to the end of beta I wanted to check if aarons6  has added a stick and I missed it.





Next is  how to spilt a block after beta.

 I am thinking ½ based on equal spilt ½ based on shares earned in time frame.  Based on this idea  we could keep someone like aarons6 in the pool and he only gets coins from shares ½ not the stick ½ .


Size limits members in the club       maybe 30 or less.

Length of a run 1 month       the 11th of each month.


I think the above pushes sidehack product which I/we want to do.

We could also do  something for pods when and if they come out.

Opinions needed for the above.
Also for this run from oct 11 to nov 11   I will point this miner  24/7/30




I guess now would be a good time to pickup the ideas i threw out a while back.

I had suggested max 2 shares per person. 1 for stick, 1 for donation no matter what the donation is, that way everyone still get equal share but this will incite people to donate what they can.

I am not sure if you meant half the reward go equally between stick owners and the other half is hashrate dependent. If that is the case;

I would say if there is not a too big difference in minimum and maximum given your option would be good and more rewarding for people who throw in more hash, while still worthwhile for people that can only point a bit of hash at this. Since just actively pointing a stick means getting 1/60th of 25BTC+ if we have 30 participants.

Your way may motivate more hashrate to be thrown at this, so both way would get my +1.




here is the math for the next run. for the sake of easy math 30 people in  everybody has to have a stick.

 lets pretend  it is exactly 25 btc. plus .5 for fees  so

  ck has takes his fee which is .25 or .5  

 as I understand

 this setup we would know who hit the block and the guy that hits it gets the fees.     say .5  and pretend we have an even 24 coins to split

pile a 12 coins    12 coins/30 people  = .4btc  for each of the 30 members this part is good for a 1 stick guy

pile b 12 coins    12coins split by shares made. lest say 30 of us do 10000gh average

 so my s-3 is 450gh my 20 sticks are 270gh this is 720gh/10000  or   7.2%  of the 12 coins  in my case .864 coins  my combined amount

 part a = 0.400
 part b = 0.864
total    = 1.264


lets say a 1 stick guy doing 10gh

part a = 0.400   12/30  if we have 30 of us
part b = 0.012   10/10000  if he averaged 10gh out of our combined 10,000th
total   = 0.412



so a 1 stick guy gets          0.412
a 20 stick + s-3 guy gets   1.264



If it was by hash alone like most pools that 20 stick + s-3 guy would get 7.2% of 24 = 1.728 btc

this makes less of a penalty for him being generous




Now wait a minute suppose some wise guy rents  3 ph  and points at the pool until he hits a block.

well he will get  12/30  = 0.400  from part A

and  yeah he will get most of the part B maybe 11btc of the 12   .  but what the fuck  he would be helping us a lot since if he solo's alone he gets everything.

  so this method of split  I came up with   is very good it helps stick guys if some one tosses tons at the pool.

It allows you to say 1 stick here and if you do this it is favorable math since other people will point extra.

It allows a guy that understand what we are trying to do spend extra hash over the sticks and still get some extra coin while helping lessor.

Worst case is every just points 1 stick and I point 20 sticks and the s-3.  which means everyone gets a subsidy if we hit a block.  This also means most likely we don't hit a block. But 1 stick hashing for nothing is not the end of the world.

It gives freedom of hashpower and after the beta testing I can see we can use some extra hash like an s-3 or a rental.
  The guy that wants to point that s-3 or rental should get a little something.  But I have to crack down a bit and be sure everyone has a stick.

Only aarons6 does not have a stick, but I do believe  sidehack is going to start order this weekend.


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October 10, 2015, 01:52:40 AM
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Thanks Phil. [...] TRS, I think the list is correct now.
yep, thanks to you both Smiley

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i plan on buying one as soon as he reopens the sales.. maybe even 2.
i can move my s3 to kanos pool until i get it tho..


My biggest suggestion use this time to get a Y usb adapter.   The one that get's power from 2 usb ports.   If you go cheap it takes a week or two.  Mine was closer to two weeks.

So I would order on ebay now as they are super cheap with free shipping, just slow shipping.

this?
http://www.amazon.com/Power-Enhancer-Female-Charge-Extension/dp/B00NIGO4NM/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1444436937&sr=1-4&keywords=USB+Y+Adapter+Cable

yeah but it is from china slow shipping.

If you are usa based I can send one cable to you. I think sidehack is opening the stick cue soon or he already has done so.

yes im in washington state. i just ordered a stick.

im going to try to run it off the r1 i ordered.
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i plan on buying one as soon as he reopens the sales.. maybe even 2.
i can move my s3 to kanos pool until i get it tho..


My biggest suggestion use this time to get a Y usb adapter.   The one that get's power from 2 usb ports.   If you go cheap it takes a week or two.  Mine was closer to two weeks.

So I would order on ebay now as they are super cheap with free shipping, just slow shipping.

this?
http://www.amazon.com/Power-Enhancer-Female-Charge-Extension/dp/B00NIGO4NM/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1444436937&sr=1-4&keywords=USB+Y+Adapter+Cable

yeah but it is from china slow shipping.

If you are usa based I can send one cable to you. I think sidehack is opening the stick cue soon or he already has done so.

yes im in washington state. i just ordered a stick.

im going to try to run it off the r1 i ordered.

shoot me a pm with an address I will mail a cable to you.

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sending him a y cable and a hub on sat.

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sending him a y cable and a hub on sat.

thank you very much.. i look forward to messing around with the compac and the r1 to see if i can make them work together.
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i plan on buying one as soon as he reopens the sales.. maybe even 2.
i can move my s3 to kanos pool until i get it tho..


My biggest suggestion use this time to get a Y usb adapter.   The one that get's power from 2 usb ports.   If you go cheap it takes a week or two.  Mine was closer to two weeks.

So I would order on ebay now as they are super cheap with free shipping, just slow shipping.

this?
http://www.amazon.com/Power-Enhancer-Female-Charge-Extension/dp/B00NIGO4NM/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1444436937&sr=1-4&keywords=USB+Y+Adapter+Cable

yeah but it is from china slow shipping.

If you are usa based I can send one cable to you. I think sidehack is opening the stick cue soon or he already has done so.

It's true I owe phil for learning about how to get these Y cables cheap off ebay.   I believe i bought mine for around what that amazon one cost's on shipping.

As phil said though from china it is slow.  But at a dollar something it's hard to beat. 
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re: y-cables and Compac.. when I updated the resellers list yesterday (GekkoScience re-opened sales), I thought I'd click on the store/web search shortcuts, and lo and behold:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/?LH_PrefLoc=2&_nkw=bitcoin+GekkoScience+Compac

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re: y-cables and Compac.. when I updated the resellers list yesterday (GekkoScience re-opened sales), I thought I'd click on the store/web search shortcuts, and lo and behold:
(removed ebay link as I don't want to advertise  in the pool thread)

( not my listing and this should not be seen as an endorsement )

It is my listing I was hoping of possibility of becoming a re-seller. One of those thoughs that sounded great in my head, and in actual workings did no really go like planned.  Thought it might be good as no one had even listed one.  But there has been no interest and sidehack will have stock soon, so after those expire they will not be re-listed.

I didn't post about it in any threads as I don't like to do a ad in someone elses thread.    Someone might be able to do it better then me, I did all kind of warnings with windows as I don't want a not as described.   If someone want's to do windows driver support you might likely get more sales (I'm sitting at 0 ).

And again I'm not advertising here.   After listings one end one less then day left, but they will not be re-listed.  Someone else is welcome to try to take the ebay market if they feel they can move them.

*Edit one auction has already ended and other has less than a day left. So yea..... my idea that could have been good did not work out.  If anyone is going to try to do it there is interest around $30 range and $5 shipping.   But take ebay fees into account there is no profit at that price.  

*Edit two got a few offers just not enough to make it worth while.  Re-listed again to see if offers will happen again higher or fluke.   Still would love to be a reseller of these fun things.   But not holding breath with 0 sales.
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October 10, 2015, 09:52:23 AM
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I have just been reading through this thread and I've got to say how organised it has become.
 Just wanted to wish you all the best of luck.

Where would be the best place to get hold of a GekkoScience / Sidehack stick miner?
I've had a look at the Bitshopper site and they are out of stock. Can you point me to where best to look , I'm based in the UK.

Thanks
 

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I have just been reading through this thread and I've got to say how organised it has become.
 Just wanted to wish you all the best of luck.

Where would be the best place to get hold of a GekkoScience / Sidehack stick miner?
I've had a look at the Bitshopper site and they are out of stock. Can you point me to where best to look , I'm based in the UK.

Thanks
 

Assuming your in the US over here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1126705.0

He has started a queue so you can get in early and pre-oder by a week or two.  This is route I would suggest.
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