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[awesome31312]

There is absolutely nothing moral about a society that forces its terminally ill to exist, as well as to coerce them into forms of treatment that only seek to prolong, rather than eliminate their suffering.

[codishmumu]

Sometimes an illness cannot be cured, so I might agree with this. Anyway, living in itself is technically pointless if we're all going to die at some point either way. I'm not saying people should commit suicide. I advocate against that daily. I'm just saying that in general that this person makes a good point, and I'm not going to deny that just because I advocate against suicide. I advocate against denying facts as well.

[awesome31312]

Sometimes an illness cannot be cured, so I might agree with this. Anyway, living in itself is technically pointless if we're all going to die at some point either way. When we die, it's not like what we did ever mattered. I'm not saying people should commit suicide. I advocate against that daily. I'm just saying that in general that this person makes a good point.

I do share all the views that you have stated in that post, with the exception of your belief on suicide. I think that to prevent the painful ways that people choose to end their demise we need to implement safer modes, specifically, physician assisted suicide, or euthanasia.

I've lost two family members to cancer, they both suffered, and I will never ever know what they had been through. That's why it's a lot easier for me to say bullshit like "Killing yourself is not the answer" or "It is all temporary, it will be over soon". No, I don't know their pain, and it's very insensitive and hurtful to do that.

[codishmumu]

Sometimes an illness cannot be cured, so I might agree with this. Anyway, living in itself is technically pointless if we're all going to die at some point either way. When we die, it's not like what we did ever mattered. I'm not saying people should commit suicide. I advocate against that daily. I'm just saying that in general that this person makes a good point.

I do share all the views that you have stated in that post, with the exception of your belief on suicide. I think that to prevent the painful ways that people choose to end their demise we need to implement safer modes, specifically, physician assisted suicide, or euthanasia.

I've lost two family members to cancer, they both suffered, and I will never ever know what they had been through. That's why it's a lot easier for me to say bullshit like "Killing yourself is not the answer" or "It is all temporary, it will be over soon". No, I don't know their pain, and it's very insensitive and hurtful to do that.

I know how you feel. Mental illness or physical illness, no, we don't know somebody else's pain. To advocate suicide is going to be very frowned down upon though. The concern of businesses not achieving goals without workers will be threatening if the workers decide to commit suicide from anxiety. That's an illness. Same situation applies to certain religions. I had read somewhere that the Christian religion told their followers that if you were to kill yourself, you would burn for eternity to just scare them from ending their own lives. I could be wrong about that statement, so I will relook it up. When judgment day comes, you could've argued saying that it's not like you even asked to be born. It doesn't matter though. That's not your choice.

The point I'm trying to make, or the point society made is that you don't belong to yourself. You belong to the world. That's why cryptocurrencies like bitcoin are heavily frowned down upon. There's no way to place tax on this currency, which denied the ability of the government taxing your earnings to use your money to build roads, build schools, build homes, and so on.

[awesome31312]

Sometimes an illness cannot be cured, so I might agree with this. Anyway, living in itself is technically pointless if we're all going to die at some point either way. When we die, it's not like what we did ever mattered. I'm not saying people should commit suicide. I advocate against that daily. I'm just saying that in general that this person makes a good point.

I do share all the views that you have stated in that post, with the exception of your belief on suicide. I think that to prevent the painful ways that people choose to end their demise we need to implement safer modes, specifically, physician assisted suicide, or euthanasia.

I've lost two family members to cancer, they both suffered, and I will never ever know what they had been through. That's why it's a lot easier for me to say bullshit like "Killing yourself is not the answer" or "It is all temporary, it will be over soon". No, I don't know their pain, and it's very insensitive and hurtful to do that.

I know how you feel. Mental illness or physical illness, no, we don't know somebody else's pain. To advocate suicide is going to be very frowned down upon though. The concern of businesses not achieving goals without workers will be threatening if the workers decide to commit suicide from anxiety. That's an illness. Same situation applies to certain religions. I had read somewhere that the Christian religion told their followers that if you were to kill yourself, you would burn for eternity to just scare them from ending their own lives. I could be wrong about that statement, so I will relook it up. When judgment day comes, you could've argued saying that it's not like you even asked to be born. It doesn't matter though. That's not your choice.

The point I'm trying to make, or the point society made is that you don't belong to yourself. You belong to the world. That's why cryptocurrencies like bitcoin are heavily frowned down upon. There's no way to place tax on this currency, which denied the ability of the government taxing your earnings to use your money to build roads, build schools, build homes, and so on.

That brings me to another point. Not only is it immoral to force the chronically ill to exist, but to condemn to eternal damnation in the afterlife is even worse.

[FanEagle]

You know,if there is no cure for it,and the patient is in eternal pain, do you think are we allowed to see him living in suffer?
That should happen only in hell imo.
How can you pretend that they should live only because you are related to them.I mean,you prefer seeing them suffering?
I know,maybe not all chronic disease actually shows pain,but it's like telling them, you are gonna die soon,I'm sorry.
And he or she will probably live those months in depressed state.

[codishmumu]

Sometimes an illness cannot be cured, so I might agree with this. Anyway, living in itself is technically pointless if we're all going to die at some point either way. When we die, it's not like what we did ever mattered. I'm not saying people should commit suicide. I advocate against that daily. I'm just saying that in general that this person makes a good point.

I do share all the views that you have stated in that post, with the exception of your belief on suicide. I think that to prevent the painful ways that people choose to end their demise we need to implement safer modes, specifically, physician assisted suicide, or euthanasia.

I've lost two family members to cancer, they both suffered, and I will never ever know what they had been through. That's why it's a lot easier for me to say bullshit like "Killing yourself is not the answer" or "It is all temporary, it will be over soon". No, I don't know their pain, and it's very insensitive and hurtful to do that.

I know how you feel. Mental illness or physical illness, no, we don't know somebody else's pain. To advocate suicide is going to be very frowned down upon though. The concern of businesses not achieving goals without workers will be threatening if the workers decide to commit suicide from anxiety. That's an illness. Same situation applies to certain religions. I had read somewhere that the Christian religion told their followers that if you were to kill yourself, you would burn for eternity to just scare them from ending their own lives. I could be wrong about that statement, so I will relook it up. When judgment day comes, you could've argued saying that it's not like you even asked to be born. It doesn't matter though. That's not your choice.

The point I'm trying to make, or the point society made is that you don't belong to yourself. You belong to the world. That's why cryptocurrencies like bitcoin are heavily frowned down upon. There's no way to place tax on this currency, which denied the ability of the government taxing your earnings to use your money to build roads, build schools, build homes, and so on.

That brings me to another point. Not only is it immoral to force the chronically ill to exist, but to condemn to eternal damnation in the afterlife is even worse.

As mentioned before, you're in no position to control what happens to you, because society said it is not your life. It is the world's life. Two people brought you into this world without your consent. You belong to your parents until you turn legal age.

When you turn legal age, you belong to the world. If you do not work for the world and make money which will be taxed without your consent, you will in turn end up homeless, which is very painful physically and emotionally. If you try to commit suicide in this time, or any other time, there is a slight possibility that there is an afterlife that could force you into eternal damnation. The world needs you. Whether you become moral support, spiritual support or physical support, the world needs you. My concern is that no matter how much logic you use in this proposal, people who live painless successful lives will look at you as if you are speaking in a different language. They don't understand, because they've never felt the pain, or cannot feel sympathy. They are sheltered from struggles and may continue being sheltered. My only advice is that if you really want to convince hospitals all around the globe to offer assisted suicides, you have to find a way to get society to feel and understand the true pain of living a life you never asked to live. It'll be difficult.





Good news is I don't really believe there's an afterlife. Nothingness couldn't be worse than living a life you never even asked to live. I have found that living isn't too bad if we just listen to a happy song, or make a joke about our problems and laugh about them. If we don't listen to a happy song, we will sing a sad one and if we don't laugh, we'll cry.

[codishmumu]

You know,if there is no cure for it,and the patient is in eternal pain, do you think are we allowed to see him living in suffer?
That should happen only in hell imo.
How can you pretend that they should live only because you are related to them.I mean,you prefer seeing them suffering?
I know,maybe not all chronic disease actually shows pain,but it's like telling them, you are gonna die soon,I'm sorry.
And he or she will probably live those months in depressed state.

Sometimes I think it is somewhat selfish to want to kill yourself if you know other people need you here. I'm not saying suicide shouldn't be done, but I'm not saying it should either.