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October 16, 2015, 07:33:28 PM
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Investing in stocks using Bitcoin makes no sense, because:

1. Bitcoin is likely to be a better investment

2. it's overly complicated and expensive to go fiat -> Bitcoin -> stocks, when you can instead go fiat -> stocks

I presumed that you want to invest in "ordinary stocks" at the general markets (NYSE, Nasdaq...). In case you want to invest in Bitcoin stocks traded at havelock, cryptostocks, mpex and the like, you should be aware that a large percentage of these so-called "stocks" are in fact unregulated junk bonds with an insanely high probability of scam, because many of these "companies" don't even have a valid address.

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October 16, 2015, 09:22:58 PM
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Why don't you do the opposite way? Let's trade on normal sites on stocks and from the profit you can buy bitcoin, you can save a lot of effort and maybe money. It's not easy to find a decent broker to work with, anyway. You could save the fees and be able to buy a bit more bitcoin in the end
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October 16, 2015, 09:42:52 PM
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You can try out HaoBTC (haobtc.com). It is a Beijing-based Bitcoin company incorporated in June, 2014. Although they are pretty new, they have been paying out interest hourly without fail for ten months now. The interest payment, which has been consistently staying above 9% p.a [adjusted to 6%], is generated by their large-scale, high ROI mining operations located in Western Sichuan. Their Cheap off-grid hydropower also helped in increasing the interest rates. You can check out their threads here and here.

Please note that, I'm not sponsoring this site. It's your duty to check thoroughly and use your own brain: caveat emptor.

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October 16, 2015, 09:46:40 PM
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Try 1broker.com like others suggest. I am a member for the past few months and only once I faced an issue when my order was executed at wrong price. Support responded in timely manner and corrected it on the same day.

I was going to do something today but I haven't finished doing nothing from yesterday...
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October 16, 2015, 11:08:01 PM
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You can try out HaoBTC (haobtc.com). It is a Beijing-based Bitcoin company incorporated in June, 2014. Although they are pretty new, they have been paying out interest hourly without fail for ten months now. The interest payment, which has been consistently staying above 9% p.a [adjusted to 6%], is generated by their large-scale, high ROI mining operations located in Western Sichuan. Their Cheap off-grid hydropower also helped in increasing the interest rates. You can check out their threads here and here.

Please note that, I'm not sponsoring this site. It's your duty to check thoroughly and use your own brain: caveat emptor.

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Well, you don't invest in stocks with that company, you invest in that Chinese company.

1broker.com looks better but they don't give any information about their real existence.
I believe they should give their street address on their website. How do I know that website isn't a lonely hacker in Moscow?

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October 17, 2015, 12:36:36 AM
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This is a sure fire way of getting scammed.
I do not know of any legit services that offer this.

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October 17, 2015, 12:49:25 PM
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Try this http://1broker.com  Grin It is nice Forex site with Bitcoins. But you can also check binary site in my signature  Wink
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October 17, 2015, 02:07:19 PM
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I presumed that you want to invest in "ordinary stocks" at the general markets (NYSE, Nasdaq...). In case you want to invest in Bitcoin stocks traded at havelock, cryptostocks, mpex and the like, you should be aware that a large percentage of these so-called "stocks" are in fact unregulated junk bonds with an insanely high probability of scam, because many of these "companies" don't even have a valid address.

So much this. There are already fake stocks on the actual stock market - but Bitcoin is an unregulated space - giving money over for promised returns without actually knowing the people behind it (i.e. accountability) is literally a decision to toss your Bitcoin away. If people really needed funding and they had a viable project they wouldn't have a lot of difficult in securing decent funding (i.e. venture capital).
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October 17, 2015, 02:14:46 PM
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Well, there's one reliable company Smiley

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October 17, 2015, 02:49:43 PM
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Seems like there is not a clearly reliable way to do this.

Too bad. However it is always possible to exchange for fiat then buy bonds or stocks...

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October 17, 2015, 03:35:36 PM
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Investing in stocks using Bitcoin makes no sense, because:

1. Bitcoin is likely to be a better investment

This is not true at all. If you're buying bitcoin as an "investment" you're only speculating; basically gambling. Investing and gambling are not the same thing. When people go to the blackjack tables, they don't say they're "investing" (actually, some of them do, but they're delusional gambling addicts who can't admit they have a problem). Bitcoin is speculation and not an investment because bitcoin doesn't generate income or profit. Investing in actual companies gives you an ownership stake in the company and a share of the profits. Bitcoin doesn't, it just appreciates or depreciates based on supply/demand and inflation. (If bitcoin is appreciating in value only due to fiat's inflation causing the value of the dollar to drop, then you haven't "made" any money, you only kept what you had before inflation.) Therefore, investing in real companies is a better investment than bitcoin because there are actual profits underlying the business. To the extent you earn higher returns with bitcoin during any period of time, you're just lucky your gamble paid off, it's still not an "investment."

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October 17, 2015, 03:38:02 PM
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Investing in stocks using Bitcoin makes no sense, because:

1. Bitcoin is likely to be a better investment

This is not true at all. If you're buying bitcoin as an "investment" you're only speculating; basically gambling. Investing and gambling are not the same thing. When people go to the blackjack tables, they don't say they're "investing" (actually, some of them do, but they're delusional gambling addicts who can't admit they have a problem). Bitcoin is speculation and not an investment because bitcoin doesn't generate income or profit. Investing in actual companies gives you an ownership stake in the company and a share of the profits. Bitcoin doesn't, it just appreciates or depreciates based on supply/demand and inflation. (If bitcoin is appreciating in value only due to fiat's inflation causing the value of the dollar to drop, then you haven't "made" any money, you only kept what you had before inflation.) Therefore, investing in real companies is a better investment than bitcoin because there are actual profits underlying the business. To the extent you earn higher returns with bitcoin during any period of time, you're just lucky your gamble paid off, it's still not an "investment."

That is to say, you can absolutely earn higher returns gambling than investing. But that still doesn't make gambling a good idea. Be aware of the risks of gambling vs. investing. Many investments aren't even a sound idea, and no investment is guaranteed to make money. Gambling is one step further down than that on the spectrum uncertainty.

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October 17, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
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uhh thers this app called robinhood i think with 0 commision stock trading, although they dont accept bitcoin. you can sell your btc for money in the bank then use that to fund your account
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October 17, 2015, 04:39:43 PM
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Well, not big of a trading, not sure how you would like it, but you can have a go and look at cryptostocks.com
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October 17, 2015, 06:59:07 PM
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Investing in stocks using Bitcoin makes no sense, because:

1. Bitcoin is likely to be a better investment

2. it's overly complicated and expensive to go fiat -> Bitcoin -> stocks, when you can instead go fiat -> stocks

I presumed that you want to invest in "ordinary stocks" at the general markets (NYSE, Nasdaq...). In case you want to invest in Bitcoin stocks traded at havelock, cryptostocks, mpex and the like, you should be aware that a large percentage of these so-called "stocks" are in fact unregulated junk bonds with an insanely high probability of scam, because many of these "companies" don't even have a valid address.

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here we are referring to website like 1broker when you can invest in stocks/forex via cfd, not real stocks/forex, so the passages is only bitcoin-> your desired investment-> cash out in bitcoin, there is no fiat involved

and when someone want to invest in bitcoin, is obviously to have more bitcoin, aside from the intrinsic investment element that bitcoin already offer, like speculating...
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October 19, 2015, 03:32:04 AM
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Well, not big of a trading, not sure how you would like it, but you can have a go and look at cryptostocks.com

Thanks for the URL. I have been looking for investment into stocks with bitcoin payments. But I guess I need to submit my age proof and other identifications documents along with my account opening. I have been looking for an anonymous buying of stocks with bitcoin.
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October 19, 2015, 04:05:31 AM
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Try 1broker.com like others suggest. I am a member for the past few months and only once I faced an issue when my order was executed at wrong price. Support responded in timely manner and corrected it on the same day.

I never heard of that site before, but if most have already then id assume its safe?

Anyways, I suggest people who have bitcoin to cash out then invest the tradtional stock exchange instead, but this is my view.
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October 19, 2015, 04:07:12 AM
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Well, not big of a trading, not sure how you would like it, but you can have a go and look at cryptostocks.com

I`m not a big fan of trading either.

I have a friend who trade stocks in day trading on the exchange not bitcoin. But he lost $30,000 but now doing it succesfuly making $80,000 now.

I dont think I can handle the emotion.
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October 19, 2015, 04:02:20 PM
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Hi everyone,
I will like to know if there us a legit websites one can use bitcoin in purchasing stocks or bonds online?

Thanks.
Richard.

I am wary of purchasing stocks or bonds using bitcoins.  I do not know of any legit site that offers this.
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October 19, 2015, 05:37:10 PM
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Well, not big of a trading, not sure how you would like it, but you can have a go and look at cryptostocks.com

I`m not a big fan of trading either.

I have a friend who trade stocks in day trading on the exchange not bitcoin. But he lost $30,000 but now doing it succesfuly making $80,000 now.

I dont think I can handle the emotion.

Well, I cannot and would not move around that kind of sums on a regular basis. Too much pressure.
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