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January 15, 2018, 10:38:53 PM
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IOTA is long term investment. I will buy more.

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January 16, 2018, 04:54:54 AM
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Alreay has surpassed bitcoin, if you will buy more for long term investment, then it can surpass cryptocurrency market caps which will never be happened. so as a fair advice. sell all your iotas please. this project was just a mad philosophy of the creator who was dumb enough. it is not solving any real world problem. no demand indeed.

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What a beautiful, perfect, falling wedge in the Iota chart. I've sold out of my other tokens and now 100% iota. This baby is getting ready to fly.

never go 100% in a single coin, no matter how much you believe in it. You are risking way too much. Also, I don't really think iota has that much room to grow. You can make a bet on it, but don't go all in.

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January 16, 2018, 09:25:44 AM
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Dutch municipalities about to use IOTA for digital services in 2018

https://discipl.org/dutch-municipalities-about-to-use-iota-for-digital-services-in-2018/

Like everybody in the Netherlands, Haarlem citizens still need an official paper document when asked to prove that they live in the municipality by organizations like housing corporations. This means making an appointment with a clerk at the municipal office and paying 20 euros to get a fancy sheet of paper with a stamp on it. Now, this awful user experience and inefficient process is about to change thanks to IOTA – a cutting-edge distributed nonprofit open source technology.

In collaboration with ICTU and Xurux, Haarlem created a proof of concept in which the citizens use the Haarlem website to retrieve a publicly attested claim. The citizen logs into the website with existing IDM services (currently DigID) and retrieves a QR code. This QR code is kept by the citizen, and holds information stating that they are known to live in Haarlem, as well as a pointer to the attestation of the claim published by the municipality on a public ledger platform.

Once published, the attestation is considered anonymous and cannot be traced back to the claim – not even by the municipality itself. This is because it is a 384 bit keyed hash of the claim where the key is solely owned by the citizen and other parties that the citizen chooses to share the claim with. The citizen can use the claim, key and pointer to prove their citizenship to others and have it validated without the need of a third party.

Soon, citizens will be able to get their claims attested and validated wherever they want to, wherever they are. Another great advantage of the new process is that Haarlem would be able to charge their citizens significantly less than before – this is mainly due to the fact that newer distributed ledger technology safely allows for zero fee transactions. Also unlike blockchain, one of the most well-known distributed ledger technologies, Directed Acyclic Graph-based solutions like IOTA tend to scale much better and do not consume much energy.

 Discipl Core
This pilot project is the first project utilizing Discipl Core. ICTU launched the Discipl[1] concept in 2017 to boost open source innovation for a digital society architecture utilizing distributed ledger technology. Discipl consists of a vision in which society progressed towards a highly automated economy of abundance, quite inspired on writings of Miki Kashtan. It strongly focuses on automated fulfillment of people needs at zero cost. To get to such a society, the idea is to focus on a path to zero cost by adhering to a manifesto stating solutions need to be free in usage, open source, highly automated and easily reproducible/deployable. Also, solutions should fit a so called Discipl Pattern, currently defined as a form of e-democracy which focuses on conflicting needs resolution using a mix of AI and human guided convergent facilitation. To support the development of such solutions ICTU introduced Discipl Core which will be an implementation of a Discipl Pattern supporting API and which is based upon a Self-Sovereign Identity and Verifiable Claims API.

For now a first version of this latter API with a binding to the IOTA platform and its Masked Authenticated Messaging extension feature (used in public mode) is what is being used by Haarlem for the first time. IOTA is what makes Discipl solutions possible now. This first project with Haarlem is also a step towards Self Sovereign Identity in combination with Personal Data Sources in which people are more in control of and possessing their own data, even to a level there’s no need any more for central registers owned by third parties as we only need citizens as prosumers (both consumer as producer) that care for all needs to be fulfilled in a smart and nonviolent way.

In 2018 an ever increasing number of projects at local, national and even international level are queued to evolve Discipl Core and the Discipl Community around that even further with improved and extended functionality. ICTU will also collaborate with Miki Kashtan and partners to define and implement the Discipl Pattern in more detail in 2018.

We’ve only just begun
The proof of concept of this particular use case quickly got a lot of attention from other municipalities. When hearing about the project, Amsterdam immediately expressed great interest its progress. And, of course, frontrunner municipalities like Haarlem know of a lot more use cases for which similar distributed solutions can be developed.

Organizations utilizing these solutions (attesting and validating claims) will run their own IOTA nodes and there may even be a need for IOTA permanodes (once released) at national level. As this increases the number of IOTA nodes, it will help stabilize and improve the IOTA network – and therefore the solutions built upon it.  There’s no need for usage fees or acquiring cryptotokens as digital money with these solutions. With nonprofit open source distributed ledger technology like IOTA we can actually let go of these old concepts and create new, more streamlined processes for the future, returning to a more unconditional giving/receiving state of being[2].

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January 16, 2018, 10:41:17 AM
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What a beautiful, perfect, falling wedge in the Iota chart. I've sold out of my other tokens and now 100% iota. This baby is getting ready to fly.

never go 100% in a single coin, no matter how much you believe in it. You are risking way too much. Also, I don't really think iota has that much room to grow. You can make a bet on it, but don't go all in.

Wise spoken, I fully agree. Find at least 3-5 trustful project, do in-depth research about them and split your investment. IOTA is a cool project, but it's still high-risk.

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January 16, 2018, 11:10:02 AM
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Thanks to China`s New Year! Take advantage of the great sale!!! Time for buy  Wink
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January 16, 2018, 11:19:04 AM
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What a beautiful, perfect, falling wedge in the Iota chart. I've sold out of my other tokens and now 100% iota. This baby is getting ready to fly.

never go 100% in a single coin, no matter how much you believe in it. You are risking way too much. Also, I don't really think iota has that much room to grow. You can make a bet on it, but don't go all in.

Wise spoken, I fully agree. Find at least 3-5 trustful project, do in-depth research about them and split your investment. IOTA is a cool project, but it's still high-risk.

Indeed. Lessen your risk. Play smart, not play hard.
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January 16, 2018, 11:42:31 AM
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What a beautiful, perfect, falling wedge in the Iota chart. I've sold out of my other tokens and now 100% iota. This baby is getting ready to fly.

never go 100% in a single coin, no matter how much you believe in it. You are risking way too much. Also, I don't really think iota has that much room to grow. You can make a bet on it, but don't go all in.

Wise spoken, I fully agree. Find at least 3-5 trustful project, do in-depth research about them and split your investment. IOTA is a cool project, but it's still high-risk.

Indeed. Lessen your risk. Play smart, not play hard.

I used to go all-in on IOTA back in the time, both for buy and sale. How, being "wiser", I kept some free USD in the exchanges, so the moment IOTA dropped to 3USD, I reinvested in it. Still have some free buck though, as we might see another bottom soon (thanks Bitcoin).

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January 16, 2018, 12:10:23 PM
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Hi,

what is a good wallet for storing IOTA?

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January 16, 2018, 12:47:19 PM
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Hi,

what is a good wallet for storing IOTA?

https://github.com/iotaledger/wallet/releases
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January 16, 2018, 01:27:03 PM
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I read that many people have problems with the wallets for IOTA. either they dont show up in the wallets at all after being sent or mysteriously disappear.
thats why i wanted to check with you guys what are you using and what is the best solution right now?

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January 16, 2018, 01:52:50 PM
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I read that many people have problems with the wallets for IOTA. either they dont show up in the wallets at all after being sent or mysteriously disappear.
thats why i wanted to check with you guys what are you using and what is the best solution right now?

It works very well for me. This new version is much much better than the old ones. I think majority of iota users are using this client and have no problems. A few users may have problems becasue they don’t know how to correctly operate the wallet. You do need a little bit skill to correctly operate this wallet as mentioned below.

The single most important first step to send transaction is to check if the server you get connected is synced. The servers are not always synced. To check the synced status, you can compare the two milestone numbers (in the nodeinfo under Tools) in your wallet to the most recent milestone number in the #botbox of the Slack. If all the three numbers are same, your wallet or your server is synced. If they are not same you need either wait for them to be same or simply change a server node. Most users will simply switch to a new synced node.

After you have done the above first step correctly, you can make the transaction. I would say 80% of times your transactions will get confirmed in 30 minutes.

If your trasanction does not get confirmed in 30 minutes, you can do the Promoting (previously called Reattaching). You will see it if clicking the bundle next to the transaction in the History in your wallet. You can do the Promoting once every 30 minutes. But make sure you do the first step to make sure your wallet is synced first every time.

If you do the above steps correctly 99% of your transaction should get confirmed within one Promoting and most will be confirmed without Promoting.

Also don’t send a second transaction before your first transaction gets confirmed. If you do so, one of the transactions will never get confirmed becasue your remaining balance will be automatically moved to a new address in your wallet after either one of the transactions gets confirmed.

It is also a good practice for you to always create a new address to receive a new in coiming transaction.
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January 16, 2018, 03:32:53 PM
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I read that many people have problems with the wallets for IOTA. either they dont show up in the wallets at all after being sent or mysteriously disappear.
thats why i wanted to check with you guys what are you using and what is the best solution right now?

It works very well for me. This new version is much much better than the old ones. I think majority of iota users are using this client and have no problems. A few users may have problems becasue they don’t know how to correctly operate the wallet. You do need a little bit skill to correctly operate this wallet as mentioned below.

The single most important first step to send transaction is to check if the server you get connected is synced. The servers are not always synced. To check the synced status, you can compare the two milestone numbers (in the nodeinfo under Tools) in your wallet to the most recent milestone number in the #botbox of the Slack. If all the three numbers are same, your wallet or your server is synced. If they are not same you need either wait for them to be same or simply change a server node. Most users will simply switch to a new synced node.

After you have done the above first step correctly, you can make the transaction. I would say 80% of times your transactions will get confirmed in 30 minutes.

If your trasanction does not get confirmed in 30 minutes, you can do the Promoting (previously called Reattaching). You will see it if clicking the bundle next to the transaction in the History in your wallet. You can do the Promoting once every 30 minutes. But make sure you do the first step to make sure your wallet is synced first every time.

If you do the above steps correctly 99% of your transaction should get confirmed within one Promoting and most will be confirmed without Promoting.

Also don’t send a second transaction before your first transaction gets confirmed. If you do so, one of the transactions will never get confirmed becasue your remaining balance will be automatically moved to a new address in your wallet after either one of the transactions gets confirmed.

It is also a good practice for you to always create a new address to receive a new in coiming transaction.

Thanks a lot of your post.
I appreciate it!

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January 16, 2018, 03:40:24 PM
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Dutch municipalities about to use IOTA for digital services in 2018

https://discipl.org/dutch-municipalities-about-to-use-iota-for-digital-services-in-2018/

Like everybody in the Netherlands, Haarlem citizens still need an official paper document when asked to prove that they live in the municipality by organizations like housing corporations. This means making an appointment with a clerk at the municipal office and paying 20 euros to get a fancy sheet of paper with a stamp on it. Now, this awful user experience and inefficient process is about to change thanks to IOTA – a cutting-edge distributed nonprofit open source technology.

In collaboration with ICTU and Xurux, Haarlem created a proof of concept in which the citizens use the Haarlem website to retrieve a publicly attested claim. The citizen logs into the website with existing IDM services (currently DigID) and retrieves a QR code. This QR code is kept by the citizen, and holds information stating that they are known to live in Haarlem, as well as a pointer to the attestation of the claim published by the municipality on a public ledger platform.

Once published, the attestation is considered anonymous and cannot be traced back to the claim – not even by the municipality itself. This is because it is a 384 bit keyed hash of the claim where the key is solely owned by the citizen and other parties that the citizen chooses to share the claim with. The citizen can use the claim, key and pointer to prove their citizenship to others and have it validated without the need of a third party.

Soon, citizens will be able to get their claims attested and validated wherever they want to, wherever they are. Another great advantage of the new process is that Haarlem would be able to charge their citizens significantly less than before – this is mainly due to the fact that newer distributed ledger technology safely allows for zero fee transactions. Also unlike blockchain, one of the most well-known distributed ledger technologies, Directed Acyclic Graph-based solutions like IOTA tend to scale much better and do not consume much energy.

 Discipl Core
This pilot project is the first project utilizing Discipl Core. ICTU launched the Discipl[1] concept in 2017 to boost open source innovation for a digital society architecture utilizing distributed ledger technology. Discipl consists of a vision in which society progressed towards a highly automated economy of abundance, quite inspired on writings of Miki Kashtan. It strongly focuses on automated fulfillment of people needs at zero cost. To get to such a society, the idea is to focus on a path to zero cost by adhering to a manifesto stating solutions need to be free in usage, open source, highly automated and easily reproducible/deployable. Also, solutions should fit a so called Discipl Pattern, currently defined as a form of e-democracy which focuses on conflicting needs resolution using a mix of AI and human guided convergent facilitation. To support the development of such solutions ICTU introduced Discipl Core which will be an implementation of a Discipl Pattern supporting API and which is based upon a Self-Sovereign Identity and Verifiable Claims API.

For now a first version of this latter API with a binding to the IOTA platform and its Masked Authenticated Messaging extension feature (used in public mode) is what is being used by Haarlem for the first time. IOTA is what makes Discipl solutions possible now. This first project with Haarlem is also a step towards Self Sovereign Identity in combination with Personal Data Sources in which people are more in control of and possessing their own data, even to a level there’s no need any more for central registers owned by third parties as we only need citizens as prosumers (both consumer as producer) that care for all needs to be fulfilled in a smart and nonviolent way.

In 2018 an ever increasing number of projects at local, national and even international level are queued to evolve Discipl Core and the Discipl Community around that even further with improved and extended functionality. ICTU will also collaborate with Miki Kashtan and partners to define and implement the Discipl Pattern in more detail in 2018.

We’ve only just begun
The proof of concept of this particular use case quickly got a lot of attention from other municipalities. When hearing about the project, Amsterdam immediately expressed great interest its progress. And, of course, frontrunner municipalities like Haarlem know of a lot more use cases for which similar distributed solutions can be developed.

Organizations utilizing these solutions (attesting and validating claims) will run their own IOTA nodes and there may even be a need for IOTA permanodes (once released) at national level. As this increases the number of IOTA nodes, it will help stabilize and improve the IOTA network – and therefore the solutions built upon it.  There’s no need for usage fees or acquiring cryptotokens as digital money with these solutions. With nonprofit open source distributed ledger technology like IOTA we can actually let go of these old concepts and create new, more streamlined processes for the future, returning to a more unconditional giving/receiving state of being[2].

The same rainy day author appeared, reading this news, my heart full of hope, has bought 1,000 US dollars, for such projects, I will choose to invest on a regular basis

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January 16, 2018, 07:20:52 PM
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When will the new purse be released? Promised in January, but so far silence. Somebody knows?
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January 16, 2018, 07:25:40 PM
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https://blog.iota.org/iota-tel-aviv-office-is-official-5715aec23a1e
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January 16, 2018, 07:29:17 PM
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When will the new purse be released? Promised in January, but so far silence. Somebody knows?

Don't be impatient. IOTA has always delivered. There are still two weeks to go and the team is hardworking. IOTA is the most promising project in the crypto space run by a well-known and reliable team. If you follow blog.iota.org you see articles with a many hints for good maybe big news coming up.

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OK guys, been watching this whole crypto market since Oct and one thing is clear at this point - all coins are tied to Bitcoin, if Bitcoin farts all alts shit themselves across the board, does not matter how good is the coin that you hold or how revolutionary it is - as soon as soon as BTC goes down alts are down... The whole market is build around BTC, we think we are holding different coins, but in fact it's like everyone is holding BTC, so can anyone logically explain to me what's the point of investing in different coins when at the end of the day it all comes down to a shitcoin like BTC?

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January 17, 2018, 01:53:01 AM
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OK guys, been watching this whole crypto market since Oct and one thing is clear at this point - all coins are tied to Bitcoin, if Bitcoin farts all alts shit themselves across the board, does not matter how good is the coin that you hold or how revolutionary it is - as soon as soon as BTC goes down alts are down... The whole market is build around BTC, we think we are holding different coins, but in fact it's like everyone is holding BTC, so can anyone logically explain to me what's the point of investing in different coins when at the end of the day it all comes down to a shitcoin like BTC?

Well said and a good question.  The answer is you cannot mine bitcoin easily now as 80% of bitcoin supply has been mined and only 20% remains. so it's easier to mine altcoins at low difficulty even purchase coins and hodl them to make profit.

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