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September 26, 2015, 08:48:32 AM
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I initiated a bitcoin transaction with zero fees.It was successfully pushed in the blockchain but did't get confirmed.After,few days I saw the transaction status as :
Transaction rejected by our node. Reason: Transaction was previously accepted but has been pruned from our database.

Tx details : https://blockchain.info/tx/33d7f0de4826a24d18fcc81e799960812df3e47d104f6ef66534249b240605ce

And it is not credited back into my account.Where did it go? Can I get those coins back?
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September 26, 2015, 09:00:31 AM
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And it is not credited back into my account.Where did it go? Can I get those coins back?

When a transaction has disappeared from the unconfirmed mempool, the transaction is "cancelled". So the coins has never left your address/wallet. Your wallet client still thinks the transaction is pending confirmation and deduced the sent coins from your balance. What you need to tell your client to "forget" the transaction and refresh the balance.

Which wallet/client do you use?
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September 26, 2015, 09:56:41 AM
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And it is not credited back into my account.Where did it go? Can I get those coins back?

When a transaction has disappeared from the unconfirmed mempool, the transaction is "cancelled".

Blockchain.info is a service, is a service, is a service, is a service and - repeat with me - not the blockchain[1]. Whatever they claim about a transaction may or may not have anything to do with the rest of the network. More often than not the information they display is in contrast to the rest of the network and I would always check with at least one different blockchain explorer.

-> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/33d7f0de4826a24d18fcc81e799960812df3e47d104f6ef66534249b240605ce

The TX was in double spend a day after it was issued -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/a0527492e033153e823b99577e0bcc6a58d9111771916fae0c8fefa90e0a4b05

which caused it to be "cancelled".

So the coins has never left your address/wallet.

Since the double spend TX has >1700 confirmations I think we are safe to say that the coins left OPs wallet.

Your wallet client still thinks the transaction is pending confirmation and deduced the sent coins from your balance. What you need to tell your client to "forget" the transaction and refresh the balance.

Which wallet/client do you use?

Good question.

[1] Sorry for know it all post, but if you rely on bc.i you will eventually make bad decision because you have incomplete information.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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September 26, 2015, 10:33:10 AM
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I would always check with at least one different blockchain explorer.

[1] Sorry for know it all post, but if you rely on bc.i you will eventually make bad decision because you have incomplete information.

I understand, but I don't use blocktrail.com. I checked both blockr.io AND blockexplorer.com. Both of them don't have the tx. Try it yourself.
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September 26, 2015, 12:37:31 PM
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I would always check with at least one different blockchain explorer.

[1] Sorry for know it all post, but if you rely on bc.i you will eventually make bad decision because you have incomplete information.

I understand, but I don't use blocktrail.com. I checked both blockr.io AND blockexplorer.com. Both of them don't have the tx. Try it yourself.
Blockchain.info prune transactions if they have low fees or doesn't meet some criteria. Other block explorers don't. Blocktrail stores transactions that are double spends.

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September 26, 2015, 01:33:49 PM
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And it is not credited back into my account.Where did it go? Can I get those coins back?

When a transaction has disappeared from the unconfirmed mempool, the transaction is "cancelled".

Blockchain.info is a service, is a service, is a service, is a service and - repeat with me - not the blockchain[1]. Whatever they claim about a transaction may or may not have anything to do with the rest of the network. More often than not the information they display is in contrast to the rest of the network and I would always check with at least one different blockchain explorer.

-> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/33d7f0de4826a24d18fcc81e799960812df3e47d104f6ef66534249b240605ce

The TX was in double spend a day after it was issued -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/a0527492e033153e823b99577e0bcc6a58d9111771916fae0c8fefa90e0a4b05

which caused it to be "cancelled".

So the coins has never left your address/wallet.

Since the double spend TX has >1700 confirmations I think we are safe to say that the coins left OPs wallet.

Your wallet client still thinks the transaction is pending confirmation and deduced the sent coins from your balance. What you need to tell your client to "forget" the transaction and refresh the balance.

Which wallet/client do you use?

Good question.

[1] Sorry for know it all post, but if you rely on bc.i you will eventually make bad decision because you have incomplete information.

so i lost them bcoz i used blockchain.info a a service?
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September 26, 2015, 02:18:28 PM
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And it is not credited back into my account.Where did it go? Can I get those coins back?

When a transaction has disappeared from the unconfirmed mempool, the transaction is "cancelled".

Blockchain.info is a service, is a service, is a service, is a service and - repeat with me - not the blockchain[1]. Whatever they claim about a transaction may or may not have anything to do with the rest of the network. More often than not the information they display is in contrast to the rest of the network and I would always check with at least one different blockchain explorer.

-> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/33d7f0de4826a24d18fcc81e799960812df3e47d104f6ef66534249b240605ce

The TX was in double spend a day after it was issued -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/a0527492e033153e823b99577e0bcc6a58d9111771916fae0c8fefa90e0a4b05

which caused it to be "cancelled".

So the coins has never left your address/wallet.

Since the double spend TX has >1700 confirmations I think we are safe to say that the coins left OPs wallet.

Your wallet client still thinks the transaction is pending confirmation and deduced the sent coins from your balance. What you need to tell your client to "forget" the transaction and refresh the balance.

Which wallet/client do you use?

Good question.

[1] Sorry for know it all post, but if you rely on bc.i you will eventually make bad decision because you have incomplete information.

so i lost them bcoz i used blockchain.info a a service?
No. Using blockchain.info as a service or wallet is okay but is not reliable due to their poor track record. Your inputs were returned to your wallet as if they were never spent, as majority the node's mempool dropped your transaction. You then spent the inputs here. You might have spent the inputs when they appeared to be unspent, do you remember spending them? Could you answer what wallet you use?

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September 26, 2015, 02:31:30 PM
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I have never seen the coins come back.It was send to the piiko service.I use blockchain.info online wallet.
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September 26, 2015, 03:17:20 PM
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I would always check with at least one different blockchain explorer.

[1] Sorry for know it all post, but if you rely on bc.i you will eventually make bad decision because you have incomplete information.

I understand, but I don't use blocktrail.com. I checked both blockr.io AND blockexplorer.com. Both of them don't have the tx. Try it yourself.

Again, sorry. Blockchain.info starts to get to me.

I have never seen the coins come back.It was send to the piiko service.I use blockchain.info online wallet.

The essence of my post above is that you got your coins back within 30 hours and used them in this[1] transaction. Since you should be the only person to have access to your wallet I think its safe to assume that you used the coins for something else and nothing is missing. If the balance of your wallet is somehow not correct you should connect bc.i's support and ask them to clear this up.

[1] https://blockchain.info/tx/a0527492e033153e823b99577e0bcc6a58d9111771916fae0c8fefa90e0a4b05

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