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October 19, 2012, 04:36:10 AM
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I really hate that nefario isnt communicating at all. I dont know what he thinks doing this. Its plain stupid to let the rumors spread while he could explain everything simply.

But he is communicating.  He wants the people who got paid double to return the overpayment.   Wink

A lot of people would be better off keeping the overpayment than being able to claim their now worthless shares/bonds from asset issuers so I wish him good luck with trying to get people to honour his request.

Nefario appears to have been taking customer relations lessons from Patrick Strateman.

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October 19, 2012, 04:41:43 AM
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Does anyone who refuses to pay back the overpayment get the scammer tag?

Nefario, you should start a thread with a list of those that refuse to help.

First post since Sept 26th!
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October 19, 2012, 04:54:37 AM
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So, for anyone reading this who has gotten a double payment, the return address is 1BgPRMk4uaJrohM1T9Cn4Hd9pHaEL6FH5j

It would be better to return the coins without me having to chase you for them.

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October 19, 2012, 05:21:32 AM
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So i guess I am never getting my coins back since they are in someone else's wallet that is cool.

Stop spreading FUD nobody even believes you.  Roll Eyes
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October 19, 2012, 05:26:13 AM
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So i guess I am never getting my coins back since they are in someone else's wallet that is cool.

Stop spreading FUD nobody even believes you.  Roll Eyes

yo your a full member, no link and you posted it in off topic what did you think people were going to say

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October 19, 2012, 05:31:52 AM
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Does anyone who refuses to pay back the overpayment get the scammer tag?

Nefario, you should start a thread with a list of those that refuse to help.

First post since Sept 26th!
No they don't, there was a similar issue a while back. They might get on this list though. bitcoin-shitlist.com
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October 19, 2012, 05:37:11 AM
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So would we be right in assuming that no-one's going to authorise any salary payments to Nefario until this mess has been cleaned up and that the business will use its own remaining funds to top-up any shortfall if Nefario is unable to recover all the over-payments?

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October 19, 2012, 05:39:32 AM
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So would we be right in assuming that no-one's going to authorise any salary payments to Nefario until this mess has been cleaned up and that the business will use its own remaining funds to top-up any shortfall if Nefario is unable to recover all the over-payments?

Nefario will now get paid when hell freezes over  Smiley

I dont think the amount bitcoinglobal has will cover Nefario's latest fuckup, even without paying him. Of course he will still demand it.....

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October 19, 2012, 05:45:18 AM
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So, for anyone reading this who has gotten a double payment, the return address is 1BgPRMk4uaJrohM1T9Cn4Hd9pHaEL6FH5j

It would be better to return the coins without me having to chase you for them.

Just read it.

Should I return the full double payment, or take my 10% out of it?

Wouldn't it be better, to mail everyone who has gotten a double payment with a different address, so you can keep track of returned funds and who will get the 10% remaining?

Or will everyone get them no matter if he returns them and you just hope all people are honest (which the aren't).

I will return the funds, but I don't want to make you clusterfuck even worse (all returns in one address, some minus 10%, some full), so please send out a mail to all accounts with details.

Thank you.

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October 19, 2012, 05:54:48 AM
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How much did people get double paid?

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October 19, 2012, 06:16:57 AM
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Does anyone who refuses to pay back the overpayment get the scammer tag?

Nefario, you should start a thread with a list of those that refuse to help.

First post since Sept 26th!

Of course not, Nefario can say he sent x bitcoins to user Y and user Y can say they never received X bitcoins.  Who is everyone going to believe?

I hope this is enough to get BitcoinGlobal to fire Nefario from the CEO position.

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October 19, 2012, 07:15:53 AM
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I received an email on the 15th that 90% of my funds have been returned. As of today I've yet to receive anything.

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October 19, 2012, 07:30:21 AM
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So, for anyone reading this who has gotten a double payment, the return address is 1BgPRMk4uaJrohM1T9Cn4Hd9pHaEL6FH5j

It would be better to return the coins without me having to chase you for them.

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Lol. Without the threat (hypothetically, I didn't actually get paid, certainly not twice) I'd return them, but if he's going to be 'chasing' people I would use his coins to cover defense costs (running shoes?) since you are about as likely to get 'chased' if you pay or not, he doesn't know who sends coins to that address.

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October 19, 2012, 07:30:59 AM
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I received an email on the 15th that 90% of my funds have been returned. As of today I've yet to receive anything.

They didn't link you to transaction info? Roll Eyes

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October 19, 2012, 07:40:39 AM
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So, for anyone reading this who has gotten a double payment, the return address is 1BgPRMk4uaJrohM1T9Cn4Hd9pHaEL6FH5j

It would be better to return the coins without me having to chase you for them.

Just read it.

Should I return the full double payment, or take my 10% out of it?

Wouldn't it be better, to mail everyone who has gotten a double payment with a different address, so you can keep track of returned funds and who will get the 10% remaining?

Or will everyone get them no matter if he returns them and you just hope all people are honest (which the aren't).

I will return the funds, but I don't want to make you clusterfuck even worse (all returns in one address, some minus 10%, some full), so please send out a mail to all accounts with details.

Thank you.

In addition, you can't be sure that all double paid users read this thread, but you have the mail address of every user.

And again, I'm not sure if I should return all, or if that was supposed to be the 10% payout and I should only return 8/9 of it.

Also, I'm think that probably not all users will return the double payment and on how this whole closing process is working out, I really fear that it will end in something like:

"As double payments have not been returned, I will now keep the Stock information of those accounts until the funds have been returned."

This resulting in me to have to deal with proofing that I have returned the funds, even if I have currently no way to contact you but through this forum, which you seem to rarely check.

So please clarify and provide an easy Way to keep track of who returned the funds. (Like single Address for each account)

Each account has it's own GLBSE deposit address by the way. Why not use this one?

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October 19, 2012, 07:49:01 AM
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I received an email on the 15th that 90% of my funds have been returned. As of today I've yet to receive anything.

They didn't link you to transaction info? Roll Eyes

No. Did they for others?

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October 19, 2012, 07:53:25 AM
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Its not that hard to find who has returned & who hasn't.

He has receivers or members bitcoin address.
Just have to compare it with their GLBSE account, if he sent 90% or 180%.
If its 180%, then i assume he will force them to repay by not returning the assets they have in their GLBSE account.

His only reply after ~20+ days, shows some what aggressive & commanding, instead of requesting or asking or begging.

Since he so far didn't repay any asset issuers their bitcoin, & his commanding reply, shows he has some plans.
Maybe he will just transfer all shares & bonds to LEGAL exchange (Bitcoinglobal).
Coz already, most of the asset issuers identity is known, they cant runaway from government to hide their money, if they do anything illegal in respect to assets they issued.

So for asset issuers, the choice will be transfer all the assets in to new LEGAL exchange & continue business or default assets or get back assets.
Asset issuers cant default, coz it will affect their reputation & future.
Also, getting back assets, will affect their reputation & future business & they loose bitcoins (thats why, he didn't repay them).

So, no good/other way, but go in Nefario's way.
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October 19, 2012, 08:07:43 AM
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Isn't it necessary to fill out some complicated, intrusive forms and submit copies of your ID to someone you barely know in some other country before waiting a few weeks to receive a refund? I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

No, that was forum members making things up as they went along.

I don't know what you meant by this. Only after the forum outrage and legal threats, those intrusive requirements were removed. You had to submit a mugshot of yourself holding a piece of paper, along with your ID and proof of residence before that.

Its not that hard to find who has returned & who hasn't.

It only takes a couple of people to send odd amounts to make matching impossible. One could always claim they sent my 90% in pieces.
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October 19, 2012, 08:12:53 AM
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Its not that hard to find who has returned & who hasn't.
It only takes a couple of people to send odd amounts to make matching impossible. One could always claim they sent my 90% in pieces.
He has time & our money. Until, he convinced that they returned, he can hold assets & their dividends.
Or just take the bitcoins from dividends.
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October 19, 2012, 08:16:42 AM
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Since he so far didn't repay any asset issuers their bitcoin, & his commanding reply, shows he has some plans.

Probably some evil and convoluted one,like everything he's doing.  But to me, it shows one of the biggest A-holes I've seen in the last years.
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