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I have read the opposite news. Al Qaeda declares loyalty to ISIS. I don't remember the source and I am not finding it now but I'm sure about this. But my question is: How is possible that these two twins declare war each others?
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September 12, 2015, 08:15:02 AM |
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I have read the opposite news. Al Qaeda declares loyalty to ISIS. I don't remember the source and I am not finding it now but I'm sure about this. But my question is: How is possible that these two twins declare war each others?
ISIS leader rejected Al Qaeda authority and declaring himself leader of all Muslims, Ayman al-zawahir as Al Qaeda leader accused ISIS leader Abu bakr baghdadi of "sedition" and said he was not the leader of all Muslims as he claimed. Al Qaeda never declares loyalty to ISIS, but yes they joined forces on November 2, 2014 and the alliance was short. Source : http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-and-al-qaeda-leaders-reach-accord-in-syria-sources-tell-ap/Alien VS Predator
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September 12, 2015, 05:30:27 PM |
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I have read the opposite news. Al Qaeda declares loyalty to ISIS. I don't remember the source and I am not finding it now but I'm sure about this. But my question is: How is possible that these two twins declare war each others?
Al Qaeda is not an unified group anymore. They are split in to several organizations, differing in their intentions. For example, the Al Qaeda in Syria (known as Al Nusra) is against the ISIS. But at the same time, the other Al Qaeda groups (such as those in the Maghreb and Yemen) remains friendly with the local chapters of the Islamic State.
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September 12, 2015, 06:14:21 PM |
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend. So now Al Qaeda, who is an enemy we are still trying to destroy, is going to help combat ISIS, another enemy. Meanwhile, we are trying to save Syria from ISIS the enemy, while at the same time trying to engineer a change in Syria's leadership who we consider an enemy. I don't believe this, this is just a joke and they are fooling the people.
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September 12, 2015, 06:36:51 PM |
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
The same strategy was tried earlier with Taliban in Afghanistan (during the 1980s), and it was such a mundane failure. Al Qaeda and ISIS are two sides of the same coin. If you support the Al Qaeda (to destroy the ISIS), then after sometime they are going to attack you by bombing the schools and public places in your country.
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September 12, 2015, 06:47:24 PM |
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The CIA directer said they have foreseen the split after the death of Bin Laden but didn't expect the rise of ISIS. I hope the US do not secretly assist al qaeda (again) and let them battled it out in their territory and leave the rest of the world out of it.
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September 12, 2015, 08:02:18 PM |
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No need to exploit this divide, I really don't think we should be in the middle east anymore. The US has no role to play there. What are we even fighting anymore!? Yeah, yeah "war on terror"... but I don't think this is a wise use of our resources. This whole situation is not as big a threat as it once was. The biggest threat we've had in modern times are security vulnerabilities, that's what caused 9/11. The only thing we have to do overseas is protect and advice our allies. Let the divide in the Muslim community of the middle east play itself out. We don't have to involve ourselves in every tragedy in Africa and the middle east. We have more urgent issues at home.
We're not doing right by our own citizens. Our citizens and our allies should be priority! When we've met most of their needs, maybe then we can go into some broken nation and try to get their people proper security, governments, lifestyle, etc. But right now, we just don't have the resources.
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September 12, 2015, 10:41:23 PM |
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Maybe we will be lucky and they will kill each other, and we won't have any problems in the future ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That would be the best possible thing that can happen. They produce so many problems in today's world, and it is time someone to put an end to that.
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September 13, 2015, 04:53:54 AM |
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No need to exploit this divide, I really don't think we should be in the middle east anymore. The US has no role to play there. What are we even fighting anymore!? Yeah, yeah "war on terror"... but I don't think this is a wise use of our resources. This whole situation is not as big a threat as it once was. The biggest threat we've had in modern times are security vulnerabilities, that's what caused 9/11. The only thing we have to do overseas is protect and advice our allies. Let the divide in the Muslim community of the middle east play itself out. We don't have to involve ourselves in every tragedy in Africa and the middle east. We have more urgent issues at home.
We're not doing right by our own citizens. Our citizens and our allies should be priority! When we've met most of their needs, maybe then we can go into some broken nation and try to get their people proper security, governments, lifestyle, etc. But right now, we just don't have the resources.
America didn't go to the middle east or any other place to spread democracy. Or to improve security or lifestyle of people there. And it's not that America went there to fight terror. Iraq had nothing to do with terror until it was destroyed by years of sanctions and then war for example. America went there for the same reason it went into many other places. To keep control of the region and all other regions that depend on it for oil and other resources. And to funnel money to corporations, weapons manufacturers and military contractors. And I don't believe security vulnerabilities are the biggest threat. The biggest threat is the impact that the hundreds of thousands that died is having. And will have in the future. Radicalizing whole countries, sectarian conflicts, more terror attacks, waves of refugees, etc.
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September 13, 2015, 04:55:43 AM |
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http://abcnews.go.com/International/al-qaeda-leader-al-zawahiri-declares-war-isis/story?id=33656684Just ahead of the fourteenth anniversary of al Qaeda's 9/11 attacks on the U.S., the leader of the terrorist group took aim in an angry speech at a mortal enemy -- but not American “crusaders” this time. Rather, the object of his tirade was the leader of ISIS in a declaration of war that will “irreconcilably” divide the two terror groups in a way the U.S. may be able to exploit, experts say. Ayman al-Zawahiri, the Egyptian doctor who replaced Osama bin Laden as the head of al Qaeda four years ago, in a new audio message accused ISIS top leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi of “sedition” and insisted the Iraqi terrorist recluse was not the leader of all Muslims and militant jihad as “caliph” of the Islamic State, as al-Baghdadi had claimed 14 months ago in a Mosul mosque. “It’s pretty interesting,” said former National Counterterrorism Center Director Matthew Olsen. “Zawahiri until now has not been willing to openly condemn Baghdadi and ISIS. It highlights how deep the division is between al Qaeda leadership and ISIS. It suggests that the differences are irreconcilable.” Had ISIS and al Qaeda realigned by joining forces, it “would be terrible,” said Olsen, an ABC News contributor.
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September 13, 2015, 11:01:24 PM |
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend. ....
Not in this case.
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September 14, 2015, 04:22:39 AM |
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This would be great. I have read the opposite news. Al Qaeda declares loyalty to ISIS. I don't remember the source and I am not finding it now but I'm sure about this. But my question is: How is possible that these two twins declare war each others?
This would be bad. Would the mainstream media report what the population wants to hear or what the population thinks is be the truth...tough call.
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September 15, 2015, 06:50:43 AM |
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This will bad to the people who will be killed in the crossfire between this two terrorist.
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September 15, 2015, 07:52:40 AM |
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend. So now Al Qaeda, who is an enemy we are still trying to destroy, is going to help combat ISIS, another enemy. Meanwhile, we are trying to save Syria from ISIS the enemy, while at the same time trying to engineer a change in Syria's leadership who we consider an enemy. I don't believe this, this is just a joke and they are fooling the people.
Well if want to Engineer another Libyan disaster, that would be the policy, but some people don't pay that much attention to this. As it is it makes sense to put resources to combat ISIS and assist Al-Qaeda but then turn on them later just like with Gadaffi. http://www.globalresearch.ca/libyas-nato-supported-pro-democracy-rebels-have-joined-the-islamic-state-isis/5414949That said any program the US or Europe had to destabilize the region backfired when all the immigrants left the country to come to Europe although they do get money off the rich ones that leave the country as well it is a pain for them. _ Best strategy here is sheer power although China and Russia are touching this grenade and its closer to their turf if the US wanted to leave. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/09/14/analysis-russia-takes-gamble-in-syria-ramping-up-military-involvement-in-civil/http://thediplomat.com/2015/09/how-china-helped-cause-the-syrian-refugee-crisis/
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