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October 08, 2015, 07:58:50 PM
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In other words, there is no policy re. frequency of posts, as long as the posts are not spam. Correct?
There is none. There are people making a lot of posts (20+) a day. However, what you are doing is 'bumping' the thread by posting 'updates'. Rule 13 applies to that.
If you are going to argue that the marketplace rules (or at least no more then one update per 24 hours) rule is going to apply in all sections (which I don't think is an appropriate conclusion) then I might question why this rule is not being enforced across other threads in a similar manor.

The "Bullish News and Articles" thread was updated at 10:48 PM on Oct 7, 2015 here, and was later updated a second time at 11:29 PM the same day, roughly 45 minutes later here.

AFAICT, both threads are roughly the same with one discussing bullish stories and the other discussing bearish stories.
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October 08, 2015, 08:01:11 PM
Last edit: October 08, 2015, 08:18:14 PM by Lauda
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If you are going to argue that the marketplace rules (or at least no more then one update per 24 hours) rule is going to apply in all sections (which I don't think is an appropriate conclusion) then I might question why this rule is not being enforced across other threads in a similar manor.
I'm still looking into that. I'm waiting for a official statement or someone who's been part of the staff for a long time.


Update:
'bump' != 'bumping'.
for other reasons?
No. Don't get me wrong. Nobody is touching your thread (at least I'm not) until someone confirms this.

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October 08, 2015, 08:03:44 PM
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In other words, there is no policy re. frequency of posts, as long as the posts are not spam. Correct?
There is none. There are people making a lot of posts (20+) a day. However, what you are doing is 'bumping' the thread by posting 'updates'. Rule 13 applies to that.

Suggesting that my posts are no more than 'bumps' is a bit... disengenuous?
Especially in light of the 'bullish news' sister thread remaining unmolested, while having x10 the number of posts per day (see link above) & the posts being >80% a simple screencapture of a news article, with no additional content.

Now tell me honestly, did you delete the post because you thought it a bump, or ...for other reasons?
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October 08, 2015, 10:13:44 PM
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Sorry for the delay.
Didn't notice your update, though was waiting for you to respond Sad

... There are various formatting options (e.g. size, color, etc.) that would make it pretty obvious that a post contains new content.
Not on the reader's watchlist, no. ...
Perhaps you've chosen the wrong 'formatting options'? Maybe try something else next time, (e.g. size, color, etc.) that would make it pretty obvious that a post contains new content?



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Update:
'bump' != 'bumping'.
for other reasons?
No. Don't get me wrong. Nobody is touching your thread (at least I'm not) until someone confirms this.
In other words, you've concluded that this post was a bump (or 'bumping,' whichever):
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...and this one, being both directly below & the last post in the thread, escaped notice?
Having fun creating 6 troll accounts in the last 30 min?

Go fuck a duck, tard!

P.S. Experimenting with color per your advice.
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October 08, 2015, 10:23:49 PM
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Sorry for the delay.
Didn't notice your update, though was waiting for you to respond Sad
Yeah I do not like writing posts when it is not necessary, i.e. where I can update my previous post. This reduces unnecessary clutter. Apparently the rule fits, and we should examine on case by case basis (not sure if I'm allowed to quote anyone). This still means that some moderator can 'feel' like you're doing this for the wrong reasons (e.g. increasing post count swiftly) and you could get into trouble. It's best to avoid.

In other words, you've concluded that this post was a bump (or 'bumping,' whichever):
-snip.
...and this one, being both directly below & the last post in the thread, escaped notice?
A bump would be something like:"bump", "up", etc. However, when you're adding more information to the thread by making a new post (when nobody has posted since your last one), you're actually bumping it up via a 'update'. That was what I was trying to say. I was on my smartphone and have not noticed that one. If someone is obviously trolling just report the post and it will be dealt with swiftly.

P.S. Experimenting with color per your advice.
Good. A combination of more links per post and colors should still enable you to get your desired effect in addition to it following guidelines more closely.


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October 08, 2015, 11:24:58 PM
Last edit: October 09, 2015, 12:07:52 AM by ahpku
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Sorry for the delay.
Didn't notice your update, though was waiting for you to respond Sad
Yeah I do not like writing posts when it is not necessary, i.e. where I can update my previous post.
I don't understand. Why didn't you augment your previous post, separating your update with

...and accenting it with text effects (e.g. size, color, etc.) that would make it pretty obvious that a post contains new content?
What made you choose to start a new post?


On a [somewhat] more serious note, not everyone here posts to up his post count. Some [though, grantedly, a precious few] actually have shit to say. The odds of such unmonetized posting are somewhat higher for certain types of users, e.g. those not taking part in signature spam campaigns, etc., etc.
I, I'm happy to say, am one such user.
While you, and I say this with no reproach, implicit or otherwise, are not.

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Since I'm to wait 6 minute before being able to report each post, I'm going to just dump them here for now.
All of these are rule 34 32 13.

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October 08, 2015, 11:51:54 PM
Last edit: October 09, 2015, 12:12:47 AM by ahpku
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TL;DR: I post twice in a row, one post gets deleted because 'bumping'.
The crap above (18 posts posted within half an hour) OTH, gets to stay because reasons.

A newbie account must wait 6 minutes between posts or reports.  If i haven't miscounted, it would take me nearly two hours to report those posts.
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October 09, 2015, 12:16:55 AM
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A newbie account must wait 6 minutes between posts or reports.  If i haven't miscounted, it would take me nearly two hours to report those posts.

No need to report them, really. You basically reported them just now by pointing them out in this thread.

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October 09, 2015, 12:29:58 AM
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No need to report them, really. You basically reported them just now by pointing them out in this thread.

You'd think so, but you'd be wrong.  Each and every one of those posts is still up, even the ones I've reported per advised method Sad
You suppose I should try text effects?
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October 09, 2015, 12:37:42 AM
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No need to report them, really. You basically reported them just now by pointing them out in this thread.

You'd think so, but you'd be wrong.  Each and every one of those posts is still up, even the ones I've reported per advised method Sad
You suppose I should try text effects?

It's only been a hour or so; maybe you should wait a few more hours. There may not be a mod who moderates that forum who is actively patrolling at the moment.
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October 09, 2015, 12:49:36 AM
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... It's only been a hour or so ...
Hope you don't think me a contrarian, but
... Just report obvious trolling using the "Report to moderator " feature.
I invite you to check out The Bullish News Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1166428.0), and suggest you apply to it the same rigor.
(or should I report the posts individually?)

Make it real simple for you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357170;sa=showPosts
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October 09, 2015, 02:44:53 AM
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"You have reported 5 posts with 0% accuracy"
Can one of the anointed explain this shit?
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October 09, 2015, 03:09:47 AM
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at the moment I don't think there's anybody online that can see your reports (admins, GMs, or Blitz).
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October 09, 2015, 03:21:32 AM
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"You have reported 5 posts with 0% accuracy"
Can one of the anointed explain this shit?

your 5 reported posts isnt really a spam/off topic etc that deserves to be deleted

looking for a signature campaign, dm me for that
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October 09, 2015, 03:26:22 AM
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"You have reported 5 posts with 0% accuracy"
Can one of the anointed explain this shit?

your 5 reported posts isnt really a spam/off topic etc that deserves to be deleted
The posts that he reported meet similar criteria of the post of the OP that was deleted....
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October 09, 2015, 03:32:25 AM
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IMO any kind of posts which is made just to spread FUD about bitcoin should be deleted on sight or at least moderated to some degree. but I might be biased.
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October 09, 2015, 05:01:33 AM
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IMO any kind of posts which is made just to spread FUD about bitcoin should be deleted on sight or at least moderated to some degree. but I might be biased.
According to Lauda, who took it upon himself to delete my post, it ran afoul of 'rule 13,' to wit:
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13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours.[2]
What constitutes a 'bump,' you ask (or, rather, 'should ask')? Well, answered right here:
... A bump would be something like:"bump", "up", etc. However, when you're adding more information to the thread by making a new post (when nobody has posted since your last one), you're actually bumping it up via a 'update'. ...
As you see, the 17 consecutive screengrab posts seem to qualify Smiley

As far as caring about how shittily you'd behave towards me, given but a modicum of power/authority?  I don't.
Merely interested in understanding the forum policy. Even that's proving to be more challenging than I've hoped.
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October 09, 2015, 05:41:02 AM
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IMO any kind of posts which is made just to spread FUD about bitcoin should be deleted on sight or at least moderated to some degree. but I might be biased.
So you want to enforce almost nazi moderation on people? And be like: "If you don't like it - delete it?" That is not the way imo.
Some FUD stories are based on solid ground, some are not. Deleting everything slightly FUDish is not good option.
Of course, I am not against deletion of some posts\topics if someone is posting total nonsense.


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October 09, 2015, 07:29:34 AM
Last edit: October 09, 2015, 08:14:39 AM by Lauda
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Okay let me say this one more time. I can not handle that user, and thus you should not be coming to me with those posts (it's being evaluated). Different moderators interpret rules differently. I've left your thread as it is for the moment. As said, if someone thinks that you're doing it for the wrong reasons then they might be deleted.


Tl;dr: Only 1 post was deleted so remain calm. Your thread is still intact and so is the other one. I'll let someone with more experience decide on these two.

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October 09, 2015, 11:32:32 AM
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-snip-

Im sure your childishness will result in what you crave.

"You have reported 5 posts with 0% accuracy"
Can one of the anointed explain this shit?

Id guess they are not handled yet.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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