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December 04, 2018, 08:25:23 PM
Last edit: December 21, 2018, 03:20:41 PM by ICOEthics
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What happened: FAKE TEAM - Stealing people's identity

Scammers Profile Link:
ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079755.0
http://web.archive.org/web/20181204202006/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079755.0

ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2946037.0
http://web.archive.org/web/20181204204219/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2946037.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5087366.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086930.0

ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5081353.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5062829.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5083243.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5081817.0

ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5080408.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5082595.0



Scammer Website: http://www.showhand.io/
http://web.archive.org/web/20181204201953/http://www.showhand.io/



This project is using people's name and image without their consent





We contacted most of the team members today.

Here is the first reply. We should get more answers by tomorrow and will update this post.






ALSO:

This trade/exchange site is promoting listing them:
(edited 06/12/18)

ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079310.0
Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20181204205632/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079310.0

http://icoethics.com/imgs/showhand/p1.JPG




And the address of this trade website is this:

http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/ADD.JPG
(listed on their website)



Google street will take you here:

http://icoethics.com/imgs/other/ADD2.JPG (They posted a photo of their business)  (edited 06/12/18)

https://prnt.sc/lrcpwe






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December 05, 2018, 12:54:13 PM
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Hello, I explained this fact with ShowHand team. The all team members are from China. They were promised to be associated with ShowHand. But currently China government is cracking down on digital money, and many of our original consultants are in the fair of securities. Now want to divide the boundaries with encrypted digital currencies. ShowHand telegram channel has 55k members but they aren't active in the group chat because China govt also banned telegram along with ICO. I hope, you all understood the fact. All of the team members listed in website are promised to join the team but due to the new policies in China they all didn't join in the team.
So please research more about ShowHand & kindly delete the post. Or if you have any curiosity to know about this fact more, then please join in our telegram channel & duscuss with the team admins.
ShowHand telegram Channel----> @showhandofficial
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December 06, 2018, 06:42:16 AM
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we are legal
google review : http://prntscr.com/lrcpwe
https://www.facebook.com/NusaExchange/photos/a.634778913552855/712814475749298/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/NusaExchange/photos/a.634778913552855/712814532415959/?type=3&theater

maybe google still not update the map. you can see the date taken.


we are not related with SHOWHAND we just exchange, and listing some coin.
we will investigate if a scam is indicated so we will do a delist


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December 06, 2018, 12:59:50 PM
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we are legal
google review : http://prntscr.com/lrcpwe
https://www.facebook.com/NusaExchange/photos/a.634778913552855/712814475749298/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/NusaExchange/photos/a.634778913552855/712814532415959/?type=3&theater

maybe google still not update the map. you can see the date taken.


we are not related with SHOWHAND we just exchange, and listing some coin.
we will investigate if a scam is indicated so we will do a delist


Thanks

Hello

Thank you for sending an image of your business. We updated our post above.

As far as Showhand, as you see above, Jochen said that he is not part of the team.

There is no need to prove that the whole team is not part of a project.

The message received from him is enough to categorize this project as a scam for the reason of using people's image/name without their permission.


Thank you.

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Another evidence that this scammer stole people's identity for their scam.




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December 21, 2018, 04:27:22 PM
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From the desk of Plagiarize Much?:

http://www.showhand.io/ShowHand%20Whitepaper_Eng%20v1.1%201.26.2018.pdf


https://pocket-wp.com/crypto_assets/SWM/explanations/1820fafaeb005d09


Translated: Currently China government is cracking down on digital money, and many of our original content are is on hold ... So please research more about ShowHand & kindly delete the post. Or if you have any curiosity to know about this fact more, then please join in our plagiarized channel & duscuss [sic] with the anonymous team admins.

Not sure but the last time I duscussed ... wait for it ... I gained a stroke.

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There are so many threads created by this scammer. Maybe a moderator should delete/suspend some of them and also give the poster a red tag.
We contacted a few more "team member" and we are waiting for an answer. But at this point, we already got two replies saying they are not part of the team. It is an obvious scam.

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There are so many threads created by this scammer. Maybe a moderator should delete/suspend some of them and also give the poster a red tag.
We contacted a few more "team member" and we are waiting for an answer. But at this point, we already got two replies saying they are not part of the team. It is an obvious scam.
You are going up to the next level here on spotting ICO scams in the forum, you have done ways I never thought I'll do myself when it comes to checking whether or not an ICO is a scam. The good thing about this one is me and the other members here are also learning on how to spot scams in other methods. BTW Have you also tried reporting the thread to a moderator using the "report to moderator" function? I know they can do some action ones they know that the ANN thread is from a scamcoin.

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December 23, 2018, 07:27:38 PM
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There are so many threads created by this scammer. Maybe a moderator should delete/suspend some of them and also give the poster a red tag.
We contacted a few more "team member" and we are waiting for an answer. But at this point, we already got two replies saying they are not part of the team. It is an obvious scam.
You are going up to the next level here on spotting ICO scams in the forum, you have done ways I never thought I'll do myself when it comes to checking whether or not an ICO is a scam. The good thing about this one is me and the other members here are also learning on how to spot scams in other methods. BTW Have you also tried reporting the thread to a moderator using the "report to moderator" function? I know they can do some action ones they know that the ANN thread is from a scamcoin.

Yes, we have done in the past. And after a few reports, a moderator contacted us and said that unfortunately scams are not moderated! So, us reporting to a moderator about a scam would not do any good. DT can tag them, and a moderator can delete some duplicate threads for what we have seen so far. But still, the forum admins need to do more about scams, such as BAN the scammers and lock their thread once proved.  In this interview we mentioned about that lack of moderation.
https://medium.com/talkbitcointalk/as-a-crypto-community-we-have-a-responsibility-to-protect-its-moral-foundation-a378ece19a29

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December 23, 2018, 07:40:39 PM
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Yes, we have done in the past. And after a few reports, a moderator contacted us and said that unfortunately scams are not moderated! So, us reporting to a moderator about a scam would not do any good. DT can tag them, and a moderator can delete some duplicate threads for what we have seen so far. But still, the forum admins need to do more about scams, such as BAN the scammers and lock their thread once proved.  In this interview we mentioned about that lack of moderation.
https://medium.com/talkbitcointalk/as-a-crypto-community-we-have-a-responsibility-to-protect-its-moral-foundation-a378ece19a29
I have to agree with you but unfortunately rule changes that you are looking for are not easy to be applied since the forum admins are also busy in other matters and I haven't seen any rule/forum change since the merit system was introduced particularly when the 1 merit requirement for Jr. Members was set. What do need to happen is to rely heavily on DT members tagging accounts related to ICO scams in order to prevent as much damage as possible, also what you are doing on posting warnings on their ANN thread is a good enough way to let other members know that they are a scam. Good Job man. Keep it up!!!!

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