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October 15, 2015, 05:51:26 AM
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Dude kindly get rid of lastuser's name here cuz it has a new owner as I sold it days ago. Yes, I am lastuser and I am the one who bought hardtime from you Smiley The said accounts were already sold and in control by two completely different user respectively (hardtime was sold to a scammer(now) and lastuser was sold to a reputable hero  member). I don't wanna let that reputable hero member be involved on this Smiley

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October 15, 2015, 06:00:26 AM
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Dude kindly get rid of lastuser's name here cuz it has a new owner as I sold it days ago. Yes, I am lastuser and I am the one who bought hardtime from you Smiley The said accounts were already sold and in control by two completely different user respectively (hardtime was sold to a scammer(now) and lastuser was sold to a reputable hero  member). I don't wanna let that reputable hero member be involved on this Smiley
when you sold this
post some proofs
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October 15, 2015, 06:03:51 AM
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Dude kindly get rid of lastuser's name here cuz it has a new owner as I sold it days ago. Yes, I am lastuser and I am the one who bought hardtime from you Smiley The said accounts were already sold and in control by two completely different user respectively (hardtime was sold to a scammer(now) and lastuser was sold to a reputable hero  member). I don't wanna let that reputable hero member be involved on this Smiley
when you sold this
post some proofs

What account are you referring? The lastuser one or the hardtime one? Or both? I will be posting proofs here as long as its needed, let me know what account it is.

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October 15, 2015, 06:24:17 AM
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Dude kindly get rid of lastuser's name here cuz it has a new owner as I sold it days ago. Yes, I am lastuser and I am the one who bought hardtime from you Smiley The said accounts were already sold and in control by two completely different user respectively (hardtime was sold to a scammer(now) and lastuser was sold to a reputable hero  member). I don't wanna let that reputable hero member be involved on this Smiley
when you sold this
post some proofs

What account are you referring? The lastuser one or the hardtime one? Or both? I will be posting proofs here as long as its needed, let me know what account it is.

I see that the password for hardtime was changed twice late Sept[1], if you can provide proof that the accounts had been sold on Oct 3th (or earlier) I am willing to remove the ratings.

[1] https://archive.is/mAR4S
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October 15, 2015, 06:27:10 AM
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Dude kindly get rid of lastuser's name here cuz it has a new owner as I sold it days ago. Yes, I am lastuser and I am the one who bought hardtime from you Smiley The said accounts were already sold and in control by two completely different user respectively (hardtime was sold to a scammer(now) and lastuser was sold to a reputable hero  member). I don't wanna let that reputable hero member be involved on this Smiley
when you sold this
post some proofs
What account are you referring? The lastuser one or the hardtime one? Or both? I will be posting proofs here as long as its needed, let me know what account it is.
Both,
provide proofs like who bought them , who was escrow, payment amount, tx ID for payment etc
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October 15, 2015, 06:36:54 AM
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Dude kindly get rid of lastuser's name here cuz it has a new owner as I sold it days ago. Yes, I am lastuser and I am the one who bought hardtime from you Smiley The said accounts were already sold and in control by two completely different user respectively (hardtime was sold to a scammer(now) and lastuser was sold to a reputable hero  member). I don't wanna let that reputable hero member be involved on this Smiley
when you sold this
post some proofs

What account are you referring? The lastuser one or the hardtime one? Or both? I will be posting proofs here as long as its needed, let me know what account it is.

I see that the password for hardtime was changed twice late Sept[1], if you can provide proof that the accounts had been sold on Oct 3th (or earlier) I am willing to remove the ratings.

[1] https://archive.is/mAR4S

Actually it was sold earlier, give me a minute to look up those proofs including the PMs and the transaction id ofthe payment

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October 15, 2015, 06:39:37 AM
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he says that account was sold on 13 October, the same day user started scam accusation but when I asked him for proofs he say he can't give those details

if he don't provide proofs then I doubt the account is still controlled by him and he is lying, account was not sold just changed the password

here is his PM

I sold it recently , just on oct 13. I don't wanna disclose our deal as the buyer is a trusted one and he bought it privately. I want to ask a permission from him first before disclosing his identity as a buyer of the account. Can you wait?
you sold the account on 13th oct the same day when Scam Accusation was opened
and you don't even have proofs that account was sold, because you didn't sent any proofs

if you can't provide me proofs then I think its still your alt
name of the user who bought the account, payment amount and link to the transaction
Sorry you don't have enough reputation that I can trust you with such confidential details, feel free to list it as I am innocent. I will be only giving these details to a reputable member and to a certified scam buster, not to a wannabe
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October 15, 2015, 06:42:13 AM
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!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Hi,
Payment Sent 0.06 BTC to 1LyDN6jnwcaWRo13V8rUBjmQ7AYqfqWrpP

Please send me the account details and signed message.

Waiting for your reply, Thanks
Thanks! Payment received!
user: hardtime
Pass: thankyou

 -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is hardtime from bitcointalk.org and today is 2015.09.03 i am selling my account to "lastuser"
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1KQtiRVB7x8h7R7aLbHTqAzN4YNv5d8GQf
HKicTKkiINGHXpYiKqceFFiib/yrLYlt0UtsHpaPsNerKpJtktAvH5Caec1Zs432PUL/4XHllqN+DlmHH/Sia/0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Note: lastuser is my another account,  a full member also, im selling it also if you want Grin

Here's the tx id of his payment  https://blockchain.info/tx/601ff7e1bad0847f78555c03db5e060436d5039a4c1ad4d4756ff9a872cebcc9

@shorena: regarding to lastuser, I am willing to send our conversation with the buyer as you are reputable enough to hold confidential details, just let me know

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October 15, 2015, 06:47:03 AM
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he says that account was sold on 13 October, the same day user started scam accusation but when I asked him for proofs he say he can't give those details

if he don't provide proofs then I doubt the account is still controlled by him and he is lying, account was not sold just changed the password

here is his PM

I sold it recently , just on oct 13. I don't wanna disclose our deal as the buyer is a trusted one and he bought it privately. I want to ask a permission from him first before disclosing his identity as a buyer of the account. Can you wait?
you sold the account on 13th oct the same day when Scam Accusation was opened
and you don't even have proofs that account was sold, because you didn't sent any proofs

if you can't provide me proofs then I think its still your alt
name of the user who bought the account, payment amount and link to the transaction
Sorry you don't have enough reputation that I can trust you with such confidential details, feel free to list it as I am innocent. I will be only giving these details to a reputable member and to a certified scam buster, not to a wannabe

Just shut up scam buster wannabe, you'll definitely eat your words after I cleared this up. Roll Eyes Anyways I don't have more time arguing with   you.

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October 15, 2015, 06:55:56 AM
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Here are some alts of Laosai
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Tx ID
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http://blockinfo.org/tx/e69c5befb0e8ed3e37c4593cc28a8751739b1925970a4466dadbc5b3a1a77c00


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg11849004#msg11849004
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg12342356#msg12342356
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg12394425#msg12394425
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg12337215#msg12337215
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October 15, 2015, 06:57:48 AM
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!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Hi,
Payment Sent 0.06 BTC to 1LyDN6jnwcaWRo13V8rUBjmQ7AYqfqWrpP

Please send me the account details and signed message.

Waiting for your reply, Thanks
Thanks! Payment received!
user: hardtime
Pass: thankyou

 -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is hardtime from bitcointalk.org and today is 2015.09.03 i am selling my account to "lastuser"
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1KQtiRVB7x8h7R7aLbHTqAzN4YNv5d8GQf
HKicTKkiINGHXpYiKqceFFiib/yrLYlt0UtsHpaPsNerKpJtktAvH5Caec1Zs432PUL/4XHllqN+DlmHH/Sia/0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Note: lastuser is my another account,  a full member also, im selling it also if you want Grin

Here's the tx id of his payment  https://blockchain.info/tx/601ff7e1bad0847f78555c03db5e060436d5039a4c1ad4d4756ff9a872cebcc9

@shorena: regarding to lastuser, I am willing to send our conversation with the buyer as you are reputable enough to hold confidential details, just let me know

Someone dodged a bullet there, will remove the rating. see edit below.

If you get permission to share what you have regarding lastuser, let me know.

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Is that relevant here? If not please dont make this more complicated than it needs to be.

Edit: Just a second... if hardtime was sold why did I get the following PMs?

After i do all payments i will intimate you and you need to delete the negative trust feedback.

Due to low funds i not paid, After i do all payments i will intimate you and you need to remove the negative trust feedback ok.
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October 15, 2015, 07:03:31 AM
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I got same PMs from Hardtime and escrowboy


After i do all payments i will intimate you and you need to delete the negative trust feedback.

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

I don't know why you peoples are concentrating on me as i said i will pay for it. I will pay to all users please don't keep on follow me and mark the untrust. I am looking for a person who will make all the payments.
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October 15, 2015, 07:06:50 AM
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Kindly check your PM shorena , I already sent the details and please keep it private as possible as I don't want the buyer to be involved on this Smiley

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October 15, 2015, 07:10:04 AM
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Here are some alts of Laosai
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Is that relevant here? If not please dont make this more complicated than it needs to be.
yes it is
he had many alts and he may list any of his alt as buyer for the account lastuser
So he should share the name of person who bought the account lastuser so we can check if he is his own alt or different user
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October 15, 2015, 07:13:02 AM
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Kindly check your PM shorena , I already sent the details and please keep it private as possible as I don't want the buyer to be involved on this Smiley

Yes, Im checking back with the other person.

Here are some alts of Laosai
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Is that relevant here? If not please dont make this more complicated than it needs to be.
yes it is
he had many alts and he may list any of his alt as buyer for the account lastuser
So he should share the name of person who bought the account lastuser so we can check if he is his own alt or different user

I will see if they are willing to share that, I dont think it will be an issue.
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October 15, 2015, 07:15:21 AM
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I asked him to share the name of buyer and said that i will not share name in public if he is not related to scam
but he is afraid to share the name because i know his many alts
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October 15, 2015, 07:18:42 AM
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I asked him to share the name of buyer and said that i will not share name in public if he is not related to scam
but he is afraid to share the name because i know his many alts

I think I was not clear enough. I got the name of the buyer and contacted them to verify the information Laosai gave me. Once thats done I will ask them to state they bought the account here. Considering who the buyer is, I dont think this will be a problem.
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October 15, 2015, 07:25:19 AM
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I asked him to share the name of buyer and said that i will not share name in public if he is not related to scam
but he is afraid to share the name because i know his many alts

I think I was not clear enough. I got the name of the buyer and contacted them to verify the information Laosai gave me. Once thats done I will ask them to state they bought the account here. Considering who the buyer is, I dont think this will be a problem.
yes
its not a problem sharing the name of buyer, forum allow having multiple accounts
but its an open scam accusation so we must know name of the buyer, payment amount and tx to confirm this account was sold

ask the laosai for payment amount and tx id of the payment for account lastuser sell, just name of the buyer is not enough
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October 15, 2015, 07:33:18 AM
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I asked him to share the name of buyer and said that i will not share name in public if he is not related to scam
but he is afraid to share the name because i know his many alts

I'm afraid to share the name of the buyer not because of my alts, its because I care about the privacy of the buyer since we had a deal privately. That's why I told you to wait and I will ask a permission to the buyer if I can disclose his identity as the buyer. Good thing shorena was here to help, thanks man!

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October 15, 2015, 07:35:05 AM
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I asked him to share the name of buyer and said that i will not share name in public if he is not related to scam
but he is afraid to share the name because i know his many alts

I'm afraid to share the name of the buyer not because of my alts, its because I care about the privacy of the buyer since we had a deal privately. That's why I told you to wait and I will ask a permission to the buyer if I can disclose his identity as the buyer. Good thing shorena was here to help, thanks man!
still other questions are unanswered
deal amount and payment tx id
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