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October 18, 2012, 04:33:22 PM |
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Is there a way to contact glbse? Nefario have blocked all PMs. And the email that he sent out to me have a "do not reply" to this email clause.
How do I distinguish who sent me the coins? glbse or any of the asset issuers could have sent me the coins. As the address I gave to GLBSE, they said they will forward those to asset issuers. I have balance in GLBSE, and have shares on some assets. Now I am confused as to who paid me.
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jbreher
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
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October 18, 2012, 05:20:56 PM |
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I did not receive an email. But I received some coin.
Two days later. Still no email. The disturbing aspect of this is the apparent variability in procedure. It would suggest an opportunity for a mistake that may cost someone some coin.
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Anyone with a campaign ad in their signature -- for an organization with which they are not otherwise affiliated -- is automatically deducted credibility points.
I've been convicted of heresy. Convicted by a mere known extortionist. Read my Trust for details.
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SebastianJu
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Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
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October 18, 2012, 05:32:22 PM |
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Please, post the ID transaction to prove your claims!
How could you prove their claims? Do you have access to the real numbers of btc they had in the database? Anyway... her is the transaction id: 38a82210856e8afe0c274bd6df72d218b584a6fbc6b44b05346023bafccfa090 I had some numbers behind the 6 so i think he took it as a fee without asking or rounded it. Unfortunately some got their amounts round up, some down. So i lost. I didnt get an email at all. How do I distinguish who sent me the coins? glbse or any of the asset issuers could have sent me the coins. As the address I gave to GLBSE, they said they will forward those to asset issuers. I have balance in GLBSE, and have shares on some assets. Now I am confused as to who paid me.
The coins are from glbse because the issuers didnt get info till now.
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Please ALWAYS contact me through bitcointalk pm before sending someone coins.
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Bogart
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October 18, 2012, 06:37:38 PM |
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If I may, I suggest a table be built and maintained in OP something like:
Username \t BTC expected \t BTC received \t Transaction ID(s)
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"All safe deposit boxes in banks or financial institutions have been sealed... and may only be opened in the presence of an agent of the I.R.S." - President F.D. Roosevelt, 1933
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October 18, 2012, 07:32:12 PM |
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It looks like the rest of the payments has started. The chain begins from tx 286b4172160ba21c8129e08dd43a9567ea55973be6038a54f8f35c92d6d34d20 of 975.8160973 BTC.
However instead of be paid the missing 10%, I was paid once again the 90% of my coins (31.05 BTC): The first payout (proper): c1c3372e1bedd22afd5c55c381840ea2ef697fc44528a50da10291e04907d75b The second (duplicated): 5264a57d8eaf761d81f7fe4507fbc3e21d53ebeb1f0095424e8794a6e1b85711 Maybe there is some charity giving the coins away to people, but I bet it's simple human error in Nefario's scripts. Let's hope the error is single.
I'll return the excess to Nefario, to let him to be able to refund others completely. I have to ask him by PM for proper address for the return. It may take a while before he answers.
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October 18, 2012, 07:41:09 PM Last edit: October 18, 2012, 07:55:43 PM by bitfair |
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It looks like the rest of the payments has started. The chain begins from tx 286b4172160ba21c8129e08dd43a9567ea55973be6038a54f8f35c92d6d34d20 of 975.8160973 BTC.
However instead of be paid the missing 10%, I was paid once again the 90% of my coins (31.05 BTC): The first payout (proper): c1c3372e1bedd22afd5c55c381840ea2ef697fc44528a50da10291e04907d75b The second (duplicated): 5264a57d8eaf761d81f7fe4507fbc3e21d53ebeb1f0095424e8794a6e1b85711 Maybe there is some charity giving the coins away to people, but I bet it's simple human error in Nefario's scripts. Let's hope the error is single.
I'll return the excess to Nefario, to let him to be able to refund others completely. I have to ask him by PM for proper address for the return. It may take a while before he answers.
I followed the chain a little and saw several duplicate payments too. (I suggest Nef stop payments and double-check, before half of the people get double-up and the rest get nothing...) Edit: Looks like all the payments made today were dupes of payments made on Tuesday (an additional example: http://blockchain.info/address/12NcPjtX6wjYLfmsTYvuTdXYwZ91tE1GFw) - Nef could actually have accidentally spent 975 BTC of user funds! (Pity I didn't have BTC there, I could have got back double!!)
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October 18, 2012, 07:44:52 PM |
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It looks like the rest of the payments has started. The chain begins from tx 286b4172160ba21c8129e08dd43a9567ea55973be6038a54f8f35c92d6d34d20 of 975.8160973 BTC.
However instead of be paid the missing 10%, I was paid once again the 90% of my coins (31.05 BTC): The first payout (proper): c1c3372e1bedd22afd5c55c381840ea2ef697fc44528a50da10291e04907d75b The second (duplicated): 5264a57d8eaf761d81f7fe4507fbc3e21d53ebeb1f0095424e8794a6e1b85711 Maybe there is some charity giving the coins away to people, but I bet it's simple human error in Nefario's scripts. Let's hope the error is single.
I'll return the excess to Nefario, to let him to be able to refund others completely. I have to ask him by PM for proper address for the return. It may take a while before he answers.
He blocked his PMs on bitcointalk.
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Introducing constraints to the economy only serves to limit what can be economical.
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Akka
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October 18, 2012, 08:08:49 PM |
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I have recieved the double paiment, too. I had hoped as first that I had more funds in there as I thought due to some of my sell orders went through, but now that I'm reading this. I will return the funds of course, as soon as I hear from GLBSE. Nefario has a mail address associated with my account.
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All previous versions of currency will no longer be supported as of this update
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October 18, 2012, 08:12:05 PM |
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I have recieved the double paiment, too. I had hoped as first that I had more funds in there as I thought due to some of my sell orders went through, but now that I'm reading this. I will return the funds of course, as soon as I hear from GLBSE. Nefario has a mail address associated with my account. If 100% was paid out initially, then those accounts could have been checked off instead of having to be paid again and none of the double payments could have occurred.
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Introducing constraints to the economy only serves to limit what can be economical.
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October 18, 2012, 08:16:04 PM |
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I have recieved the double paiment, too. I had hoped as first that I had more funds in there as I thought due to some of my sell orders went through, but now that I'm reading this. I will return the funds of course, as soon as I hear from GLBSE. Nefario has a mail address associated with my account. If 100% was paid out initially, then those accounts could have been checked off instead of having to be paid again and none of the double payments could have occurred. if he would have just left the site up, and suspended all trading, we could have just withdrew our own coin using the site's existing accounting/withdrawal system, and there would have been no problem at all. now? he's got a clusterfuck... love how people gotta keep making things harder on themselves... -- Smoov
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bitfair
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October 18, 2012, 08:19:29 PM |
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I have recieved the double paiment, too. I had hoped as first that I had more funds in there as I thought due to some of my sell orders went through, but now that I'm reading this. I will return the funds of course, as soon as I hear from GLBSE. Nefario has a mail address associated with my account. The double-payment chain seems to start here: http://blockchain.info/address/1NBtx9EiPKouwrnfCmPULbLSvxQctj11dA, that 1000BTC input was all spent in chained transactions made in about 10 minutes time.
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theymos
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October 18, 2012, 08:29:05 PM |
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October 18, 2012, 08:29:24 PM |
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I have recieved the double paiment, too. I had hoped as first that I had more funds in there as I thought due to some of my sell orders went through, but now that I'm reading this. I will return the funds of course, as soon as I hear from GLBSE. Nefario has a mail address associated with my account. The double-payment chain seems to start here: http://blockchain.info/address/1NBtx9EiPKouwrnfCmPULbLSvxQctj11dA, that 1000BTC input was all spent in chained transactions made in about 10 minutes time. Next you will see this email : Your GLBSE account has been over processed. 180% of your funds have been returned to you...
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Introducing constraints to the economy only serves to limit what can be economical.
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October 18, 2012, 08:44:19 PM |
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If I may, I suggest a table be built and maintained in OP something like:
Username \t BTC expected \t BTC received \t Transaction ID(s)
Noted and done.
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dishwara
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October 18, 2012, 08:49:13 PM |
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I too got double payment. Just checked. If Nefario gives any address to send, i am ready to send back.
May be by mistake,he used the script, which already paid, to pay again.
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senor_coconut
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a big question mark
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October 18, 2012, 08:58:49 PM |
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I too got double payment. Just checked. If Nefario gives any address to send, i am ready to send back.
May be by mistake,he used the script, which already paid, to pay again.
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dishwara
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October 18, 2012, 09:04:20 PM |
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I don't know fully what that picture says. If its about smoking bitcoin, then so far atleast ~100 people said, they got bitcoins. That means Nefrio didn't smoke bitcoins.
Or the picture has some other meaning?
Seems many who told received coins, didn't gave tx id or address. maybe don't want to show publicly.
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senor_coconut
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a big question mark
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October 18, 2012, 09:07:13 PM |
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I don't know fully what that picture says. If its about smoking bitcoin, then so far atleast ~100 people said, they got bitcoins. That means Nefrio didn't smoke bitcoins.
Or the picture has some other meaning?
Seems many who told received coins, didn't gave tx id or address. maybe don't want to show publicly.
no, exactly that . [rotfl]
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RHA
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October 18, 2012, 09:08:20 PM |
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Not quite the same script. The main point of start is here: http://blockchain.info/address/13H7si7r2VsoaDcESxZnweH18H939ndgZLThere begins a chain of 5000 BTC and 3762 BTC. The latter ends at: http://blockchain.info/address/12rebn6xb2VJt5YfMokUJvV4msdr7KohfG with amount of 1,058.54 BTC It was used today to the 1000 BTC chain with duplicates of part of the payments from 3762 BTC chain, but in different order. Sometimes the same address was used for supposedly different accounts, for instance: http://blockchain.info/address/19mvuvS2VgCWDtfGpsLnJAPhBp2ZcWM3xQ(two of its payments, 139+ and 421+ BTC, are not duplicated, but one, 55+ BTC, is). BTW: Bitcoin was meant to be anonymous.
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