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November 16, 2015, 02:40:34 AM
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If it is that cold out, I would let the cold air seep in and allow the room not to have any hear access.  By doing this, you will make the room ourside and it will assist in the cold without being in the cold.  You could also place a dehumidifier in the room which will allow you to make the room as dry as possible, however I still feel you will have an issue with condensation on the heat sinks of the units.



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November 17, 2015, 02:53:50 AM
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If it is that cold out, I would let the cold air seep in and allow the room not to have any hear access.  By doing this, you will make the room ourside and it will assist in the cold without being in the cold.  You could also place a dehumidifier in the room which will allow you to make the room as dry as possible, however I still feel you will have an issue with condensation on the heat sinks of the units.

In the winter, if you leave your miner at home, it will heat the room and raise the temperature. the higher temperature will make the air less humid. You do  not need a dehumidifier.
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November 17, 2015, 07:53:44 AM
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If it is that cold out, I would let the cold air seep in and allow the room not to have any hear access.  By doing this, you will make the room ourside and it will assist in the cold without being in the cold.  You could also place a dehumidifier in the room which will allow you to make the room as dry as possible, however I still feel you will have an issue with condensation on the heat sinks of the units.

In the winter, if you leave your miner at home, it will heat the room and raise the temperature. the higher temperature will make the air less humid. You do  not need a dehumidifier.

Yes, I also thought that condensation on the heat sinks of the units will not happen, because of the high temperature AND constantly working fans.

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November 17, 2015, 02:55:10 PM
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I guess it could be a very good idea if you put them in your garage. At least inside the garage you will not have to bother with humidity and snow, but you will still be able to have them cooled and with a bigger lifespan.
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November 21, 2015, 06:19:06 AM
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fit the psu and miner into a suitable perspex box drill holes in the lid for you wires to come out, fit barb fittings into the side wall, at least one in one out (depends on a pump setup) seal the box. install pump hoses and radiator with water proof fans. fill the sealed box with mineral oil.

your hardware wont get wet if it is submerged in oil  Grin
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November 21, 2015, 07:27:05 PM
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I say, use a cheap mining system and give it a shot.  You can listen to a number of people on what you can do and there are a number of advise comments I would take into consideration, but just try it and see what happens.  You never know until you try, right.

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November 23, 2015, 10:42:30 PM
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ron7684 is right. You are not only dealing with moisture but also dust. You're saying that condensation won't be a problem, but you're thinking of a working miner under constant load. If the miner disconnects and the temperature goes down it will appear.

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November 24, 2015, 08:02:10 AM
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ron7684 is right. You are not only dealing with moisture but also dust. You're saying that condensation won't be a problem, but you're thinking of a working miner under constant load. If the miner disconnects and the temperature goes down it will appear.

I agree. In case of disconnection you'll have moisture covering your miner inside and out. Since some details inside don't meant to be covered with water you might have a problem.

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December 02, 2015, 04:36:01 PM
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professional expensive electronics is covered in lacque that prevent corrosion and some resistance against moisture.



however these cheap  things don't have that and they are designed for indoor operation
read the manual
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December 02, 2015, 06:20:48 PM
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professional expensive electronics is covered in lacque that prevent corrosion and some resistance against moisture.



however these cheap  things don't have that and they are designed for indoor operation
read the manual

Look into bitcoin miners they were meant to be ran indoors.  And for almost everyone that works good.  It would rise costs of all miners who knows how much if they made them moisture proof... and most put it inside.

So putting outside is just a bad idea.  I know someone will say but I made a box!  I just think moisture is hard to keep out, and it kills macines.  So leave machines indoors where they belong.
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December 02, 2015, 11:43:02 PM
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I have to S7 running on the same setup. running for 2 weeks now with outside temp 10 to -2 with no problems.
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December 03, 2015, 12:36:02 AM
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I have to S7 running on the same setup. running for 2 weeks now with outside temp 10 to -2 with no problems.

witch temp shows your miner, and whats the hashrate, because I figured out today, that if the them is under 36°C then the performance goes down and with an them at 59 I had the best hashrate.

I develop atm an custom firmware for the S7 Miners (all batches), so that we have more options to set and also throwing some stupid messages out of the cgminer, an setting specific values for the fans.

Register at https://www.zwilla.de the first 50 users will get it for free, and all others have to pay 0,05btc  Grin
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December 03, 2015, 07:27:43 AM
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I have to S7 running on the same setup. running for 2 weeks now with outside temp 10 to -2 with no problems.

witch temp shows your miner, and whats the hashrate, because I figured out today, that if the them is under 36°C then the performance goes down and with an them at 59 I had the best hashrate.

I develop atm an custom firmware for the S7 Miners (all batches), so that we have more options to set and also throwing some stupid messages out of the cgminer, an setting specific values for the fans.

Register at https://www.zwilla.de the first 50 users will get it for free, and all others have to pay 0,05btc  Grin

that is strange, every HW is known to work better with lower temperature, and 36 is still high, chipset should equal to a cpu and cpu give the best at lowest temp for OC for example

it's the same for GPU, threfore it should be the same for asic
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December 05, 2015, 03:16:03 PM
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I doubt that connecting wires may become brittle in some time.
But for sure you ll get good performance on lower temperatures.

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December 05, 2015, 05:43:25 PM
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Hey why would you want to put it outside ?  Use it to heat your house, voila, problem solved ?  If noise is a problem, there are ways to deal with that.

                                 
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December 05, 2015, 08:21:30 PM
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Hey why would you want to put it outside ?  Use it to heat your house, voila, problem solved ?  If noise is a problem, there are ways to deal with that.

I think it is noise for a lot of people.  There are some miners that just run hot and loud.  Running hot is not a bad thing in winter.

But I think it's the noise of some of them that is the issue.  Could also be they have a outlet outside on a different breaker.  Maybe overloading one rooms breaker with miners and other items.

But I agree outside is not a good solution.
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December 06, 2015, 11:11:52 AM
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ron7684 is right. You are not only dealing with moisture but also dust. You're saying that condensation won't be a problem, but you're thinking of a working miner under constant load. If the miner disconnects and the temperature goes down it will appear.

If the miners disconnects for some time, there will be condensation. So you have to take it into home to dry and move it out again.
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December 06, 2015, 02:03:02 PM
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For my small setup, I open the windows and allow the cold are to come into the basement if the miners get 'heated'

For OC'ing this has really helped out this winter


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December 06, 2015, 10:21:28 PM
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For my small setup, I open the windows and allow the cold are to come into the basement if the miners get 'heated'

For OC'ing this has really helped out this winter



That is much better then outside solution.  You get the cool air.  But if it's going to raiin/snow or moisture you can close window. 

So I like this much more then the idea of leaving a miner outdoors.  I'm no fan of outside.
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December 06, 2015, 10:36:11 PM
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You should be aware that by placing the miners outside can damage the hardware, the same is with the laptop putting in fridge, it will damage the screen. Better open the door or the window for few hours if you can afford it.

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