IOTA

[rtrtcrypto]

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[twistelaar]

till when to claim our IOTA?

[rtrtcrypto]

90 days from end of sale... sooner the better though *launch wise*

till when to claim our IOTA?

[Come-from-Beyond]

Re: Quantum

One particular interesting consequence is that with the current plan for Serenity, Ethereum will be optionally quantum-safe; if you are scared of the NSA having access to a quantum computer, and want to protect your account more securely, you can personally switch to Lamport signatures at any time.

Can signatures themselves actually do the trick?   

They're going with Lamport as opposed to Winternitz...   not that I know what any of that means of course...   lol   

Lamport scheme is very similar to Winternitz one.

[l8orre]

ok, here it is:

http://188.138.57.93/ac

[Come-from-Beyond]

I kind of figured that out because the one-time thing was mentioned, but, can one actually get the job done by just using a signature scheme?

No, there is a much more serious problem - PoW blockchains can be mined much faster by QCs, but Ethereum is switching to PoS, so this problem will be solved automatically. If PoS blockchains are secure in postquantum age is a question that wasn't analyzed closely though.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Edit:  To be fair...   it's more like Casper + Lamport than just using a signature scheme...   still makes me wonder if that will be enough compared to the Iota approach.

Casper is claimed to be very lightweight, if it's true then Iota and Ethereum may compete for the same place under the sun. Taking into account that Ethereum is working on specialized hardware too we can say that Ethereum has what Iota does + Turing-complete language for smart-contracts. I left a possibility to add smart-contracts into Iota in case if Iota and Ethereum communities pick competition over cooperation. Interesting times ahead...

[Come-from-Beyond]

I've got an interesting link:

http://www.meetup.com/bitcoin-il/events/227289840/

Bitcoin and other blockchain-based crypto-currencies do not easily scale to process a high throughput of transactions, or to quickly approve individual transactions. When block creation rates and block sizes are accelerated, networking delays cause many conflicts to occur and the security of the protocol quickly degrades.

We present a new "chainless'' protocol for the consensus core of crypto-currencies that remains secure even when delays are substantial. During the talk, we will present various attacks and naive attempts to solve them that slowly develop and lead to our current approach.

[allwelder]

I've got an interesting link:

http://www.meetup.com/bitcoin-il/events/227289840/

Bitcoin and other blockchain-based crypto-currencies do not easily scale to process a high throughput of transactions, or to quickly approve individual transactions. When block creation rates and block sizes are accelerated, networking delays cause many conflicts to occur and the security of the protocol quickly degrades.

We present a new "chainless'' protocol for the consensus core of crypto-currencies that remains secure even when delays are substantial. During the talk, we will present various attacks and naive attempts to solve them that slowly develop and lead to our current approach.

Much like IOTA.

What's the exact name for this chainless protocol, dag?

[anewafresh]

I've got an interesting link:

http://www.meetup.com/bitcoin-il/events/227289840/

Bitcoin and other blockchain-based crypto-currencies do not easily scale to process a high throughput of transactions, or to quickly approve individual transactions. When block creation rates and block sizes are accelerated, networking delays cause many conflicts to occur and the security of the protocol quickly degrades.

We present a new "chainless'' protocol for the consensus core of crypto-currencies that remains secure even when delays are substantial. During the talk, we will present various attacks and naive attempts to solve them that slowly develop and lead to our current approach.

Much like IOTA.

What's the exact name for this chainless protocol, dag?

The comment section has a link to the video of the event. The lecture is in Hebrew though : https://youtu.be/xbEaNSIv00U

But the slides are in English:  http://bitcoil.co.il/files/Bitcoin_meetup_Chainless.pptx

[50cent_rapper]

I've got an interesting link:

http://www.meetup.com/bitcoin-il/events/227289840/

Bitcoin and other blockchain-based crypto-currencies do not easily scale to process a high throughput of transactions, or to quickly approve individual transactions. When block creation rates and block sizes are accelerated, networking delays cause many conflicts to occur and the security of the protocol quickly degrades.

We present a new "chainless'' protocol for the consensus core of crypto-currencies that remains secure even when delays are substantial. During the talk, we will present various attacks and naive attempts to solve them that slowly develop and lead to our current approach.

Much like IOTA.

What's the exact name for this chainless protocol, dag?

The comment section has a link to the video of the event. The lecture is in Hebrew though : https://youtu.be/xbEaNSIv00U

But the slides are in English:  http://bitcoil.co.il/files/Bitcoin_meetup_Chainless.pptx

Really interesting, they talk about DAG too!

So in different places of the world the idea of DAG start to appear at the end of 2015.

It's extremly importand to launch iota in January - the winner takes it all.
Everyone knew who was the first man on the moon... but majority don't remember who was the second one.  

[rtrtcrypto]

How far ahead are we at this stage? We are launching soon, and the others? Still in white paper stage?

Thx,

I've got an interesting link:

http://www.meetup.com/bitcoin-il/events/227289840/

Bitcoin and other blockchain-based crypto-currencies do not easily scale to process a high throughput of transactions, or to quickly approve individual transactions. When block creation rates and block sizes are accelerated, networking delays cause many conflicts to occur and the security of the protocol quickly degrades.

We present a new "chainless'' protocol for the consensus core of crypto-currencies that remains secure even when delays are substantial. During the talk, we will present various attacks and naive attempts to solve them that slowly develop and lead to our current approach.

Much like IOTA.

What's the exact name for this chainless protocol, dag?

The comment section has a link to the video of the event. The lecture is in Hebrew though : https://youtu.be/xbEaNSIv00U

But the slides are in English:  http://bitcoil.co.il/files/Bitcoin_meetup_Chainless.pptx

Really interesting, they talk about DAG too!

So in different places of the world the idea of DAG start to appear at the end of 2015.

It's extremly importand to launch iota in January - the winner takes it all.
Everyone knew who was the first man on the moon... but majority don't remember who was the second one.  

[smooth]

The paper was presented at Scaling bitcoin in English. Probably easy to find on youtube but I don't have a link. Though from my recollection of the talk, the slides pretty much cover it.

EDIT: here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fst1IK_mrngt=9949

[Videodrome]

The paper was presented at Scaling bitcoin in English. Probably easy to find on youtube but I don't have a link. Though from my recollection of the talk, the slides pretty much cover it.

EDIT: here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fst1IK_mrngt=9949

Are you here to troll or what? GO AWAY

Maybe just buy MOAR Monero nom nom nom cheap coinz !111111

[Tobo]

How far ahead are we at this stage? We are launching soon, and the others? Still in white paper stage?
Thx,

The page45 of the PowerPont mentions what is still missing for their POC -

What else is still missing?
Fees and minting – we have a scheme
Efficient implementations
SPV  (w/ extra validation rules) To enable light clients, sidechains, etc.
More details about difficulty adjustments

[Come-from-Beyond]

How far ahead are we at this stage? We are launching soon, and the others? Still in white paper stage?
Thx,

The page45 of the PowerPont mentions what is still missing for their POC -

What else is still missing?
Fees and minting – we have a scheme
Efficient implementations
SPV  (w/ extra validation rules) To enable light clients, sidechains, etc.
More details about difficulty adjustments

Would be neat to find how to implement fees and minting. We haven't found a scheme that could work.

[canth]

Interesting article with Marc Andreessen's thoughts on IoT:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/12050185/Marc-Andreessen-In-20-years-every-physical-item-will-have-a-chip-implanted-in-it.html

"The idea that we have a single piece of glowing display is too limiting. By then, every table, every wall, every surface will have a screen or can project," he told the Telegraph. "Hypothetically you walk upto a wall, sit at a table and [talk to] an earpiece or eyeglasses to make a call. The term is ambient or ubiquitous computing."

[cryptomite]

I am very surprised this isnt on more people's radar

[iotatoken]

I am very surprised this isnt on more people's radar

Well, put it on more people's radar
Hype takes time to build, we're only 2 months into this being public knowledge. Spread the word

[Tobo]

Interesting article with Marc Andreessen's thoughts on IoT:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/12050185/Marc-Andreessen-In-20-years-every-physical-item-will-have-a-chip-implanted-in-it.html

I think people like Marc Andreessen should be interested in Jinn and companies like Samsara could be interested in Iota.