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Question: Should doxing be banned?
Yes: it should be banned.
No: it shouldn't be banned.

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September 19, 2015, 04:08:59 AM
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What is doxing?

[Doxing] is the Internet-based practice of researching and broadcasting personally identifiable information about an individual.

From Wikipedia.

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September 19, 2015, 04:42:55 AM
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If there is no recourse to a botched doxing then it shouldn't be allowed IMO.
Since Polls are easily stacked, I didn't vote.

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September 19, 2015, 05:50:39 AM
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Think this is more a meta question than a Off topic question,you are bound to get some what trolled or flamed and it will alter the outcome.
Almost like phone surveys where only lonely people answer the phone to be surveyed.

For me the dox issues seems very invasive into ones private affairs,this being the internet I would want to have a little more of a wall between me and real life.
I choose not to be on facebook for that reason and I am sure others come at this with the same thinking. This is bitcoin after all!

Recall a time when I was a punk teenager and the police where coming around the house way to often to pretty much get in my kitchen.
Could see the toll it was taking on my mother and one night they came and took me for a ride and kicked the shit out of me and told me I could
leave town or they would trump up some charges against me. They did trump up some charges but fortunately for me I had moved on. It actually was a life changing moment but I will never forget how my mother looked when she saw me and it hit home that I was up to no good.
So I imagine if some one was to dox me she is that much older and it would most likely kill her. Thats my life and you have to think some of us have parents that are fragile as well and you are not just attacking the target you are attacking the whole family. Their co-workers come across the details and its out there for ever.
If I can not wear what I am dealing out to people,I rather not bark up that tree. Lifes to damn short and we need to think more broader when we think we are just hitting one target.
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September 19, 2015, 09:34:15 AM
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No. If the DOX (which it usually does) contains only information that is publicly available on search engines (your own fault), then it should not. Social security numbers and such get delete though.

t is not possible to effectively stop someone who is trying to DOX another member. They could create infinite amount of newbie accounts and keep posting it. They could leave their DOX information on their trust page which is not moderated either. Exactly how do you expect the staff to moderate this?


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September 19, 2015, 11:37:31 AM
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I think it should only get deleted but if somebodies actually being really persistent and trying to call for violence against an individual then that's probably the one case where I would consider a banning to be okay, people have a right to privacy, even if some people do behave like total scum.
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September 19, 2015, 12:02:39 PM
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The most important lesson to learn from people having their dox released is to protect your identity and info sufficiently. Having it posted on a forum is the least of your worries. IF some randomer on a bitcoin forum can find it then so can criminals and do much worse with it so you should make sure as much info about you is known as possible and minimize the possibility of any of it being leaked. Even if this forum does remove doxs its not going to stop them repeatedly posting it or posting it elsewhere so removing it is largely pointless any way.

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September 19, 2015, 12:45:37 PM
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No. If the DOX (which it usually does) contains only information that is publicly available on search engines (your own fault), then it should not.

So how do you propose to resolve situations such as Josh Zerlan using private information in their customer database to dox me, and then blatantly lying about it being public information.

A vendor. Now the subject of an FTC lawsuit. Doxing an upset customer.

Theymos shrugs.

Disclosure: Didn't vote in this poll.
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September 19, 2015, 01:29:37 PM
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So how do you propose to resolve situations such as Josh Zerlan using private information in their customer database to dox me, and then blatantly lying about it being public information.

A vendor. Now the subject of an FTC lawsuit. Doxing an upset customer.

Theymos shrugs.

Disclosure: Didn't vote in this poll.
Sorry, but I do not have a proposal that could work. We can not generalize anything and thus there are exceptions. If one could prove that that information can not be obtained by randomly using a search engine, then it should be removed and punished. You would have to take these things up higher as I can not do anything besides discuss or suggest potential changes. If there was a good way to effectively stop people from doing this, then the policy might change. As said, someone could be very persistent.
I also did not vote on the poll.


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September 19, 2015, 01:34:03 PM
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nope.
unless it contains explicit threats, else it must not be banned to prevent admin abuse (admin self-banning disaster).

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September 19, 2015, 01:38:56 PM
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I answered No, because if someone did very bad stuff to community, like TradeFortress, it should be publicly recognized, if not scammers will not stop being so.

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September 19, 2015, 01:55:08 PM
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i voted yes.
a dox should be made by law enforcement and not by forum users.

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September 19, 2015, 01:57:18 PM
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From what I know, theymos ban users who post his dox. I read it somewhere on the forum, don't ask me.

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September 19, 2015, 02:49:10 PM
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I would vote Yes. But then again who cares what we say man!

If you see something on the forum which you think is wrong but is allowed, learn to look away..

ps: didn't vote.

 

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September 19, 2015, 02:51:25 PM
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From what I know, theymos ban users who post his dox. I read it somewhere on the forum, don't ask me.

a global mod denied it in this topic:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183191.0

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September 19, 2015, 03:00:14 PM
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From what I know, theymos ban users who post his dox. I read it somewhere on the forum, don't ask me.
a global mod denied it in this topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183191.0

I quintuple-dog-dare you to post his dox, that are easily obtainable via Google, and see what happens.
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September 20, 2015, 09:20:05 AM
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... and right on cue ...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183191.msg12469748#msg12469748
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September 20, 2015, 09:36:50 AM
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I particularly don't like anyone doxing anyone so I voted yes, but shouldn't this topic be discussed in meta?
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September 20, 2015, 09:48:42 AM
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I particularly don't like anyone doxing anyone so I voted yes, but shouldn't this topic be discussed in meta?

Been told this multiple times now. I'll move to meta and mods can decide if it's off topic or not.
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September 20, 2015, 10:23:52 AM
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No. If the DOX (which it usually does) contains only information that is publicly available on search engines (your own fault), then it should not.

I've already proven that to be false, and the other thread has more than vehemently proven that admins will delete or shield their own doxes but not those of others, while maintaining the viewpoint that they do. pNote I say "admins" in the general context that we don't know who, or one or many, or some conspiracy or none at all. Don't go witch-hunting.]

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September 20, 2015, 10:27:49 AM
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Basically it should be banned but in some cases it can be done ,depending upon the context or situations.
[1] Practising of revealing ones personal identity by unknown people can let you in a offense.
[2] Can even lead to mass Falsehood , as the identity provided in dox don't need to be truth.
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