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October 21, 2015, 07:40:32 AM
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When someone is banned, their IP and some of their neighboring IPs receive evil points. The thought occurred to me recently that you could create a map of the Internet according to evil points, and I couldn't resist doing this right away. The result is pretty cool-looking IMO. It also seems to show that the evil score system is working as expected: the vast majority of the Internet is not being forced to pay, and in the isolated sections where a registration fee is required, prohibitively-large fees are very rare.

Here's the image (zoom in):
https://bitcointalk.org/banmap201510.png

Each pixel is a /24 address block (ie. each pixel represents 256 IP addresses). The colors are:
Zero or nearly zero evil
A small amount of evil
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At this point you actually have to pay if you register an account in this block
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Pretty high
A ton of evil, more than anyone is likely to pay

This is per block, so a single IP address could have an evil score requiring payment while its block still shows up as black here. A colored pixel indicates the evil score of a typical IP in that block.

Addresses are laid out in the standard way. So you can for example cross-reference with these maps: https://ant.isi.edu/address/

A /24 should almost never uniquely identify someone, but to be safe I randomly added, removed, and modified some of this data for plausible deniability.

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October 21, 2015, 07:50:11 AM
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When someone is banned, their IP and some of their neighboring IPs receive evil points.

Just curious - Is it the last used IP? What happens when the IP an account registered with, is different from the IPs used later on?

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October 21, 2015, 07:57:11 AM
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When someone is banned, their IP and some of their neighboring IPs receive evil points.

Just curious - Is it the last used IP? What happens when the IP an account registered with, is different from the IPs used later on?

It is most probably the IP address the account is registered with.
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October 21, 2015, 07:57:49 AM
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Do evil points ever fade away over time or is the map consistent for certain ranges.
And it looks like the Internet is not so evil after all except for that one well defined corner  Grin
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October 21, 2015, 08:00:30 AM
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Do evil points ever fade away or is the map consistent forever.
And it looks like the Internet is not so evil after all except for that one well defined corner  Grin
Last I heard they do decay.


@Theymos is there a way to convert/anon the data such that it could be released? I've never visualised something of only nodes, would be interesting to see what Gephi can do.

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October 21, 2015, 08:00:57 AM
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Just curious - Is it the last used IP?

All IPs on file for them are banned, and each one will affect its neighbors.

Do evil points ever fade away

Yes. This map is pretty short-term. And I'm probably not going to update it. But it's still interesting IMO.

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October 21, 2015, 08:06:40 AM
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@Theymos is there a way to convert/anon the data such that it could be released?

You can already reconstruct a lot of the data from the graph with some work. Given a pixel position, you can calculate its /24 address. I'm hesitant to publish the source data because, given that, it's more likely that you'll be able to figure out which data entries I fudged.

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October 21, 2015, 08:30:13 AM
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Looks pretty good. How long did it take you to visualize it? I always wonder why you never tend to update (points @reported posts and accuracy). Honestly, I was expecting more red blocks.

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October 21, 2015, 10:34:34 AM
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@Theymos is there a way to convert/anon the data such that it could be released?

You can already reconstruct a lot of the data from the graph with some work. Given a pixel position, you can calculate its /24 address. I'm hesitant to publish the source data because, given that, it's more likely that you'll be able to figure out which data entries I fudged.

I'm not understanding why it is an issue if someone could work out evil IP ranges. The high ones are almost all going to be VPNs and it doesn't identify anyone. The years of data may be useful to others operating other bitcoin services to pre-empt problems before they occur. Regardless, deconstructing the image is beyond my paygrade so unless someone else can get me the pixel data into a written data form I'll have to pass.

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October 21, 2015, 01:40:18 PM
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Looks like a Nebula.

Here's the image (zoom in):
https://bitcointalk.org/banmap201510.png

What does X & Y axis stand for in this image ?
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October 21, 2015, 01:48:49 PM
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any chance to get this on a world map?

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October 21, 2015, 02:45:35 PM
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having a hard time understanding this.
so the top left would be xx.0.0.0 and xx.255.255.255 for the top right pixel, and xx.170.130.179 for the blue dot near the bottom right... am I correct?

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having a hard time understanding this.
so the top left would be xx.0.0.0 and xx.255.255.255 for the top right pixel, and xx.170.130.179 for the blue dot near the bottom right... am I correct?

The numbers are right, but it's 0.0.0.x, 255.255.255.x, and 170.130.179.x.

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October 21, 2015, 04:30:42 PM
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having a hard time understanding this.
so the top left would be xx.0.0.0 and xx.255.255.255 for the top right pixel, and xx.170.130.179 for the blue dot near the bottom right... am I correct?

The numbers are right, but it's 0.0.0.x, 255.255.255.x, and 170.130.179.x.

got it. thanks.

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splitting the image to 256 16x16 pics can make things a lot easier. though I'm not sure how to do it afterwards in a simple way.

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October 21, 2015, 05:02:32 PM
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At first I thought I was looking at a massive void in space lol.

any chance to get this on a world map?

A great idea, though I wonder how it can be done with such a massive number of IP addresses available. When I first registered an account, I have had to pay a mere 8752 satoshi. I guess my IP back then contains some units of evil more than the blue green threshold.

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October 21, 2015, 05:19:15 PM
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any chance to get this on a world map?

This will be a lot more easier to understand if it will be on the world map. The pixels looks like a bunch of shining stars to me. LOL. Great idea tho, I once encountered to pay a fee when I used a vpn before. So this is why..

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October 21, 2015, 09:22:31 PM
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Nice map, pretty interesting data Smiley A must have for forum users that are number and statistics freaks, I guess Cheesy
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October 22, 2015, 12:21:06 AM
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having a hard time understanding this.
so the top left would be xx.0.0.0 and xx.255.255.255 for the top right pixel, and xx.170.130.179 for the blue dot near the bottom right... am I correct?

The numbers are right, but it's 0.0.0.x, 255.255.255.x, and 170.130.179.x.

got it. thanks.

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splitting the image to 256 16x16 pics can make things a lot easier. though I'm not sure how to do it afterwards in a simple way.

Doesn't particularly help me as I don't have any way to automate the process after that. I have to start with words and turn words into other things as nothing I know interacts with non words.

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October 22, 2015, 12:26:17 AM
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So if you get permbanned you have to pay ? Or can you ie pay to have ban killed sooner than given date?

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October 22, 2015, 12:55:12 AM
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So if you get permbanned you have to pay ? Or can you ie pay to have ban killed sooner than given date?
If an IP has someone banned on it then for someone else to register via the same IP they have to pay a bit. Its an alternative to outright IP bans.

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