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October 14, 2015, 10:27:29 PM
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Just like the title says. PM me your price & pics.

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November 04, 2015, 01:45:51 PM
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Bump. Still looking. I've had a few people PM me, but none of them actually have PGP custody docs so far.

Please don't PM me unless you actually have a chain of custody for your coin -- it's useless to discuss the sale otherwise, as I'm not interested in random coins without a custody chain.

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November 15, 2015, 05:58:30 PM
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STILL LOOKING.

Offering above-market rates.


What are market rates these days?

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November 15, 2015, 07:35:59 PM
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STILL LOOKING.

Offering above-market rates.


What are market rates these days?

Last auction I saw went for 1.3; there's another auction happening right now that's currently around the same. I'm willing to pay 0.5-1.0 above market rate for a good coin w/ docs.

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December 02, 2015, 07:50:00 PM
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Just a bump. Anyone?

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December 02, 2015, 07:50:58 PM
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I contacted Mike to get PGP docs with no success.  Sorry.  Embarrassed

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December 02, 2015, 09:32:35 PM
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Quick question what is required in a chain of custody and why? If you own a coin is that not enough?
By the way I dont have this coin to sell.

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December 02, 2015, 09:33:57 PM
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I contacted Mike to get PGP docs with no success.  Sorry.  Embarrassed

@OgNasty, did he said no or he is not responding? If later, do you have any idea when he was around last time?


Quick question what is required in a chain of custody and why? If you own a coin is that not enough?
By the way I dont have this coin to sell.

Basically each owner of the coin, starting from Casascius, should PGP-sign the message that he owned the coin and passed it over to the next owner, so you can see the full history of which hands it passed through. It's helpful with fighting potential fakes.
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December 02, 2015, 10:02:18 PM
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I contacted Mike to get PGP docs with no success.  Sorry.  Embarrassed

I have tried to contact him recently with no luck either. I guess Mike is not wanting to deal with these sorts of requests any longer.
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December 02, 2015, 10:11:10 PM
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It might be distracting I'm sure if he is randomly getting contacted by people every once in a while. I wonder if, instead, it would be possible to organize a "group signing", so i.e. once per 6 or 12 months people would gather their requests to a representative and he will pass it all-at-once to Mike. Everybody could probably agree to pay some fee. I guess we would need someone who knows Mike, so he can present him the idea.
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December 02, 2015, 10:27:08 PM
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It might be distracting I'm sure if he is randomly getting contacted by people every once in a while. I wonder if, instead, it would be possible to organize a "group signing", so i.e. once per 6 or 12 months people would gather their requests to a representative and he will pass it all-at-once to Mike. Everybody could probably agree to pay some fee. I guess we would need someone who knows Mike, so he can present him the idea.

Maybe it has been so long that he doesn't feel comfortable signing them anymore.  Perhaps the best way to prove the chain of custody now is to publicly link to group buys and auction threads...

I would definitely participate with multiple coins if he did a final group signing though.

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December 03, 2015, 01:11:46 PM
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It might be distracting I'm sure if he is randomly getting contacted by people every once in a while. I wonder if, instead, it would be possible to organize a "group signing", so i.e. once per 6 or 12 months people would gather their requests to a representative and he will pass it all-at-once to Mike. Everybody could probably agree to pay some fee. I guess we would need someone who knows Mike, so he can present him the idea.

Maybe it has been so long that he doesn't feel comfortable signing them anymore.  Perhaps the best way to prove the chain of custody now is to publicly link to group buys and auction threads...

I would definitely participate with multiple coins if he did a final group signing though.

Sounds like we need to start to develop a crypto-coin database. Kinda like being able to look up on the Uberbills site.
There are lists of the first bits, yes??   Take that, add all of the ANACS to it, and start making a list.
I have been keeping track of some/most of the Casas. on ebay.  Can track the sellers but kinda hard to know who/where it is sent because bidders user names are truncated.
Here on the fourm, it would be searching all of the threads and messages. Or if sellers keep lists of their sales?

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December 03, 2015, 04:55:02 PM
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This database you're suggesting sounds useless as a replacement for custody chains

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December 03, 2015, 06:36:54 PM
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This database you're suggesting sounds useless as a replacement for custody chains

Can't custody chains be embedded into the blockchain info of the btc in question?
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December 03, 2015, 07:02:27 PM
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This database you're suggesting sounds useless as a replacement for custody chains

Can't custody chains be embedded into the blockchain info of the btc in question?


You'd still need Mike's signature, which is the original problem.














 

 

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December 03, 2015, 09:42:52 PM
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Honestly baffled as to why people didn't get on this when they had the chance.

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December 03, 2015, 10:06:12 PM
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Honestly baffled as to why people didn't get on this when they had the chance.

I only tried just to sell you a coin above market rates  Grin. I really do not care about a chain for my coins.
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December 03, 2015, 11:08:03 PM
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Honestly baffled as to why people didn't get on this when they had the chance.

Probably following:
  • not knowing this is possible
  • not feeling this is important
  • negligence (as in my case)

I think whether you fancy to have the chain yourself or not, it is better to have it, at least because that could make the price of the coin slightly higher. As the time will go on, years will pass, there would be plenty of time for scammers to create great-looking fakes and having properly signed docs could became more and more valuable.

I don't think Casascius have yet explicitly said that he is not signing anymore so perhaps it's not completely lost yet? I wouldn't expect him to do it until the end of his life, but it would be great if he can at least give a warning that it's going to end at some specific date. I'm thinking about creating another topic here dedicated just to PGP docs where we could count how many people are interested and perhaps we could find someone who knows Mike and can talk with him about it - to just do it one last time Smiley. As said before, I'd happy to pay some reasonable fee for each coin signed.
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December 03, 2015, 11:52:00 PM
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Honestly baffled as to why people didn't get on this when they had the chance.

I only tried just to sell you a coin above market rates  Grin. I really do not care about a chain for my coins.

Same here.  I ordered mine directly from Casascius, so I'm not worried about it.  If it's going to increase the value in other people's eyes though, I figure I might as well get them signed if given the opportunity.

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December 03, 2015, 11:54:13 PM
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Honestly baffled as to why people didn't get on this when they had the chance.

I only tried just to sell you a coin above market rates  Grin. I really do not care about a chain for my coins.

And I'm STILL offering above market rates...  PGP docs = free money...

Same here.  I ordered mine directly from Casascius, so I'm not worried about it.  If it's going to increase the value in other people's eyes though, I figure I might as well get them signed if given the opportunity.

Most of my coins are first-hand purchases, but I recently managed to become second owner of some silvers with docs. Probably put different prices on them based on the length of the custody chain at some point, although truthfully I'm almost done selling.

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