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March 08, 2016, 08:21:36 AM
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Darn. I missed the troll-fest? Ill put my troll hunter's kit back in the closet.

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March 08, 2016, 09:14:56 AM
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Any chance CfB that you will be the V Buterin of IOTA...i.e. giving public presentations, etc?
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March 08, 2016, 09:18:40 AM
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Any chance CfB that you will be the V Buterin of IOTA...i.e. giving public presentations, etc?

No, I'm just a coder.
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March 08, 2016, 10:59:48 AM
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March 08, 2016, 11:14:24 AM
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Any chance CfB that you will be the V Buterin of IOTA...i.e. giving public presentations, etc?

No, I'm just a coder.

No sir, you are more than that.

Admittedly your appearances on talkshows might be somewhat monosyllabic,
but youre a funny guy (like the straightguy in a duo)

Q. Did you change the world?
A. Yes. Yes I did

Audience LOLS

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March 08, 2016, 11:48:27 AM
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I'm surprised at how many post here about GUI. If you're so worried about it why aren't you in Ryver where you get live updates about it? Makes absolutely no sense.

As I have described if Dan Warfel didn't deliver, I had other devs lined up, which is who I have officially given the job to now. I gave Dan countless warnings and told him exactly what would happen, he clearly did not care, like a true scammer. Now he better refund the money or face legal repercussions, it's that simple for him. He is fired and can't salvage anything in this regard, his lies cost us 2 weeks of time (on the frontend, not backend, backend is evolving like it should)

But I'll be damned if I'll allow incompetent people to become the focal point of the IOTA discussions here, so instead focus on getting stuff done that helps IOTA. We're teaming up with some really interesting projects that will be announced soon.

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March 08, 2016, 12:02:03 PM
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Thank you very much.
This just confirms one more time my experience: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1216479.msg14072706#msg14072706
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March 08, 2016, 12:33:13 PM
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Any chance CfB that you will be the V Buterin of IOTA...i.e. giving public presentations, etc?

I do agree that Iota needs a face.
I think one of the reasons nxt didn't take off as it could have, is that it didn't have a special someone like Vitalik.
If it's not cfb, how about David?
Do you think of any more candidates?
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March 08, 2016, 12:35:10 PM
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Any chance CfB that you will be the V Buterin of IOTA...i.e. giving public presentations, etc?

I do agree that Iota needs a face.
I think one of the reasons nxt didn't take off as it could have, is that it didn't have a special someone like Vitalik.
If it's not cfb, how about David?
Do you think of any more candidates?

Someone who likes to speak publicly and willing to ride over the world, making presenations on IoT events. I think this guy will appear naturally during 2016 year.
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March 08, 2016, 01:14:11 PM
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Imagine if Andreas Antonopoulos was a nxt or iota believer. That guy could convince a dehydrated man dying in the desert drinking his own water will kill him.

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March 08, 2016, 01:46:48 PM
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Any chance CfB that you will be the V Buterin of IOTA...i.e. giving public presentations, etc?

I do agree that Iota needs a face.
I think one of the reasons nxt didn't take off as it could have, is that it didn't have a special someone like Vitalik.
If it's not cfb, how about David?
Do you think of any more candidates?

I would say David already is.
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March 08, 2016, 02:03:57 PM
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Any chance CfB that you will be the V Buterin of IOTA...i.e. giving public presentations, etc?

I do agree that Iota needs a face.
I think one of the reasons nxt didn't take off as it could have, is that it didn't have a special someone like Vitalik.
If it's not cfb, how about David?
Do you think of any more candidates?

My thoughts:

I joined Nxt in 2013 and lead the first organized effort to get Nxt on the right track, this was December 2013. I, together with 2 others got over 70 volunteers to sign-up and we laid out the plans for how we could leverage Nxt's unique position as a superior technology with a great time window on other projects like Bitshares and Ethereum. What happened? The Nxt whales refused to put up bounties. Some even promised bounties, but then didn't pay when work was delivered. This created a completely toxic environment and frankly disincentivized a lot of people from helping Nxt. Why would you want to work for free to make someone else rich, someone that doesn't even care to compensate you for the work you do? This was the biggest problem in Nxt.

However I do agree that Nxt being this faceless nameless project created by an anonymous person also contributed to its lackluster growth, this is why I initiated both Nxt Foundation and Nxt Organization to remedy this and try to build a core of people who would represent the project to the real world outside of the forums. This is also why I 'enforce' a "use your real name" in Ryver, because when you bring in execs who aren't used to forum monikers it looks really odd if half the guys got nicknames that make no sense, it does not instill trust and competency.

In IOTA, as the architect and manager I am already the 'de facto' name and face of IOTA publicly and I presume that will continue to be the case as long as I lead the project and negotiations. I don't mind this, my intention was always to be public. IOTA is a project for the real world, not some esoteric 'movement' in the shadows. BUT like I have stated numerous times: it's important that IOTA does not depend on just one or a handful of guys. This is why CfB describes himself as a "simple coder", he does not want this hero status because it will lead people to draw irrational conclusions based on his activity within IOTA. You cannot have one or a couple of people be larger than the project itself, once that happens it is way too vulnerable, which makes companies weary of adopting it. The 3 founders (Me, CfB and Mtchl) will of course always have our 'position', but we're already seeing people such as Dominik, Stas, George as well as others who help out immensely with spreading the word and getting real projects from the real world on board. We'll see plenty more such people join as soon as we launch, so these positions will emerge organically IMO.

At the moment my name is all over the internet tied to IOTA due to several interviews and articles, which is good since I am in the middle of negotiating a lot of potential opportunities for IOTA, but I cannot be the sole representative, it leads to IOTA being way too reliant on me, which is very unhealthy. Another issue is the fact that travelling to tens of conferences per year cost A LOT and they usually overlap in time, and usually there is very little reason for there to be the same person at every event, the presentation itself is what matters the most, so having different representatives in different regions of the world is undoubtedly the most efficient in terms of time and cost. But don't worry, I have no plans of stepping down my involvement in ensuring IOTA's success, on the contrary, IOTA is important for our vision for our hardware start-up too.


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March 08, 2016, 02:08:54 PM
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I'm surprised at how many post here about GUI.

Ok u learnt something.
Where the GUI David?

Already addressed like 5 posts up, read.

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March 08, 2016, 02:09:07 PM
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Man, GUI dev got fired, new one started... we have to wait again. Not sure what kind of answer you will want. A time line? Has that been going well so far to give out time lines?

I mean, just forget about it for a few weeks and things will come along, SOMEONE out there must be able to deliver a GUI.

What we need is more microsoft level news anyway - as long as those things are being fought for behind the scenes, I'm ok with waiting more.



I'm surprised at how many post here about GUI.

Ok u learnt something.
Where the GUI David?
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March 08, 2016, 02:12:48 PM
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Any chance CfB that you will be the V Buterin of IOTA...i.e. giving public presentations, etc?

I do agree that Iota needs a face.
I think one of the reasons nxt didn't take off as it could have, is that it didn't have a special someone like Vitalik.
If it's not cfb, how about David?
Do you think of any more candidates?

What happened? The Nxt whales refused to put up bounties. Some even promised bounties, but then didn't pay when work was delivered. This created a completely toxic environment and frankly disincentivized a lot of people from helping Nxt. Why would you want to work for free to make someone else rich, someone that doesn't even care to compensate you for the work you do? This was the biggest problem in Nxt.


With the way the IPO was done isn't IOTA still being set up to follow the same path? Why do you believe it will be different this time?
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March 08, 2016, 02:20:35 PM
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I'm surprised at how many post here about GUI. If you're so worried about it why aren't you in Ryver where you get live updates about it? Makes absolutely no sense.

As I have described if Dan Warfel didn't deliver, I had other devs lined up, which is who I have officially given the job to now. I gave Dan countless warnings and told him exactly what would happen, he clearly did not care, like a true scammer. Now he better refund the money or face legal repercussions, it's that simple for him. He is fired and can't salvage anything in this regard, his lies cost us 2 weeks of time (on the frontend, not backend, backend is evolving like it should)

But I'll be damned if I'll allow incompetent people to become the focal point of the IOTA discussions here, so instead focus on getting stuff done that helps IOTA. We're teaming up with some really interesting projects that will be announced soon.

Can we know how many BTC this scammer have stolen?

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March 08, 2016, 02:22:51 PM
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Any chance CfB that you will be the V Buterin of IOTA...i.e. giving public presentations, etc?

I do agree that Iota needs a face.
I think one of the reasons nxt didn't take off as it could have, is that it didn't have a special someone like Vitalik.
If it's not cfb, how about David?
Do you think of any more candidates?

What happened? The Nxt whales refused to put up bounties. Some even promised bounties, but then didn't pay when work was delivered. This created a completely toxic environment and frankly disincentivized a lot of people from helping Nxt. Why would you want to work for free to make someone else rich, someone that doesn't even care to compensate you for the work you do? This was the biggest problem in Nxt.


With the way the IPO was done isn't IOTA still being set up to follow the same path? Why do you believe it will be different this time?

Not worried about it. The sale of iota software was nowhere near similar to Nxt ICO. We know from history that the real number of actual Nxt whales was less than 50 and they all put in just a few dollars. This was *pure* speculation. IOTA already got a half a million dollars of real money put into it by hundreds of people, this creates a strong incentive to ensure that IOTA gets real adoption. Nxt whales basically bought a lottery ticket and thought that there was no limit to how much it would be worth, so they refused to put up any bounties out of pure greed. This was also a very different time, VC money wasn't going into crypto yet, big companies hadn't even heard of 'blockchain' yet, all the other coins were copypastes etc. etc. This time around the world is very receptive to this technology and the ecosystem has matured a lot. Are there still greedy speculators? Of course, but even those who simply bought for speculation know now from experience that sitting on the tokens without doing anything is the worst strategy possible to get profits. To tie this back to the Nxt situation: if the whales had even just put up 10% of their holdings they would've grown the Nxt ecosystem probably 100fold and ensured that their remaining 90% would have become SO MUCH MORE valuable than it ever became. So the Nxt whales essentially lost countless millions on their greed.

But I also believe it will be different this time because IOTA is a project with a clear market, clear roadmap and clear vision. Nxt was not. Nxt just had some peripheral ideological basis of decentralization and a ton of features that were just created without anyone ever asking: "Who is going to use this?" In IOTA we only care about the real life solutions.

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March 08, 2016, 02:23:51 PM
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Man, GUI dev got fired, new one started... we have to wait again. Not sure what kind of answer you will want. A time line? Has that been going well so far to give out time lines?

I mean, just forget about it for a few weeks and things will come along, SOMEONE out there must be able to deliver a GUI.

What we need is more microsoft level news anyway - as long as those things are being fought for behind the scenes, I'm ok with waiting more.



I'm surprised at how many post here about GUI.

Ok u learnt something.
Where the GUI David?

I think the same way.

child_harold, don't think about IOTA as any other crypto, think about it as B2B tech which start-up is trying to promote to some big corporations. If you will start view it this way you'll see that gui and exchanges is not a big deal.
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March 08, 2016, 02:29:53 PM
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@David

Sort it out asap

PS If  u say the GUI dont matter Im booking the next flight to NorLand… savvy?

PPS I got too much time on my hands

Did you just go full trollmode and I have to /ignore you? I already provided update earlier today about this, and I told you this a few minutes back.

And yeah, GUI doesn't matter for what IOTA truly is.

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