IOTA

[iotatoken]

But some of them at least don't openly state that they will buy their own coins at the last moment, when there is enough info for them to calculate how much BTC they need to transfer from their left pocket to their right pocket, to get desirable share of their tokens.

One more of these false accusations stated only to make yourself feel useful and you will be perma-banned from this thread. This thread is not even the sale thread of IOTA, but the general IOTA thread which should be focused around the software and community.

As for your false claim: I will decide how much to buy based on a completely different factor. I don't want to become a big IOTA 'whale'. Marc De Mesel can actually back up this, he asked me a month ago how much I would purchase and I told him that I did not want to buy a big amount for myself as I wanted the distribution to be widespread, so the amount I would put in would be largely determined by how much was already bought. To me the distribution of IOTA and long term success is a lot more important than my own holding.

And this bullshit about 'transfer from left to right pocket' is just that, bullshit. All our holdings are personal, not company ones. The funds will go to pay for development of hardware, software and community growth.

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[bitcatch]

But some of them at least don't openly state that they will buy their own coins at the last moment, when there is enough info for them to calculate how much BTC they need to transfer from their left pocket to their right pocket, to get desirable share of their tokens.

One more of these false accusations stated only to make yourself feel useful and you will be perma-banned from this thread. This thread is not even the sale thread of IOTA, but the general IOTA thread which should be focused around the software and community.

As for your false claim: I will decide how much to buy based on a completely different factor. I don't want to become a big IOTA 'whale'. Marc De Mesel can actually back up this, he asked me a month ago how much I would purchase and I told him that I did not want to buy a big amount for myself as I wanted the distribution to be widespread, so the amount I would put in would be largely determined by how much was already bought. To me the distribution of IOTA and long term success is a lot more important than my own holding.

And this bullshit about 'transfer from left to right pocket' is just that, bullshit. All our holdings are personal, not company ones. The funds will go to pay for development of hardware, software and community growth.

There is an easy way to achieve those honorable goals without being accused in cheating, scamming, etc.: use burning instead of classical IPO. Like XCP did.

[iotatoken]

There is an easy way to achieve those honorable goals without being accused in cheating, scamming, etc.: use burning instead of classical IPO. Like XCP did.

How would that fund development?

[Come-from-Beyond]

Guys, move to a special thread, please.

Bitcatch has a legit concern, unfortunatelly, there is no a way to solve the issue so if he thinks if he should buy iotas or not then it's better to spend money on something else (spending money on a gf is the best choice, IMO). If he asks questions to warn the others - I get such behavior, usually it's caused by the wish to make this world better. In this case I suggest to create a separate thread and post the link here. This thread has already been derailed, let's branch out long convos to dedicated threads.

PS: From now only the link to the dedicated thread is allowed. All other posts will be deleted.

[BTCDDev]

The trolling here is pitiful, but I expected no less from BitcoinTalk.

I figured that if Iota is successful, people would then complain about the crowdsale how they complain about missing the Nxt initial buyin period.

However, it seems the complaining is even starting during the initial 'Pioneer' phase. 

[LiQio]

[...]spending money on a gf is the best choice, IMO[...]

I guess the "a" is used instead of "the" on purpose 

(and yes, you may delete this post - no hard feelings)

[tolstoy]

Physicists achieve quantum entanglement at room temperature.

Quantum entanglement at ambient conditions in a macroscopic solid-state spin ensemble.  Science Advances, 20 Nov 2015
http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/1/10/e1501015.full

On-chip zero-index metamaterials.  Nature Photonics, 19 October 2015
http://www.nature.com/nphoton/journal/v9/n11/full/nphoton.2015.198.html
http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/hardware/zeroindex-metamaterials-open-new-possibilities-in-optical-chips

With progress being made daily, it's only a matter of time before some major breakthrough is made in quantum computing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_quantum_computing

[1btcdream]

This is a simple question for Come-from-Beyond, from a grade scale of 1 (doubtful) to 10 (confident) how sure are you that IOTA would be successful? Choose a number from 1 to 10, any other answer not required. 

[megges]

This is a simple question for Come-from-Beyond, from a grade scale of 1 (doubtful) to 10 (confident) how sure are you that IOTA would be successful? Choose a number from 1 to 10, any other answer not required.  

how could someone answer this question? Crystalball?

And the term "success" can be anything from, working "coin", to price rise, to adoption, to .... i guess you have to define what you mean by successful.

For me this seems not to be a simple question!

[iotatoken]

This is a simple question for Come-from-Beyond, from a grade scale of 1 (doubtful) to 10 (confident) how sure are you that IOTA would be successful? Choose a number from 1 to 10, any other answer not required.  

This question cannot really be answered without legal implications. The only thing we can say is that we would not be wasting our time with it if we ourselves did not see the potential in the software that is IOTA. Whether you think it'll fail or succeed (whatever parameters you use to measure this) is 100% up to you.

[Come-from-Beyond]

This is a simple question for Come-from-Beyond, from a grade scale of 1 (doubtful) to 10 (confident) how sure are you that IOTA would be successful? Choose a number from 1 to 10, any other answer not required. 

7.62

[1btcdream]

This is a simple question for Come-from-Beyond, from a grade scale of 1 (doubtful) to 10 (confident) how sure are you that IOTA would be successful? Choose a number from 1 to 10, any other answer not required. 

7.62

After seeing your answer I would definitely invest in IOTA. Thanks! 

[Come-from-Beyond]

After seeing your answer I would definitely invest in IOTA. Thanks! 

Hm, it looks like you invest into me. If it's so I insist that you think again, too much burden for me if anyone buys iotas because of my involvement.

[1btcdream]

After seeing your answer I would definitely invest in IOTA. Thanks! 

Hm, it looks like you invest into me. If it's so I insist that you think again, too much burden for me if anyone buys iotas because of my involvement.

Need not to worry I only invest in IOTA. But I have trust in IOTA dev team. 

[iotatoken]

After seeing your answer I would definitely invest in IOTA. Thanks! 

Hm, it looks like you invest into me. If it's so I insist that you think again, too much burden for me if anyone buys iotas because of my involvement.

Need not to worry I only invest in IOTA. But I have trust in IOTA dev team. 

IOTA is software, not investment. If you are saying that you are BUYING the software, fine. Just making sure that you don't think IOTA is a security or investment, as explained in the risk document, it's not.

[azwccc]

How many devs do you have? How many other staffs do you have?

How long have IOTA been developed, by how many devs?

Thanks,

[iotatoken]

How many devs do you have? How many other staffs do you have?

In our start-up or on IOTA specifically, excluding the hardware side? If the latter: 3.

How long have IOTA been developed, by how many devs?

We officially began work on IOTA as a dedicated project this summer.

[Komputor]

http://www.iot-a.eu/public

Something interesting.

[lordoliver]

http://www.iot-a.eu/public

Something interesting.

wtf. seems like a name change is advisable...

[iotatoken]

http://www.iot-a.eu/public

Something interesting.

wtf. seems like a name change is advisable...

Haha, no. While interesting, this is not an issue at all IMO. They don't even seem active.