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October 03, 2015, 05:30:24 PM
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Following on from the Trust list visualisations thread and the ethics consultation thread, I've decided to release the analysis of a tool which may be able to identify multiple accounts which belong to the same owner. While some of the results are statistically significant, this should still only constitute one piece of evidence of a link between accounts.

The methodology is less important than the output, which can be confirmed and visualised manually.
  • The addition of "DefaultTrust" is excluded and not counted
  • Trust lists with only "DefaultTrust" (unedited) are not included
  • The polarity of ratings is taken into account
  • Certain users like KWH have giant trust lists and so they break the system a bit. Should be excluded

Along with potentially linked accounts, the list below has 2 numerical metrics attached:
  • Complexity: A measure of how complicated the trust lists being looked at are. The scale is a bit weird in this version, starting at 0.3 for 1 item and going up by 0.3 for each additional item
  • Similarity: A measure of how similar trust lists between the users are. 1.0 = identical lists, anything below 0.8 is discarded for now but there are many positive results from this range to be reviewed later.

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October 03, 2015, 05:30:28 PM
Last edit: October 04, 2015, 07:35:13 PM by dogie
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Below is a highly filtered list of the first batch of information. Notes:
  • I may provide a dump of all information at some point (100s and 100s of matches), but I want to be sure this won't be used to witchhunt the low probability links.
  • The below was manually checked however weird ones might still have gone through.
  • Based off 12th Sept trust dump, simply because its the one I already had loaded. Results are unlikely to change.
  • Data isn't being spat out in a nice form so formatting will look meh for now. I'll add in some of my other table codes in time.
  • The current version outputs in pairs, and so a 3+ way identification would appear as A|B, B|C over two lines
  • Manually moved blocks of names together
  • Each name in the trust list denominated with an &

Person APerson BSimilarityComplexityPerson A's Trust ListPerson B's Trust List
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
.....Really?megahash0.844.66neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&neg_Vod&neg_starsoccer9&PatMan&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&IY…
&IYFTech&neg_iglasses&neg_bbeesley&neg_s0br&cathoderay&neg_ThePhwner&neg_instaha
neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&neg_Vod&neg_BadBear&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_hashcoins…
ins&neg_s0br&cathoderay&neg_ThePhwner&neg_Quickseller&neg_fire000&mavericklm
IYFTechmegahash0.934.81neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&neg_SebastianJu&neg_Vod&neg_BadBear&neg_starsoccer9&squ…
squall1066&PatMan&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_hashcoins&Spondoolies-Tech&neg_s0br&
neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&neg_Vod&neg_BadBear&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_hashcoins…
ins&neg_s0br&cathoderay&neg_ThePhwner&neg_Quickseller&neg_fire000&mavericklm
bartokjogebe0.823.01Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
bartoklgtx0.862.70Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
bartoknomtka0.972.85Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx&bartok
bartokteddy220.803.16Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
jogebeKujmandosz0.963.01Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn&malev&nomt…
omtka&bartok
jogebelgtx0.963.01Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
jogebenolanglenn0.862.25Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&malev&bartok
jogebeteddy220.973.46Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
nolanglennnomtka0.872.10Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&malev&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx&bartok
Kujmandoszlgtx0.882.70RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn&malev&nomt…
omtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Kujmandosznomtka0.852.85RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn&malev&nomt…
omtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx&bartok
Kujmandoszteddy220.943.16RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn&malev&nomt…
omtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
lgtxnolanglenn0.881.95Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&malev&bartok
lgtxnomtka0.972.85Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx&bartok
lgtxteddy220.943.16Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
Cryptogurujogebe0.902.55Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&coinmester1995&bearcat10&nolanglenn&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
Cryptogurulgtx0.932.25Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&coinmester1995&bearcat10&nolanglenn&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Cryptogurunomtka0.912.40Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&coinmester1995&bearcat10&nolanglenn&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx&bartok
Cryptoguruteddy220.892.70Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&coinmester1995&bearcat10&nolanglenn&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
bbithashie1.000.60neg_Vod&neg_Blazrneg_Vod&neg_Blazr
bitcoinbearPeter Lambert0.900.75Peter Lambert&MPOE-PR&BCBMPOE-PR&BCB
bitzoxfuruknap0.911.50theymos&John (John K.)&Jutarul&MPOE-PR&burnside&TradeFortress&ThickAsThievesJohn (John K.)&MPOE-PR&burnside
daggermanleevalle0.910.75haploid23&Bitcoins101haploid23&Bitcoins101&coory
DogecoinDarkForkeningTheThreadReporter0.920.75neg_pc888&neg_bitLeap&neg_fosco333neg_bitLeap&neg_fosco333
DragooonEquate1.000.60escrow.ms&americandesiescrow.ms&americandesi
BitcoinPlusBusMarketMagic0.931.80mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&jjmv&logocreatormammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis
egghead123MarketMagic0.832.25mdtspain&mammix2&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis&Indic…
dicators
mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis
fydeljadefalke0.801.80Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototypfydel&Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&Prototyp
godmode3DJohnStyles1.001.20neg_ACCTseller&neg_Quickseller&adzino&jorgelugraneg_ACCTseller&neg_Quickseller&adzino&jorgelugra
HolgerDanskPatSNL0.882.55opentoe&philipma1957&Bicknellski&klondike_bar&neg_dogie&sidehack&Stratobitz&c…
z&cathoderay&pekatete&neg_Muhammed Zakir&neg_Quickseller
Bicknellski&neg_dogie&sidehack&Stratobitz&cathoderay&pekatete
jddebugKIDC0.871.50Luke-Jr&abracadabra&GenTarkin&wknight&elgreco&KIDC&nairb131abracadabra&GenTarkin&wknight
k2_1971TheEvilOne0.900.75awgilyas&ArcticWolfieawgilyas&ArcticWolfie&k2_1971
KSSyRenity0.985.87HostFat&dooglus&Maged&gmaxwell&bitpop&Carnth&OgNasty&CanaryInTheMine&John (Jo…
(John K.)&Tomatocage&SaltySpitoon&ineededausername&DeaDTerra&BadBear&burnside&es
HostFat&dooglus&Maged&gmaxwell&bitpop&Carnth&OgNasty&CanaryInTheMine&John (Jo…
(John K.)&Tomatocage&SaltySpitoon&ineededausername&DeaDTerra&BadBear&burnside&es
mltasksolidvip0.951.05neg_Tomatocage&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclopsneg_Tomatocage&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclops&CPNpr
CPNprmltask0.823.16neg_Vod&neg_Tomatocage&Antuam&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclops&neg_randombit&neg_BrianM&…
nM&neg_Memminger&neg_quasimodo&neg_PolyCoin-Team&solidvip&RentCute.com&Susi.D&ne
neg_Tomatocage&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclops
HaembiMota0.8515.65sirius&theymos&HostFat&Gavin Andresen&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus…
lus&grue&Maged&MemoryDealers&Kluge&evoorhees&rb1205&jwzguy&paci&Carnth&TECSHARE&
sirius&theymos&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus&Carnth&TECSHARE&Caesium&dilatedPi…
dPixel&phantastisch&paraipan&danieldaniel&pekv2&Ukyo&SaltySpitoon&ineededauserna
Motascalar330.9013.69sirius&theymos&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus&Carnth&TECSHARE&Caesium&dilatedPi…
dPixel&phantastisch&paraipan&danieldaniel&pekv2&Ukyo&SaltySpitoon&ineededauserna
sirius&theymos&HostFat&Gavin Andresen&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus…
lus&Maged&Kluge&rb1205&paci&Carnth&TECSHARE&Caesium&tysat&dilatedPixel&Graet&Mic
mrflibblehatZirconPool1.000.60htp_23&blueshibehtp_23&blueshibe
onemorebtconemorexmr0.916.62jgarzik&Pieter Wuille&Luke-Jr&gmaxwell&evoorhees&smooth&TECSHARE&-ck&neg_smoo…
moothie&Vod&John (John K.)&Tomatocage&DeathAndTaxes&BadBear&Blazr&DannyHamilton&
theymos&jgarzik&Pieter Wuille&Luke-Jr&dooglus&gmaxwell&smooth&TECSHARE&OgNast…
asty&-ck&neg_smoothie&Vod&John (John K.)&neg_Tomatocage&DeathAndTaxes&BadBear&ne
Pokokohua!Pry4u0.891.65Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&Inaba&gmaxwell&BFL&BFL_JoshInaba&BFL&BFL_Josh
Pokokohua!SLok0.891.65Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&Inaba&gmaxwell&BFL&BFL_JoshInaba&BFL&BFL_Josh
Pry4uSLok1.000.90Inaba&BFL&BFL_JoshInaba&BFL&BFL_Josh
RaizeU1TRA_L0RD0.895.11Keefe&casascius&John (John K.)&ngzhang&legolouman&xiangfu&gateship&serp&sahka…
hkan&last2stand
theymos&Keefe&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&casascius&Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&S…
d&Stemby&ziomik&John (John K.)&ercolinux&ngzhang&legolouman&xiangfu&diego1000&ga

Person APerson BSimilarityComplexityPerson A's Trust ListPerson B's Trust List
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
cathoderaylobogil0.764.51CanaryInTheMine&neg_Vod&neg_starsoccer9&neg_DiamondCardz&PatMan&neg_sdp&Bickn…
cknellski&neg_dogie&IYFTech&neg_ghash.io&neg_CEX&neg_crilleaz&neg_s0br&pekatete&
neg_Vod&neg_BadBear&neg_sdp&neg_dogie&neg_s0br&neg_ThePhwner&neg_ACCTseller&n…
r&neg_Quickseller&neg_fire000
blarneystonep3yot33at3r0.696.92neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&eleuthria&-ck&kano&Xian01&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_AMT…
AMT_miners&neg_rikkie&neg_hashcoins&cathoderay&pekatete&neg_ThePhwner&neg_Quicks
neg_Luke-Jr&Matt Corallo&neg_Inaba&eleuthria&phelix&-ck&neg_Vod&kano&philipma…
pma1957&Bicknellski&neg_marto74&neg_dogie&domob&FallingKnife&neg_AMT_miners&neg_
IYFTechPatMan0.568.57neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&neg_SebastianJu&neg_Vod&neg_BadBear&neg_starsoccer9&squ…
squall1066&PatMan&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_hashcoins&Spondoolies-Tech&neg_s0br&
neg_Inaba&eleuthria&gmaxwell&scribe&-ck&yxt&Mjbmonetarymetals&MrTeal&neg_Diam…
iamondCardz&squall1066&piit79&Easy2Mine&cupofsoup&Bicknellski&hotwired007&edgar&
FreekiieeL3pje0.791.95p_wetsteijn&alphapilot&L3pje&corp&Destrega&KoningSilkp_wetsteijn&alphapilot&corp&Freekiiee&Destrega&KoningSilk&bitspender
ercolinuxziomik0.764.36HostFat&rb1205&paci&Stemby&ziomik&Cripto&marnem&palatinetheymos&HostFat&wariner&rb1205&paci&Stemby&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&bitcoin…
oinplaza&ZuonKing&bertani&Cripto&alexrossi&Pitchotto&androz&gdassori&ghibly79&ma
fydelHermann13370.762.10Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototypfydel&crzr&Sy&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp&ltcsharenet
Hermann1337jadefalke0.762.10fydel&crzr&Sy&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp&ltcsharenetfydel&Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&Prototyp
Hermann1337Sy0.762.10fydel&crzr&Sy&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp&ltcsharenetXer0&fydel&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
baby222scarsbergholden0.761.35qwep&Argwai96&marcotheminer&Cryptockqwep&Argwai96&baby222&Cryptock&jonson234
bitcoinplazaHostFat0.764.66theymos&HostFat&paci&Stemby&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&bertanitheymos&dooglus&gmaxwell&rb1205&paci&neg_CanaryInTheMine&Stemby&ziomik&neg_Vo…
_Vod&ercolinux&BadBear&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Cripto&gdassori&ghibly79&
fydelPrototyp0.762.25Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototypfydel&blizzen&Sy&AizenSou&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&ltcsharenet
jadefalkePrototyp0.762.25fydel&Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&Prototypfydel&blizzen&Sy&AizenSou&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&ltcsharenet
aikunsatudezoel0.751.35dezoel&Punggawa&lakepopo&(0_0)izanagi&Punggawa&lakepopo&(0_0)&aikunsatu
Prototypvertoe0.748.42fydel&blizzen&Sy&AizenSou&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&ltcsharenetfydel&blizzen&Pago85&iHeartSmartArt&FreedomCoin&oaxaca&Sy&rdnkjdi&BrainShutdo…
tdown&atomicchaos&mikaelh&losh11&smtn512&bertlebbert&tombtc&kiindje&AizenSou&spl
BitcoinPlusBusegghead1230.741.95mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&jjmv&logocreatormdtspain&mammix2&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis&Indic…
dicators
androzbitcoinplaza0.743.31paci&Stemby&yxt&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Stunna&alexr…
exrossi&serge79&ghibly79&palatine
theymos&HostFat&paci&Stemby&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&bertani
VERUMinNUMERISVlad2Vlad0.736.77markm&frobley&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&…
er&IXC2XIC&mrcashking&SolomonRising
satoshi&Gavin Andresen&markm&Oldminer&twobits&Nasakioto&kelsey&Stunna&edgar&a…
r&ahmed_bodi&Jdtmp4&shakezula&deadsea33&iGotSpots&AZIZ1977&VERUMinNUMERIS&r3wt&a
DRKLorddrkprincess0.722.702dogs&BitcoinPappi&LouReed&cooldgamer&notserp&theonewhowaskazu&Interized&vert…
ertoe&turtlehurricane&jamesbond700&xXBEVOXx&drkprincess
2dogs&BitcoinPappi&notserp&vertoe&xXBEVOXx&DRKLord
SolomonRisingVlad2Vlad0.726.92satoshi&markm&Oldminer&Nasakioto&frobley&kelsey&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&VERUMinNU…
nNUMERIS&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&IXC2XIC
satoshi&Gavin Andresen&markm&Oldminer&twobits&Nasakioto&kelsey&Stunna&edgar&a…
r&ahmed_bodi&Jdtmp4&shakezula&deadsea33&iGotSpots&AZIZ1977&VERUMinNUMERIS&r3wt&a
blizzenfydel0.723.31SebastianJu&yxt&qwk&mameise&Haeralith&fronti&bitcats&Akka&Sy&Aggrophobia&dark…
arkfriend77&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
bitdanielfrelex0.721.352weiX&John (John K.)&candoo&Menig2weiX&John (John K.)&Tomatocage&Akka&Menig
cinnamon_carterphoton_coin0.712.85satoshi&dreamwatcher&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&fedde&photon_coin&chiguireitor&m…
r&mmpool&electron-coin&mrbodi&lithiumc
dreamwatcher&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&cinnamon_carter&chiguireitor&mmpool&elec…
lectron-coin&mrbodi
Stembyziomik0.715.26HostFat&rb1205&paci&ziomik&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi…
ssi&androz&marnem&palatine&davvo
theymos&HostFat&wariner&rb1205&paci&Stemby&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&bitcoin…
oinplaza&ZuonKing&bertani&Cripto&alexrossi&Pitchotto&androz&gdassori&ghibly79&ma
androzZuonKing0.712.85paci&Stemby&yxt&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Stunna&alexr…
exrossi&serge79&ghibly79&palatine
HostFat&paci&ziomik&diego1000&ghibly79
StembyZuonKing0.702.85HostFat&rb1205&paci&ziomik&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi…
ssi&androz&marnem&palatine&davvo
HostFat&paci&ziomik&diego1000&ghibly79
jadefalkevertoe0.707.97fydel&Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&Prototypfydel&blizzen&Pago85&iHeartSmartArt&FreedomCoin&oaxaca&Sy&rdnkjdi&BrainShutdo…
tdown&atomicchaos&mikaelh&losh11&smtn512&bertlebbert&tombtc&kiindje&AizenSou&spl
palatineStemby0.703.46HostFat&Stemby&ziomik&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi&androz&marnem&LairewHostFat&rb1205&paci&ziomik&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi…
ssi&androz&marnem&palatine&davvo
jleeflynishtrip150.692.85OgNasty&Cray-1&Inglewood&monbux&nahtnam&firejuan&jamiecruickshank&death_hawk&…
wk&Coinbuddy&cr4sh0verride&firepredator&thealtcoinguy
Cray-1&Inglewood&jamiecruickshank&death_hawk&firepredator&matt2matt&markus8539
ArcticWolfieTheEvilOne0.691.05awgilyas&arielbit&k2_1971&TheEvilOneawgilyas&ArcticWolfie&k2_1971
PRabruneks0.691.95Gavin Andresen&jgarzik&casascius&Pieter Wuille&goatpig&gmaxwell&etotheipiGavin Andresen&jgarzik&Pieter Wuille&JoelKatz&etotheipi&friedcat
HostFatZuonKing0.694.21theymos&dooglus&gmaxwell&rb1205&paci&neg_CanaryInTheMine&Stemby&ziomik&neg_Vo…
_Vod&ercolinux&BadBear&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Cripto&gdassori&ghibly79&
HostFat&paci&ziomik&diego1000&ghibly79
Hermann1337Prototyp0.672.55fydel&crzr&Sy&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp&ltcsharenetfydel&blizzen&Sy&AizenSou&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&ltcsharenet
SolomonRisingVERUMinNUMERIS0.673.46satoshi&markm&Oldminer&Nasakioto&frobley&kelsey&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&VERUMinNU…
nNUMERIS&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&IXC2XIC
markm&frobley&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&…
er&IXC2XIC&mrcashking&SolomonRising
ercolinuxStemby0.663.31HostFat&rb1205&paci&Stemby&ziomik&Cripto&marnem&palatineHostFat&rb1205&paci&ziomik&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi…
ssi&androz&marnem&palatine&davvo
DragonDmGitraxe0.660.90itraxe&Eugenok&vanyabiosEugenok&DragonDmG&vanyabios
twbtyxt0.661.50phantastisch&qwk&fronti&Akka&lassdas&Neupleuqwk&fronti&Akka&rage1337
harlemxhashcoins0.631.50Killa&n00ber&hashcoinsharlemx&Killa&n00ber&oomi0010&Umberg&johny08&1DanieL
IXC2XICVlad2Vlad0.636.77theymos&Tomatocage&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&shakezula&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&VERUMinNUM…
NUMERIS&Dexter44&iampingu&KeyserSozeMC
satoshi&Gavin Andresen&markm&Oldminer&twobits&Nasakioto&kelsey&Stunna&edgar&a…
r&ahmed_bodi&Jdtmp4&shakezula&deadsea33&iGotSpots&AZIZ1977&VERUMinNUMERIS&r3wt&a
corpFreekiiee0.631.35p_wetsteijn&L3pje&Freekiieep_wetsteijn&alphapilot&L3pje&corp&Destrega&KoningSilk
einsteinium.bizOldminer0.635.41Oldminer&djnocide&Armis&einsteiniumneg_dooglus&edric&elkrisi&neg_jackjack&Moray&fhh&neg_aa&Vlad2Vlad&VERUMinNUME…
UMERIS&bitdigger2013&Redcoin&neg_Spoetnik&IXC2XIC&z21770179&IronMarvel&mrlotto&b
corpL3pje0.621.50p_wetsteijn&L3pje&Freekiieep_wetsteijn&alphapilot&corp&Freekiiee&Destrega&KoningSilk&bitspender
fydelSy0.621.80Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&PrototypXer0&fydel&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
jadefalkeSy0.621.80fydel&Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&PrototypXer0&fydel&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
bitcoinplusorgMarketMagic0.622.70satoshi&Eric&SunnyKing&mindfox&mdtspain&dasource&mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&j…
b&jjmv&logocreator
mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis
CJBiancoLesbian Cow0.616.02smoothie&Scott J&dozerz&bigtimespaghetti&BG4&monkeynuts&miffman&saveawedge&ma…
&master-P&TookDk&Mitchełł&cyclops&Blazedout419&FiniteByDesign&hilariou
OgNasty&TookDk&djjacket&cyclops&Blazedout419&snarlpill&TheAnalogKid
TookDkwheresmycoin0.602.25PsychoticBoy&philipma1957&escrow.ms&monkeynuts&master-P&tyrion70&Mitcheł…
22;ł&djjacket&Blazedout419&iglasses&CryptoImperator&neg_WoodCollector
bigtimespaghetti&CryptoImperator&WoodCollector
eneloopPaintShopPro60.601.05CanaryInTheMine&SebastianJu&SilentSonicBoomCanaryInTheMine&iluvpcs&SilentSonicBoom&vnhyp0
dobbscoinEndCiv0.600.60EndCiv&Robert_Doriandobbscoin&Robert_Dorian
PaintShopPro6vnhyp00.591.50CanaryInTheMine&iluvpcs&SilentSonicBoom&vnhyp0CanaryInTheMine&iluvpcs&SilentSonicBoom&TracerX&babaji.ca&PaintShopPro6
DRKLordshadowhax0.592.402dogs&BitcoinPappi&LouReed&cooldgamer&notserp&theonewhowaskazu&Interized&vert…
ertoe&turtlehurricane&jamesbond700&xXBEVOXx&drkprincess
BitcoinPappi&notserp&jbreen1&turtlehurricane
komodovpnmrflibblehat0.590.90jeffersonairplane&Bryce1733&htp_23&ACCTsellerhtp_23&blueshibe
komodovpnZirconPool0.590.90jeffersonairplane&Bryce1733&htp_23&ACCTsellerhtp_23&blueshibe
PrototypSy0.592.25fydel&blizzen&Sy&AizenSou&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&ltcsharenetXer0&fydel&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
cinnamon_carterlithiumc0.582.70satoshi&dreamwatcher&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&fedde&photon_coin&chiguireitor&m…
r&mmpool&electron-coin&mrbodi&lithiumc
satoshi&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&cinnamon_carter&photon_coin&BlakeBitcoin&elec…
lectron-coin
abracadabrajddebug0.571.50wknight&jddebug&KIDCLuke-Jr&abracadabra&GenTarkin&wknight&elgreco&KIDC&nairb131
lithiumcphoton_coin0.572.25satoshi&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&cinnamon_carter&photon_coin&BlakeBitcoin&elec…
lectron-coin
dreamwatcher&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&cinnamon_carter&chiguireitor&mmpool&elec…
lectron-coin&mrbodi
luv2drnkbrMicon0.572.10theymos&Gavin Andresen&FreeMoney&casascius&evoorhees&Micon&FassadeGavin Andresen&FreeMoney&casascius&dooglus&evoorhees&iCEBREAKER&MsBitcoin
blarneystonePatSNL0.563.61neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&eleuthria&-ck&kano&Xian01&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_AMT…
AMT_miners&neg_rikkie&neg_hashcoins&cathoderay&pekatete&neg_ThePhwner&neg_Quicks
Bicknellski&neg_dogie&sidehack&Stratobitz&cathoderay&pekatete
Breen2543rouf5530.561.35rouf553&rig007&cryptomaker22Wardrick&cryptostore07&Breen2543&rig007&cryptomaker22&Online24o0n
palatineziomik0.564.51HostFat&Stemby&ziomik&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi&androz&marnem&Lairewtheymos&HostFat&wariner&rb1205&paci&Stemby&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&bitcoin…
oinplaza&ZuonKing&bertani&Cripto&alexrossi&Pitchotto&androz&gdassori&ghibly79&ma
KIDCwknight0.553.16abracadabra&GenTarkin&wknightruss&JWU42&strombom&heinz&abracadabra&GenTarkin&juggalodarkclow&jddebug&elgre…
greco&KIDC&RoboCoder&chynnc&terrapinflyer&hayseed&insanetackle&DaveF&Coopster888
abracadabrawknight0.553.16wknight&jddebug&KIDCruss&JWU42&strombom&heinz&abracadabra&GenTarkin&juggalodarkclow&jddebug&elgre…
greco&KIDC&RoboCoder&chynnc&terrapinflyer&hayseed&insanetackle&DaveF&Coopster888
2501algorista0.542.10andrehorta&DanielBTC&algorista&duduqa&Adrianosatoshi&theymos&ThiagoCMC&pafu&rudrigorc2&andrehorta&2501&DanielBTC&duduqa
bitcoinplusorgegghead1230.542.85satoshi&Eric&SunnyKing&mindfox&mdtspain&dasource&mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&j…
b&jjmv&logocreator
mdtspain&mammix2&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis&Indic…
dicators
ArcticWolfieawgilyas0.541.50awgilyas&arielbit&k2_1971&TheEvilOneBitweasil&DebitMe&SilentSonicBoom&ArcticWolfie&k2_1971&TheEvilOne
androzStemby0.544.21paci&Stemby&yxt&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Stunna&alexr…
exrossi&serge79&ghibly79&palatine
HostFat&rb1205&paci&ziomik&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi…
ssi&androz&marnem&palatine&davvo
alexr_96SUPERANTONIO0.521.35jaime&VEscudero&LuisCar&ioxoi&Antuam&SUPERANTONIOflix&LuisCar&Antuam
Coiner.dephantastisch0.524.66stellan0r&phantastisch&Akka&trepex&Zephirtheymos&molecular&stellan0r&tysat&SebastianJu&yxt&qwk&neg_Matthew N. Wright&J…
t&John (John K.)&Tomatocage&neg_candoo&BadBear&frank600&fhh&Akka&neg_Freedom24&C
androzarulbero0.513.16paci&Stemby&yxt&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Stunna&alexr…
exrossi&serge79&ghibly79&palatine
HostFat&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Pitchotto&mars78&ghibly79
IXC2XICVERUMinNUMERIS0.503.31theymos&Tomatocage&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&shakezula&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&VERUMinNUM…
NUMERIS&Dexter44&iampingu&KeyserSozeMC
markm&frobley&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&…
er&IXC2XIC&mrcashking&SolomonRising
DiThiReCat0.501.20theymos&Rassah&Wolf0&ReCatedd&Rassah&DiThi&Wolf0
le4chnationTRICHED0.500.60TRICHED&NUMORPHONEle4chnation&NUMORPHONE
NUMORPHONETRICHED0.500.60TRICHED&le4chnationle4chnation&NUMORPHONE
malevnolanglenn0.890.90Kujmandosz&RaymondKaKujmandosz&RaymondKa&malev&bartok
Haembiscalar330.8619.41sirius&theymos&HostFat&Gavin Andresen&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus…
lus&grue&Maged&MemoryDealers&Kluge&evoorhees&rb1205&jwzguy&paci&Carnth&TECSHARE&
sirius&theymos&HostFat&Gavin Andresen&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus…
lus&Maged&Kluge&rb1205&paci&Carnth&TECSHARE&Caesium&tysat&dilatedPixel&Graet&Mic
ahmed_bodiahmedbodi0.812.55westkybitcoins&Jdtmp4&krasnyoktyabr&coinerd&sumantso&Vlad2Vlad&r3wt&ahmedbodi…
odi&fishy&majsta&gary492&bitezze&coinbloke&saxman717&mrbodi
ahmed_bodi&mrbodi
BitcoinPlusBusbitcoinplusorg0.882.40mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&jjmv&logocreatorsatoshi&Eric&SunnyKing&mindfox&mdtspain&dasource&mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&j…
b&jjmv&logocreator
nolanglennteddy220.862.40Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&malev&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
resUnioCShrishti0.841.95neg_Vod&neg_Blazr&neg_arallmuus&neg_JorgeStolfi&CoinFriend&neg_deluxeCITY&neg…
neg_Quickseller&Shrishti&Sr.Vamp&neg_costgranda&neg_jorgelugra
CoinFriend&Sr.Vamp
Cryptogurumalev0.851.20Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&coinmester1995&bearcat10&nolanglenn&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa
lgtxmalev0.831.65Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa
bartokmalev0.831.65Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa
traslatwbt0.881.35phantastisch&qwk&Akkaphantastisch&qwk&fronti&Akka&lassdas&Neupleu

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Last edit: October 04, 2015, 08:29:21 PM by dogie
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This list is considered low probability. It really doesn't mean much without a lot of other information in order to confirm a link.

Person APerson BSimilarityComplexityPerson A's Trust ListPerson B's Trust List
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CPNprsolidvip0.623.31neg_Vod&neg_Tomatocage&Antuam&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclops&neg_randombit&neg_BrianM&…
nM&neg_Memminger&neg_quasimodo&neg_PolyCoin-Team&solidvip&RentCute.com&Susi.D&ne
neg_Tomatocage&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclops&CPNpr
bitcoinplazaZuonKing0.751.95theymos&HostFat&paci&Stemby&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&bertaniHostFat&paci&ziomik&diego1000&ghibly79
MiningBuddynimda0.741.20CanaryInTheMine&BadBitcoin (James Sutton)dooglus&John (John K.)&Bees Brothers&BadBitcoin (James Sutton)&IveBeenBit&Kouye
CyberRatJansen2270.720.90PsychoticBoy&Jouke&MitchełłPsychoticBoy&dnaleor&Mitchełł
djcoinTak0.672.85Gavin Andresen&Luke-Jr&Carnth&SebastianJu&-ck&Vod&John (John K.)&kano&Tomatoc…
tocage&Xian01&burnside&crashoveride54902&klondike_bar
theymos&Gavin Andresen&gmaxwell&-ck&kano&burnside
Shadow_RunnerXVzN0.670.90neg_xetsr&sandy-is-finenish2011&jaydipm&sandy-is-fine&kenscho
galbrosmicky1230.662.25dooglus&Stunna&dogedice.metheymos&dooglus&Vod&Tomatocage&BadBear&omahapoker&antonlevay&dogedice.me&Samp…
amperio&neg_SarcasmMe&neg_detective2015&v1rtu0so
danielpbarronpummle0.663.61nanotube&davout&Stephen Gornick&kakobrekla&Azelphur&pankkake&Immuzikation&dpb…
dpb&GlooBoy&MPOE-PR&BCB&TheButterZone&Atruk&nubbins&fluffypony&railzand&NotLambc
davout&Tomatocage&MPOE-PR&BCB&ThickAsThieves&fluffypony
Foofighterthomashrev890.661.95allinvain&PsychoticBoy&Akka&puffmais&intron&blackarrow&Menig&paul3&itxtutor&c…
r&cscape
friedcat&intron&cscape
maxpowerPolyatomic0.652.10CanaryInTheMine&John (John K.)&Entropy-uc&JCDentonGraet&CanaryInTheMine&John (John K.)&Maidak&dadj&Augusto Croppo&pidge&J.Socal…
cal&Entropy-uc&QuiveringGibbage
bitcoinplazaU1TRA_L0RD0.634.81theymos&HostFat&paci&Stemby&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&bertanitheymos&Keefe&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&casascius&Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&S…
d&Stemby&ziomik&John (John K.)&ercolinux&ngzhang&legolouman&xiangfu&diego1000&ga
KouyeMuhammed Zakir0.6310.38Maged&tysat&jackjack&malevolent&Vod&Tomatocage&SaltySpitoon&MPOE-PR&DannyHami…
amilton
satoshi&sirius&theymos&Gavin Andresen&neg_Luke-Jr&dooglus&Maged&gmaxwell&tysa…
ysat&dserrano5&OgNasty&-ck&jackjack&malevolent&neg_JoelKatz&paraipan&Vod&John (J
Korbmanlnternet0.621.20theymos&lightboxlightbox&TwinWinNerD&Craftyman&DeathAndTaxes&quarzazatete&djingodjango
frontitrasla0.621.50gmaxwell&2weiX&yxt&qwk&Akka&sacko&twbtphantastisch&qwk&Akka
AtrukPeter Lambert0.601.65Gavin Andresen&kakobrekla&Micon&pankkake&greyhawk&rini17&MPOE-PR&DannyHamilto…
lton&ThickAsThieves
MPOE-PR&BCB
ahmedbodiVERUMinNUMERIS0.561.95ahmed_bodi&mrbodimarkm&frobley&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&…
er&IXC2XIC&mrcashking&SolomonRising
aminorexeizh0.553.01Anon136&dooglus&gmaxwell&smooth&tacotime&rpietila&David Latapie&fluffypony&Bi…
&BitChick&xulescu&eizh&othe&NoodleDoodle&papa_lazzarou&CTTE&GingerAle
smooth&fluffypony&jayaitch&NoodleDoodle
alka66ZuonKing0.551.65HostFat&paci&ziomik&MirkoIta&alexrossi&cryptobtcxHostFat&paci&ziomik&diego1000&ghibly79
elasticbandWeppel0.552.70Mabsark&bbxx&friedcat&PsychoticBoy&Rampion&corrow&michaelangelo&600watt&EnJoy…
JoyThis&gidi337&btcapparel&stevenf&aphorise&Fireblade&MisterLG
PsychoticBoy&EnJoyThis&elasticband
DrahogErusielEl Extranjero0.541.80TECSHARE&John (John K.)&Mushroomized&SaltySpitoon&dozerz&lukemarshall&The 4ne…
4ner&Nightowlace&El Extranjero&jakedeez
The 4ner&DrahogErusiel
edn247neleonele0.541.20Biomech&presstab&cecilbdementedthundertoe&Biomech&batesresearch&presstab&shavers
DiThiedd0.531.35theymos&Rassah&Wolf0&ReCatSgtSpike&Rassah&Phinnaeus Gage&DeathAndTaxes&ReCat
hamza171sorryforthat0.531.35alani123&shdvb&ChiliPowder&CoolRunnings21&QuicksellerOgNasty&BadBear&ChiliPowder&Quickseller
PurePwnageSusi.D0.521.20neg_Blazr&neg_aa&neg_MRKLYEneg_Vod&neg_MRKLYE&neg_goodnightcoin&neg_ABitNut&neg_Bitcoin-Police
albertinarulbero0.851.35mars78&ghibly79HostFat&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Pitchotto&mars78&ghibly79
IndicatorsMarketMagic0.851.35egghead123&logocreatormammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis
BitcoinPlusBusIndicators0.871.05mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&jjmv&logocreatoregghead123&logocreator
albertinkelpy0.861.05mars78&ghibly79alexrossi&mars78&ghibly79&marnem&Anon39
thedreamertranscyberian0.890.90philipma1957&727minerstarsoccer9&philipma1957&727miner&nicehash
CyberRatdnaleor0.930.75PsychoticBoy&Jouke&MitchełłPsychoticBoy&Mitchełł
bitcoinplusorgIndicators0.831.95satoshi&Eric&SunnyKing&mindfox&mdtspain&dasource&mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&j…
b&jjmv&logocreator
egghead123&logocreator
mrmuellertrasla0.861.80phantastisch&SebastianJu&qwk&mameise&Akka&Aggrophobia&trepex&Menig&darkfriend77phantastisch&qwk&Akka


Visualisation of the 1st and 2nd batches of names:
  • Red'er names = larger potential alt network
  • blue'er = smaller protential alt network
  • Red edges (joining lines) = stronger trust list association
  • blue = weak trust list association

 

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I won't post in the other thread to say that I support this (since it would be a useless post) and you've already posted the tool. The analysis and system used is actually very interesting to say at least. This might also be the tipping stone in some cases where it was already 'probable' that X was alt of Y.
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Trust lists with only "DefaultTrust" (unedited) are not included
Let me get this straight, so users without edited lists are completely excluded? I used to have an alt (I doubt that anyone besides an admin even knew about it) with a unedited list. This means that you could to identify that account as my probable alt, correct?

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The question is how accurate this analysis is?
it may get some legit users in problem also, how it was done and what is its accuracy
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Person APerson BSimilarityComplexityPerson A's Trust ListPerson B's Trust List
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Pokokohua!Pry4u0.891.65Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&Inaba&gmaxwell&BFL&BFL_JoshInaba&BFL&BFL_Josh
Pokokohua!SLok0.891.65Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&Inaba&gmaxwell&BFL&BFL_JoshInaba&BFL&BFL_Josh
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October 03, 2015, 05:57:01 PM
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The question is how accurate this analysis is?
it may get some legit users in problem also, how it was done and what is its accuracy

It's simply a tool. I doubt that any real alt-finding will be on the sole basis of this proof; it'll be more like another small evidence bit that accompanies more substantial proof.

I won't post in the other thread to say that I support this (since it would be a useless post) and you've already posted the tool. The analysis and system used is actually very interesting to say at least. This might also be the tipping stone in some cases where it was already 'probable' that X was alt of Y.
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Let me get this straight, so users without edited lists are completely excluded? I used to have an alt (I doubt that anyone besides an admin even knew about it) with a unedited list. This means that you could to identify that account as my probable alt, correct?

From what I understand, if your alt has an unedited list (just DefaultTrust in it), then the tool will exclude your alt.
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I won't post in the other thread to say that I support this (since it would be a useless post) and you've already posted the tool. The analysis and system used is actually very interesting to say at least. This might also be the tipping stone in some cases where it was already 'probable' that X was alt of Y.
Yeah I think that's the main use of this. "Hmm just scambusted that guy, lets see if he could still be floating about".

Let me get this straight, so users without edited lists are completely excluded? I used to have an alt (I doubt that anyone besides an admin even knew about it) with a unedited list. This means that you could to identify that account as my probable alt, correct?
I could NOT identify your alt if it had just "DefaultTrust" in its trust list. Accounts with an unedited trust list aren't included in the trustlist dump Theymos provides.


The question is how accurate this analysis is?
it may get some legit users in problem also, how it was done and what is its accuracy
As I said in the other thread, the methodology isn't important on this one as you can do a human check across the two trust lists (I've added a shortened version alongside). Its as accurate as you want it to be and could be entirely useless in some cases but pretty strong in others.

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Along with potentially linked accounts, the list below has 2 numerical metrics attached:
  • Complexity: A measure of how complicated the trust lists being looked at are. The scale is a bit weird in this version, starting at 0.3 for 1 item and going up by 0.3 for each additional item
  • Similarity: A measure of how similar trust lists between the users are. 1.0 = identical lists, anything below 0.8 is discarded for now but there are many positive results from this range to be reviewed later.

Do you consider incoming trust as well as outgoing?

If someone is 'farming' trust, they will probably be leaving positive trust on multiple alts at a time. Recognising such patterns could maybe make your tool stronger.

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Do you consider incoming trust as well as outgoing? If someone is 'farming' trust, they will probably be leaving positive trust on multiple alts at a time. Recognising such patterns could maybe make your tool stronger.

No it doesn't although its worth remembering this is trust lists, not trust ratings. Being trusted by multiple people is hard to factor in although it could be used as an end stage check to see if accounts are cross trusting each other.

For the time being I'll be working on visualisation and automation of the interpretation so I don't have to manually review 1,000s of them.

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re. "Data isn't being spat out in a nice form so formatting will look meh for now. I'll add in some of my other table codes in time."
You mentioned using Excel to generate this? If so, could you dump/export this to Google Docs, formulas & all?  
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Just to make sure we are on the same page. This is a measure how similar peoples trust lists are as well as a measure how large (as in complex) the average trust list between the two is. complexity(A,B) := [Count(A)*.3 + Count(B)*.3] / 2

It does however not - assuming here, please correct me if Im wrong - take into account how likely it is for someone to end up on a given trust list in the first place. From the trust.txt I downloaded just a few minutes ago I see that - as expected - certain users are more often on someones list than others. You have a top list for this as well IIRC in your other thread. E.g. theymos is on 170 different trust lists, dogie on 34.

I also cant follow the premise that a person would use an identical (or very similar) trust list over multiple accounts.

To sum it up, what makes you draw the conclusion that similarity of trust lists has anything to do with alt accounts?
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re. "Data isn't being spat out in a nice form so formatting will look meh for now. I'll add in some of my other table codes in time."
You mentioned using Excel to generate this? If so, could you dump/export this to Google Docs, formulas & all?  

I meant that the final data the analysis spits out isn't neccesarily interpretable or useful for humans straight away and requires a significant amount of post processing. Turning it from Excel into forum code isn't a problem, I have plenty of translators from my PSU / company table based guides I can reuse.

There's quite a lot of manual work and some Excel only add-ons which would prevent Google Doc replication, but results could be published there. I'm still reluctant to dump a raw list without forcing a 'reasonable' interpretation on the information, I don't want this list to be weaponised.

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Just to make sure we are on the same page. This is a measure how similar peoples trust lists are as well as a measure how large (as in complex) the average trust list between the two is. complexity(A,B) := [Count(A)*.3 + Count(B)*.3] / 2
The closest thing you'll find to this is the Jaccard index.

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You take two sample sets. You count the attributes shared by both samples (call this Z). You count the attributes observed in only one sample (call this X). You then count the attributes observed in only the other sample (call this Y). Finally, you can calculate the similarity index by using the three counts in this operation: Z / (Z+X+Y).


It does however not - assuming here, please correct me if Im wrong - take into account how likely it is for someone to end up on a given trust list in the first place. From the trust.txt I downloaded just a few minutes ago I see that - as expected - certain users are more often on someones list than others. You have a top list for this as well IIRC in your other thread. E.g. theymos is on 170 different trust lists, dogie on 34.
It does not, that's why I'm manually screening anything I release at the moment, there are plenty of "strong correlation" results I filtered out because they're common results. Depending on how much time I invest in this, I may filter out some of the top people altogether.


I also cant follow the premise that a person would use an identical (or very similar) trust list over multiple accounts.
They do, because for anyone not in DefaultTrust (99% of people), the only utilisation for their trust list is to show who's ratings they want to see. And regardless of which account they're using those preferences generally remain constant.


To sum it up, what makes you draw the conclusion that similarity of trust lists has anything to do with alt accounts?
Past experience.

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Though bbit did not initially belong to hashie. It was bought.

I also cant follow the premise that a person would use an identical (or very similar) trust list over multiple accounts.
They do, because for anyone not in DefaultTrust (99% of people), the only utilisation for their trust list is to show who's ratings they want to see. And regardless of which account they're using those preferences generally remain constant.
x LoLz... no.

To sum it up, what makes you draw the conclusion that similarity of trust lists has anything to do with alt accounts?
Past experience.
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Okay so now you've basically proven there are people abusing the DT, what's next?


Are you going to next tell us that people are wrongfully removed from DT because they speak out against injustice?


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Just to make sure we are on the same page. This is a measure how similar peoples trust lists are as well as a measure how large (as in complex) the average trust list between the two is. complexity(A,B) := [Count(A)*.3 + Count(B)*.3] / 2
The closest thing you'll find to this is the Jaccard index.

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You take two sample sets. You count the attributes shared by both samples (call this Z). You count the attributes observed in only one sample (call this X). You then count the attributes observed in only the other sample (call this Y). Finally, you can calculate the similarity index by using the three counts in this operation: Z / (Z+X+Y).

Thanks for that.

It does however not - assuming here, please correct me if Im wrong - take into account how likely it is for someone to end up on a given trust list in the first place. From the trust.txt I downloaded just a few minutes ago I see that - as expected - certain users are more often on someones list than others. You have a top list for this as well IIRC in your other thread. E.g. theymos is on 170 different trust lists, dogie on 34.
It does not, that's why I'm manually screening anything I release at the moment, there are plenty of "strong correlation" results I filtered out because they're common results. Depending on how much time I invest in this, I may filter out some of the top people altogether.

Which could be argued to bring in bias since it relies on your perspective and past experiences.

I also cant follow the premise that a person would use an identical (or very similar) trust list over multiple accounts.
They do, because for anyone not in DefaultTrust (99% of people), the only utilisation for their trust list is to show who's ratings they want to see. And regardless of which account they're using those preferences generally remain constant.


To sum it up, what makes you draw the conclusion that similarity of trust lists has anything to do with alt accounts?
Past experience.

It did not for Quickseller and the (now known) alt, just to name one example of someone with a hidden alt and a highly modified trust list.

There are different ways to get the same result and only the direct copy would be noticable by your reasearch. Additionally for those that actively try to hide their alts its very easy to manipulate their list in such a way that they no longer end up over 0.8 or any other limit for that matter.
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It does however not - assuming here, please correct me if Im wrong - take into account how likely it is for someone to end up on a given trust list in the first place. From the trust.txt I downloaded just a few minutes ago I see that - as expected - certain users are more often on someones list than others. You have a top list for this as well IIRC in your other thread. E.g. theymos is on 170 different trust lists, dogie on 34.
It does not, that's why I'm manually screening anything I release at the moment, there are plenty of "strong correlation" results I filtered out because they're common results. Depending on how much time I invest in this, I may filter out some of the top people altogether.
Which could be argued to bring in bias since it relies on your perspective and past experiences.
If 2 people both have Theymos, John K and BadBear in their lists, the correlation would be 100% but it doesn't tell us anything about the relationship between the two accounts because its so common. The current version doesn't weight based on frequency yet so it needs manual filtering.


There are different ways to get the same result and only the direct copy would be noticable by your reasearch. Additionally for those that actively try to hide their alts its very easy to manipulate their list in such a way that they no longer end up over 0.8 or any other limit for that matter.
The more you ask about the algorithm the easier it is to game, but as you'll see in later releases its no where near as easy as you're making it out to be to mask your list if you want it to be functional. The last batch I processed last night used ratings as low as 0.5 and there are plenty of strong correlations down there, so a future run will take even more. I also set maximum matches to 5 thinking most of these guys wouldn't have more than 5 but there are plenty already hitting that boundary.

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It did not for Quickseller and the (now known) alt, just to name one example of someone with a hidden alt and a highly modified trust list.

There are different ways to get the same result and only the direct copy would be noticable by your reasearch. Additionally for those that actively try to hide their alts its very easy to manipulate their list in such a way that they no longer end up over 0.8 or any other limit for that matter.

I don't see any reason to use more then one trust list across multiple accounts, at least no legit reason. (one possible reason would be to make someone look more trustworthy or less trustworthy then they really are). If I want to see someone's trust score using QS's trust list then I will look at their profile from QS, and if I want to see their trust score with DefaultTrust then I will look at their profile from an alt.

The only time that I would modify the trust list of an alt account would be for testing purposes to look at someone's trust list/trust network. This is now somewhat of a moot reason because the entire trust network is published every Friday night (EST, Saturday morning GMT).

This kind of research could be used to monitor for scammers who are attempting to farm trust, as many trust farmers tend to ask for both trust feedback and to be added to other's trust lists.

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Which could be argued to bring in bias since it relies on your perspective and past experiences.
If 2 people both have Theymos, John K and BadBear in their lists, the correlation would be 100% but it doesn't tell us anything about the relationship between the two accounts because its so common. The current version doesn't weight based on frequency yet so it needs manual filtering.

I agree that some additions to a trust list might be common while others are not, my point was that it brings bias if you alone decide it what is common and what not.

There are different ways to get the same result and only the direct copy would be noticable by your reasearch. Additionally for those that actively try to hide their alts its very easy to manipulate their list in such a way that they no longer end up over 0.8 or any other limit for that matter.
The more you ask about the algorithm the easier it is to game, but as you'll see in later releases its no where near as easy as you're making it out to be to mask your list if you want it to be functional. The last batch I processed last night used ratings as low as 0.5 and there are plenty of strong correlations down there, so a future run will take even more. I also set maximum matches to 5 thinking most of these guys wouldn't have more than 5 but there are plenty already hitting that boundary.

What if I told you that I did not post this yesterday because I was pondering whether or not I should post how to easily game your analysis, but still see identical trust ratings? I have not gambled for a while, would you be willing to make it a small bet?
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Which could be argued to bring in bias since it relies on your perspective and past experiences.
If 2 people both have Theymos, John K and BadBear in their lists, the correlation would be 100% but it doesn't tell us anything about the relationship between the two accounts because its so common. The current version doesn't weight based on frequency yet so it needs manual filtering.
I agree that some additions to a trust list might be common while others are not, my point was that it brings bias if you alone decide it what is common and what not.
The alternative is posting uninterpreted data which pretty much suggests everyone = everyone to some degree, which will include things like BadBear = everyone, Theymos = everyone etc etc which is pointless. That's only going to be used as a weapon to attack people. I post the trust lists (truncated to I think 160 characters) alongside any potential matches so you yourself can decide if you think its a match or not.


There are different ways to get the same result and only the direct copy would be noticable by your reasearch. Additionally for those that actively try to hide their alts its very easy to manipulate their list in such a way that they no longer end up over 0.8 or any other limit for that matter.
The more you ask about the algorithm the easier it is to game, but as you'll see in later releases its no where near as easy as you're making it out to be to mask your list if you want it to be functional. The last batch I processed last night used ratings as low as 0.5 and there are plenty of strong correlations down there, so a future run will take even more. I also set maximum matches to 5 thinking most of these guys wouldn't have more than 5 but there are plenty already hitting that boundary.

What if I told you that I did not post this yesterday because I was pondering whether or not I should post how to easily game your analysis, but still see identical trust ratings? I have not gambled for a while, would you be willing to make it a small bet?
I don't really understand your point. This analysis isn't meant to be the "no one can have an invisible ult account ever again" system, its simply used to unearth several 100 of them already in existence. Most of which are used for evil purposes.

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What if I told you that I did not post this yesterday because I was pondering whether or not I should post how to easily game your analysis, but still see identical trust ratings? I have not gambled for a while, would you be willing to make it a small bet?
I don't really understand your point. This analysis isn't meant to be the "no one can have an invisible ult account ever again" system, its simply used to unearth several 100 of them already in existence. Most of which are used for evil purposes.

Maybe I just expected more than similarities between trust lists. Its certainly interesting work, I just dont think it can do what you suggest. On the other hand I might not have the background to judge the significance.
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What if I told you that I did not post this yesterday because I was pondering whether or not I should post how to easily game your analysis, but still see identical trust ratings? I have not gambled for a while, would you be willing to make it a small bet?
I don't really understand your point. This analysis isn't meant to be the "no one can have an invisible ult account ever again" system, its simply used to unearth several 100 of them already in existence. Most of which are used for evil purposes.

Maybe I just expected more than similarities between trust lists. Its certainly interesting work, I just dont think it can do what you suggest. On the other hand I might not have the background to judge the significance.

Its an analysis of trust lists, its not magical Tongue That being said if I had access to other forum data I'm sure it could get exponentially more accurate. Have a look at some of the batch 2's I've released, lots of alts.

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Added batch 2, including some lower tier results. These should generally be ignored in isolation although can often identify some outliers to an existing alt network. Also added a visualisation of the first 2 batches of results.

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Though bbit did not initially belong to hashie. It was bought.

Hmm I dont know about that... I don't think bbit was bought. I was the one who outed hashie originally and most evidence I've seen points to hashie and bbit being two separate individuals.

Glancing through this list I see a few other accounts that I know for sure aren't alts. Nice idea but it isn't very accurate at all. Maybe you aren't thinking about this the right way, take a look at this one:

ahmedbodiVERUMinNUMERIS0.561.95ahmed_bodi&mrbodimarkm&frobley&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&…
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I would think that ahmed_bodi and mrbodi would more likely be alts of ahmedbodi rather than VERUMinNUMERIS.

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Hmm I dont know about that... I don't think bbit was bought. I was the one who outed hashie originally and most evidence I've seen points to hashie and bbit being two separate individuals.
If they are 2 separate individuals then they are associated, which is what this analysis highlights.


Glancing through this list I see a few other accounts that I know for sure aren't alts. Nice idea but it isn't very accurate at all.
Glancing through the list will of course highlight names you say aren't alts, that doesn't mean the other 97% aren't associated in some way.


Maybe you aren't thinking about this the right way, take a look at this one:
I would think that ahmed_bodi and mrbodi would more likely be alts of ahmedbodi rather than VERUMinNUMERIS.
You're looking in the really low association table which doesn't mean much. The higher association table already highlighted that ahmedbody = ahmed_bodi, and mrbodi isn't in the data because it has an unedited trust list. VERUMinNUMERIS is already strongly associated with 3 other accounts so its more than possible its the same person controlling them all.

So in conclusion the analysis identified: 2 alt accounts with likely the same owner, 4 alt accounts with likely the same owner, and potentially a link between the two sets. I'd call that a success (see the diagram).

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October 05, 2015, 02:10:01 PM
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There is a danger here, that this analysis is identifying 'communities' within bitcoin rather than alts

for example - TookDK / Wheresmycoin

Both I know well. Both I have bought and sold physical crypto coins from and to. Live on opposite sides of the world. Not alts.

But are both keen physical crypto currency buyers / sellers / collectors. One example of a very niche community who buy / sell and trade with fellow members of the same niche community, that will by inference result in very common trust profiles.

Reckon this is stating that the physical crypto bods need their own section. I guess there will be other similar examples in the lists.

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October 05, 2015, 02:38:10 PM
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There is a danger here, that this analysis is identifying 'communities' within bitcoin rather than alts
It may pick up trading communities, yes.


for example - TookDK / Wheresmycoin
That's just an error, I flagged them wrong at some point when comparing 1000s of lists. They probably wouldn't even qualify for the lower tier of association.

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There is a danger here, that this analysis is identifying 'communities' within bitcoin rather than alts

for example - TookDK / Wheresmycoin

Both I know well. Both I have bought and sold physical crypto coins from and to. Live on opposite sides of the world. Not alts.

But are both keen physical crypto currency buyers / sellers / collectors. One example of a very niche community who buy / sell and trade with fellow members of the same niche community, that will by inference result in very common trust profiles.

Reckon this is stating that the physical crypto bods need their own section. I guess there will be other similar examples in the lists.


CJBianco Lesbian Cow 0.61 6.02


I do not have any alts.  Both of us do trade physical bitcoins - it is a fairly small community so it is not surprising we have similar trust lists.

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There is a danger here, that this analysis is identifying 'communities' within bitcoin rather than alts
It may pick up trading communities, yes.


for example - TookDK / Wheresmycoin
That's just an error, I flagged them wrong at some point when comparing 1000s of lists. They probably wouldn't even qualify for the lower tier of association.

Yes, your algorithm got a false-positive on this one.
Wheresmycoin is located 10000 Km from me, literately on the other side of the globe.

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There is a danger here, that this analysis is identifying 'communities' within bitcoin rather than alts

for example - TookDK / Wheresmycoin

Both I know well. Both I have bought and sold physical crypto coins from and to. Live on opposite sides of the world. Not alts.

But are both keen physical crypto currency buyers / sellers / collectors. One example of a very niche community who buy / sell and trade with fellow members of the same niche community, that will by inference result in very common trust profiles.

Reckon this is stating that the physical crypto bods need their own section. I guess there will be other similar examples in the lists.


CJBianco Lesbian Cow 0.61 6.02


I do not have any alts.  Both of us do trade physical bitcoins - it is a fairly small community so it is not surprising we have similar trust lists.
And the drrama starts

I would vouch that this is a true statement, at least the part about CJBianco and Lesbian Cow being different people.

I would not be surprised if many people in trading communities end up being shown as potentially the same person. 

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Very nice work I really like the idea.  And the method you used seems pretty sound, as some said a few false positives but I suspect you found a good  amount of alt trust with this.

What tool did you use to do this?  Did you make it yourself? Can you tell us some about it.  I enjoy learning how things work.
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I would not be surprised if many people in trading communities end up being shown as potentially the same person. 

Well, the tool shouldn't really be used as anything more than an extra bit of evidence, IMHO. There are lots of possibilities that the "alts" were separate people who just had similar trusting personalities.
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I would be very surprised if CJBianco was an actual alt of Lesbian Cow (or vice versa).

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October 06, 2015, 09:30:35 AM
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Very nice work I really like the idea.  And the method you used seems pretty sound, as some said a few false positives but I suspect you found a good  amount of alt trust with this.

What tool did you use to do this?  Did you make it yourself? Can you tell us some about it.  I enjoy learning how things work.

Most things are in excel, yes I made it, no can't say too much about it but its based off the trust list data set Theymos published.

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Very nice work I really like the idea.  And the method you used seems pretty sound, as some said a few false positives but I suspect you found a good  amount of alt trust with this.

What tool did you use to do this?  Did you make it yourself? Can you tell us some about it.  I enjoy learning how things work.

Most things are in excel, yes I made it, no can't say too much about it but its based off the trust list data set Theymos published.

Can the outputs of your work be a feed into the work tspacepilot did ? ("Statistical Methods for Natural Language Processing"). Trust list identifies possible alt candidates, language processing gives probability ?

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October 06, 2015, 11:18:08 AM
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Very nice work I really like the idea.  And the method you used seems pretty sound, as some said a few false positives but I suspect you found a good  amount of alt trust with this.

What tool did you use to do this?  Did you make it yourself? Can you tell us some about it.  I enjoy learning how things work.

Most things are in excel, yes I made it, no can't say too much about it but its based off the trust list data set Theymos published.

Can the outputs of your work be a feed into the work tspacepilot did ? ("Statistical Methods for Natural Language Processing"). Trust list identifies possible alt candidates, language processing gives probability ?

Yes. This really needs more data sources but they'll most likely have to come from Theymos. If you think this is hit and miss, language processing is 10x worse and would probably match everyone to everyone else. There is also no way to override or manually check it by human eyes as all it gives you is a name and a number.

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