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September 18, 2015, 10:26:41 AM
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Welcome back weathbet, gonna do some betting here and I think its gonna be a lot better than sports betting.
But I think you may need to correct this:
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Weathbet is provably fair?
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I think you guys are confusing Fair with Provably fair with the latter meaning Verification using Sha256 which I'm pretty sure the site doesnt provide.
Anyway good luck with the site


Provably fair, means fairness is provable. One way hashing algorithms like SHA256 are one way of doing it (which is not possible in sports betting nor in this case).

tl;dr Weathbet.com is provably fair.  Cool
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September 18, 2015, 10:29:42 AM
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Welcome back weathbet, gonna do some betting here and I think its gonna be a lot better than sports betting.
But I think you may need to correct this:
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Weathbet is provably fair?
Yes
I think you guys are confusing Fair with Provably fair with the latter meaning Verification using Sha256 which I'm pretty sure the site doesnt provide.
Anyway good luck with the site


Provably fair, means fairness is provable. One way hashing algorithms like SHA256 are one way of doing it (which is not possible in sports betting nor in this case).

tl;dr Weathbet.com is provably fair.  Cool
You should try a google mate: http://dicesites.com/provably-fair
http://provablyfair.org/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/18rh3v/how_does_provably_fair_gambling_work/
To end it, provably fair is a completely different thing than being able to verify your bets, it is a "system" and weathbet hasn't implemented it.

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September 18, 2015, 11:00:32 AM
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Welcome back weathbet, gonna do some betting here and I think its gonna be a lot better than sports betting.
But I think you may need to correct this:
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Weathbet is provably fair?
Yes
I think you guys are confusing Fair with Provably fair with the latter meaning Verification using Sha256 which I'm pretty sure the site doesnt provide.
Anyway good luck with the site


Provably fair, means fairness is provable. One way hashing algorithms like SHA256 are one way of doing it (which is not possible in sports betting nor in this case).

tl;dr Weathbet.com is provably fair.  Cool
You should try a google mate: http://dicesites.com/provably-fair
http://provablyfair.org/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/18rh3v/how_does_provably_fair_gambling_work/
To end it, provably fair is a completely different thing than being able to verify your bets, it is a "system" and weathbet hasn't implemented it.

Or

Take a dictionary and look up what is meant by "provable" and what is meant by "fair". Link them up to find out what "provably fair" is. Cheesy

lol, so for sportsbook or weathbet, how do they know what to hash it with? The outcome is verifiable, and out of control of OP, so it qualifies for the terminology to be used.  Cool



Edit: From your first link. "Provably fair is a tool that enables you (the player) to verify each roll result and make sure you are not being cheated!" It is what it does.
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September 18, 2015, 11:10:05 AM
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Welcome back weathbet, gonna do some betting here and I think its gonna be a lot better than sports betting.
But I think you may need to correct this:
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Weathbet is provably fair?
Yes
I think you guys are confusing Fair with Provably fair with the latter meaning Verification using Sha256 which I'm pretty sure the site doesnt provide.
Anyway good luck with the site


Provably fair, means fairness is provable. One way hashing algorithms like SHA256 are one way of doing it (which is not possible in sports betting nor in this case).

tl;dr Weathbet.com is provably fair.  Cool
You should try a google mate: http://dicesites.com/provably-fair
http://provablyfair.org/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/18rh3v/how_does_provably_fair_gambling_work/
To end it, provably fair is a completely different thing than being able to verify your bets, it is a "system" and weathbet hasn't implemented it.

Or

Take a dictionary and look up what is meant by "provable" and what is meant by "fair". Link them up to find out what "provably fair" is. Cheesy

lol, so for sportsbook or weathbet, how do they know what to hash it with? The outcome is verifiable, and out of control of OP, so it qualifies for the terminology to be used.  Cool



Edit: From your first link. "Provably fair is a tool that enables you (the player) to verify each roll result and make sure you are not being cheated!" It is what it does.
I know what provable and fair mean, but collectively they belong as a kind of copyright term which means only SHA256 verification of bets, not something that can be verifiable after making the bets.
They should use the term "Provable" or "fair" or "Provable and fair".
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September 18, 2015, 11:21:03 AM
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I know what provable and fair mean, but collectively they belong as a kind of copyright term which means only SHA256 verification of bets, not something that can be verifiable after making the bets.
They should use the term "Provable" or "fair" or "Provable and fair".
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huh? Copyright term? LMAO Tongue


So if I used SHA512 instead it is no longer provably fair, right?


It is only what it does, mate. I think this discussion is off-topic. The spcific system you are referring to is not implementable in these cases.

Take Weathbets. There are two cases:
1. Weathbets does not provide a source for temperature, wind speed and atm presure data. It is possible to make a win lose, and the other way round. This is what is meant by not being provably fair.
2. Weathbets provide a source for the result of the bets. The source is independent and an official one. So the player can check whether the wind speed is correct or whatever and verify his bets. This is what is referred to as being provably fair.

Which means Weathbets is provably fair, as each of the bets can be verified, and OP cannot change the result of a bet.


Thanks Smiley
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September 18, 2015, 11:35:03 AM
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We have added "provably fair" because in bitcoin world is known to users and you can verify your own bet on official gov website, this is basically what ndnhc is saying
The outcome is verifiable, and out of control of OP

maybe is not the perfect word but it gives you an idea

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September 18, 2015, 12:33:22 PM
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I know what provable and fair mean, but collectively they belong as a kind of copyright term which means only SHA256 verification of bets, not something that can be verifiable after making the bets.
They should use the term "Provable" or "fair" or "Provable and fair".
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ProvablyFair.org - © Copyright Leech Software.com 2015

huh? Copyright term? LMAO Tongue


So if I used SHA512 instead it is no longer provably fair, right?


It is only what it does, mate. I think this discussion is off-topic. The spcific system you are referring to is not implementable in these cases.

Take Weathbets. There are two cases:
1. Weathbets does not provide a source for temperature, wind speed and atm presure data. It is possible to make a win lose, and the other way round. This is what is meant by not being provably fair.
2. Weathbets provide a source for the result of the bets. The source is independent and an official one. So the player can check whether the wind speed is correct or whatever and verify his bets. This is what is referred to as being provably fair.

Which means Weathbets is provably fair, as each of the bets can be verified, and OP cannot change the result of a bet.


Thanks Smiley
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This discussion is not off-topic as I am discussing about a term in their site which is wringly place, as for your arguments.
Forget I said SHA256 I meant hash. What you seem to take as Provably Fair is just verifiying of bets not Provably Fair, or you should name every sports betting site as Provably site. And provably fair is supposed to be a verification as in, the result was in some server but encrypted so as not to cause player to change his bet, and should be totally random, but weather is not AFAIK fitting in any of them, ok maybe some randomess but not as much as Provably fair provides.

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September 18, 2015, 12:55:45 PM
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This discussion is not off-topic as I am discussing about a term in their site which is wringly place, as for your arguments.
Forget I said SHA256 I meant hash. What you seem to take as Provably Fair is just verifiying of bets not Provably Fair, or you should name every sports betting site as Provably site. And provably fair is supposed to be a verification as in, the result was in some server but encrypted so as not to cause player to change his bet, and should be totally random, but weather is not AFAIK fitting in any of them, ok maybe some randomess but not as much as Provably fair provides.


Even if I am wrong (I am sure I am not), everyone can have their own interpretations. Provably fair describes it better than any other word does. There is nothing wrong there and I see no need to change it to something vague and confusing.
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September 18, 2015, 01:02:12 PM
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Is it just me having bugs with the site? When i clicked my country and instead of showing up the cities belong to what i have clicked ramdom cities showed up? Any the same issue?

And to those provably fair debates i think what the other guy wanted to say was weathbet outcomes based on the Natures condition which cannot be controlled by anyone the same with sports betting outcomes based on the players performance and no way a site can cheat.

Unlike to any other games like roulettes, dice, poker or any other that can be controlled provably fair should be implemented to prevent a cheat using the method you discussed.
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September 18, 2015, 01:11:44 PM
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Is it just me having bugs with the site? When i clicked my country and instead of showing up the cities belong to what i have clicked ramdom cities showed up? Any the same issue?

And to those provably fair debates i think what the other guy wanted to say was weathbet outcomes based on the Natures condition which cannot be controlled by anyone the same with sports betting outcomes based on the players performance and no way a site can cheat.

Unlike to any other games like roulettes, dice, poker or any other that can be controlled provably fair should be implemented to prevent a cheat using the method you discussed.
Thats what I wanted to say, my concern is just that there was another site which had Provably fair written in its help page while it was not, turned out it did so to attract players. And I don't think this site is going to cheat in any way just may make it confusing that it is no way(except in definition as said by nhdnc) related to Provably fair which is a system implemented by casinos to make it "impossible"for the casino to cheat its users. Didn't expect a long discussion regarding this but this is how it ended up

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September 18, 2015, 01:17:54 PM
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Is it just me having bugs with the site? When i clicked my country and instead of showing up the cities belong to what i have clicked ramdom cities showed up? Any the same issue?

And to those provably fair debates i think what the other guy wanted to say was weathbet outcomes based on the Natures condition which cannot be controlled by anyone the same with sports betting outcomes based on the players performance and no way a site can cheat.

Unlike to any other games like roulettes, dice, poker or any other that can be controlled provably fair should be implemented to prevent a cheat using the method you discussed.
Thats what I wanted to say, my concern is just that there was another site which had Provably fair written in its help page while it was not, turned out it did so to attract players. And I don't think this site is going to cheat in any way just may make it confusing that it is no way(except in definition as said by nhdnc) related to Provably fair which is a system implemented by casinos to make it "impossible"for the casino to cheat its users. Didn't expect a long discussion regarding this but this is how it ended up

For a player, the term "provably fair" makes the difference between:

1. Weathbets does not provide a source for temperature, wind speed and atm presure data. It is possible to make a win lose, and the other way round. This is what is meant by not being provably fair.
2. Weathbets provide a source for the result of the bets. The source is independent and an official one. So the player can check whether the wind speed is correct or whatever and verify his bets. This is what is referred to as being provably fair.

Provably fair is the most appropriate and generally understood term that describes it.


The terminology used is quite fine, imo.
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September 18, 2015, 01:23:18 PM
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Is it just me having bugs with the site? When i clicked my country and instead of showing up the cities belong to what i have clicked ramdom cities showed up? Any the same issue?

And to those provably fair debates i think what the other guy wanted to say was weathbet outcomes based on the Natures condition which cannot be controlled by anyone the same with sports betting outcomes based on the players performance and no way a site can cheat.

Unlike to any other games like roulettes, dice, poker or any other that can be controlled provably fair should be implemented to prevent a cheat using the method you discussed.
bla bla bla
2. Weathbets provide a source for the result of the bets. The source is independent and an official one. So the player can check whether the wind speed is correct or whatever and verify his bets. This is what is referred to as being provably fair.

Provably fair is the most appropriate and generally understood term that describes it.


The terminology used is quite fine, imo.
Okay you win I lose if that makes you happy.

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September 18, 2015, 01:26:26 PM
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Is it just me having bugs with the site? When i clicked my country and instead of showing up the cities belong to what i have clicked ramdom cities showed up? Any the same issue?

And to those provably fair debates i think what the other guy wanted to say was weathbet outcomes based on the Natures condition which cannot be controlled by anyone the same with sports betting outcomes based on the players performance and no way a site can cheat.

Unlike to any other games like roulettes, dice, poker or any other that can be controlled provably fair should be implemented to prevent a cheat using the method you discussed.
Thats what I wanted to say, my concern is just that there was another site which had Provably fair written in its help page while it was not, turned out it did so to attract players. And I don't think this site is going to cheat in any way just may make it confusing that it is no way(except in definition as said by nhdnc) related to Provably fair which is a system implemented by casinos to make it "impossible"for the casino to cheat its users. Didn't expect a long discussion regarding this but this is how it ended up

I dont really sure but maybe you both misunderstood each other.
The first was Weathbet is not a casino provably fair policy is not necessary.

The 2nd guy was talking about Casinos provably fair Policy.

That is the real story.
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September 18, 2015, 02:06:35 PM
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Is it just me having bugs with the site? When i clicked my country and instead of showing up the cities belong to what i have clicked ramdom cities showed up? Any the same issue?

And to those provably fair debates i think what the other guy wanted to say was weathbet outcomes based on the Natures condition which cannot be controlled by anyone the same with sports betting outcomes based on the players performance and no way a site can cheat.

Unlike to any other games like roulettes, dice, poker or any other that can be controlled provably fair should be implemented to prevent a cheat using the method you discussed.
Thats what I wanted to say, my concern is just that there was another site which had Provably fair written in its help page while it was not, turned out it did so to attract players. And I don't think this site is going to cheat in any way just may make it confusing that it is no way(except in definition as said by nhdnc) related to Provably fair which is a system implemented by casinos to make it "impossible"for the casino to cheat its users. Didn't expect a long discussion regarding this but this is how it ended up

I dont really sure but maybe you both misunderstood each other.
The first was Weathbet is not a casino provably fair policy is not necessary.

The 2nd guy was talking about Casinos provably fair Policy.

That is the real story.

Yep. That is correct. He isn't wrong anywhere, nor am I. Smiley

But OP doesn't have to change the terminology. That is all I mean.
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September 19, 2015, 01:06:54 PM
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i remember the old version of the site and i see more city (already my city with low people). Now i see only big city, is because you have switched to  National and International Weather Service NOAA?
With the data from NOAA we have reduced the number of city (weather station) but you can find also smaller city

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This is a good website, I think it's easy to predict the weather looking the information from many sources.


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September 19, 2015, 04:17:36 PM
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This is a good website, I think it's easy to predict the weather looking the information from many sources.

You can try, you can get free "hints" from your local TG or online

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This is a good website, I think it's easy to predict the weather looking the information from many sources.

You can try, you can get free "hints" from your local TG or online

Yeah..this weathbet is free of house edge so there's no chance for human can manipulate the weather except God  Grin
Just try my luck here,...
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This is a good website, I think it's easy to predict the weather looking the information from many sources.

You can try, you can get free "hints" from your local TG or online

Yeah..this weathbet is free of house edge so there's no chance for human can manipulate the weather except God  Grin
Just try my luck here,...
Hahaha, Imagine you bet for the weather of chile and an earthquake + tsunami happens, (it happenned 2 days ago)


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Yeah..this weathbet is free of house edge so there's no chance for human can manipulate the weather except God  Grin
Just try my luck here,...

now government can make local rain by manipulate the levels of salt in the cloud



the weather condition always change so fast
will it bet on the hour, minute or second too?
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