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June 07, 2011, 12:36:04 AM
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As a future medical professional I see this as absurd.

Some one doesn't like being cut out of the gravy train. BTW, has anyone here even heard of a single person you know EVER get sold fake antibiotics? Additionally antibiotics are a low margin product. Why would someone take all the time and money to counterfeit something that will sell for very little? Sounds to me like that is your medical indoctrination talking.

I'd rather have someone (Silk Road?) selling cocaine to anyone than selling strong antibiotics to anyone. Cocaine hurts the person who decides to use it, and his family, friends, perhaps strangers (if the user becomes violent)... but it does not threaten society as a whole.

Antibiotics do. Every time someone takes antibiotics, the possibility of antibiotic-resistant bacteria evolving approaches 1. Antibiotics have their uses, certainly. But they NEED to be regulated. The average person can't tell if they have a viral or a bacterial disease. So if they order amoxicillin online, take it, and get better in a week or so, they promptly associate amoxicillin with the disappearance of their ilness.

Already we're seeing MRSA and XRSA... and when bacteria become immune to a drug, that drug becomes worse than useless. There are a limited number of possible antibiotics, an even tinier number of /effective/ antibiotics.



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Of course, if you are a libertarian this can only be a good thing. The well being of the individual is always more important than the group....

Yes, you are right - people should remain ill and possibly die because some government or private entity deems them unworthy of treatment.

I'm actually not taking a position either way. There are arguements on both sides. The libitarian view is that the individual takes precedence and the group will benefit as a whole. There is nothing nasty about that comment - its just a statement of fact.

If you  live in a rich country with a public health system there is no problem in getting antibiotics at minimum cost after a visit to a doctor.
Choosing an antibiotic for a particular infection is not simple, it requires knowledge, that's why there's professionals who learn about it and get paid by someone to make a recommendation on best available knowledge.

You are right about the use of antibiotics in animals being a far more important source of resistance than over prescribing in humans. I dont need convincing there - the situation is completely outrageous.

And yes, a proportion of doctors are hopeless and dont give a rat's about their patients. They are basically selling them pills instead of tackling what is really behind their health problems. So yes, they will prescribe antibitoics the patient doesn't need to get their fee and get them out of  their office. But its only a proportion, I am sure it varies from place to place and maybe the US is worse than most. If I think I need antibiotics for an infection, I consult my local Dr, she sometimes thinks I do in which case they cost me about USD15 at the drugstore, sometimes she thinks I don't in which case the whole thing costs me nothing out of pocket. The doctor bills the government $30 for seeing me, or if I want to see her out at a busy time of day I pay $20 on top of that - but I digress.

No matter how you cut it there is a downside to freely available antibiotics because inevitably the chances of a wrong choice is going to rise when it is made without appropriate training, and this wrong choice will potentially affect others who were not involved in making it.  The upside of course is that people who otherwise couldn't afford anything will have a better chance of getting their problem fixed. This is the main point of what I am saying - there are 2 sides of the bitcoin.

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June 07, 2011, 12:44:49 AM
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As a future medical professional I see this as absurd. Look around the news and see the rampart issue of counterfeit drugs then think again about where you get your medication from. Not only that, but uses like this is what is contributing to the rapid development of resistant bacteria. Drug companies aren't putting as much effort into researching antibiotics like they used to, and if I recall correctly we're several years off from new antibiotics. I highly doubt your average layperson knows which gram negative and which gram positive variants amoxicillin exerts its bactericidal effect on or how to identify if that is what they are suffering from, what the common side effects are and how to identify a type II hypersensitivity reaction.

Any time I have ever gone to the doctor with an infection, I have never had to wait around for the doctor to do a Gram stain or culture or anything to determine exactly what I had, nor did the doctor make any effort to follow up and make sure I completed the course of treatment.  So what difference would it make had I gone and just self-medicated?  Having a prescription label did pretty much nothing to solve the problems you bring up.  Sometimes the advice of a doctor is invaluable, and I will be glad to go and get it.  Other times, I just need more cream for psoriasis or whatever, and it's exactly the same psoriasis I had last time I saw the doctor, and it's a waste of time and resources to go get another prescription that he's going to give on the spot anyway just when I tell him "yeah, it still works, I just need more".  I may as well just order it online.

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June 07, 2011, 12:49:51 AM
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Any time I have ever gone to the doctor with an infection, I have never had to wait around for the doctor to do a Gram stain or culture or anything to determine exactly what I had, nor did the doctor make any effort to follow up and make sure I completed the course of treatment....Other times, I just need more cream for psoriasis or whatever, and it's exactly the same psoriasis I had last time I saw the doctor, and it's a waste of time and resources to go get another prescription that he's going to give on the spot anyway just when I tell him "yeah, it still works, I just need more".  I may as well just order it online.

Well what they are supposed to do is make an empirical choice, take a sample BEFORE starting you on AB's, and let you know if you have to change later.

Could not agree more about repeat scripts. Where I live you can generally phone for another prescritption and pick it up from the secretary. You pay nothing for the script (but you will pay to fill it) and it saves clogging up the doctor.
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June 07, 2011, 12:52:19 AM
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Other times, I just need more cream for psoriasis or whatever, and it's exactly the same psoriasis I had last time I saw the doctor, and it's a waste of time and resources to go get another prescription that he's going to give on the spot anyway just when I tell him "yeah, it still works, I just need more".  I may as well just order it online.

Could not agree more. Where I live you can generally phone for another prescritption and pick it up from the secretary. You pay nothing for the script (but you will pay to fill it) and it saves clogging up the doctor.

Sure, that's fine. The problem is when strong antibiotics are given to people who don't need them.

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June 07, 2011, 11:29:50 AM
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June 07, 2011, 12:30:27 PM
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June 08, 2011, 11:59:38 AM
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Let me do this in dollars now since the bitcoin market is so volatile.  I do not take dollars though- only bitcoin!

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June 19, 2011, 09:17:50 PM
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June 20, 2011, 03:39:33 AM
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As a future medical professional I see this as absurd. Look around the news and see the rampart issue of counterfeit drugs then think again about where you get your medication from. Not only that, but uses like this is what is contributing to the rapid development of resistant bacteria. Drug companies aren't putting as much effort into researching antibiotics like they used to, and if I recall correctly we're several years off from new antibiotics. I highly doubt your average layperson knows which gram negative and which gram positive variants amoxicillin exerts its bactericidal effect on or how to identify if that is what they are suffering from, what the common side effects are and how to identify a type II hypersensitivity reaction.

Any time I have ever gone to the doctor with an infection, I have never had to wait around for the doctor to do a Gram stain or culture or anything to determine exactly what I had, nor did the doctor make any effort to follow up and make sure I completed the course of treatment.  So what difference would it make had I gone and just self-medicated?  Having a prescription label did pretty much nothing to solve the problems you bring up.  Sometimes the advice of a doctor is invaluable, and I will be glad to go and get it.  Other times, I just need more cream for psoriasis or whatever, and it's exactly the same psoriasis I had last time I saw the doctor, and it's a waste of time and resources to go get another prescription that he's going to give on the spot anyway just when I tell him "yeah, it still works, I just need more".  I may as well just order it online.

I like how people attack me on things I never said. No, the current system (United States) is not perfect what so ever. There is a huge amount of waste in the medical industry. Medical spending is rising faster than our GDP. Insurance companies reaping in tons of money along with pharmaceutical companies. I've seen cancer patients been denied coverage for antibiotics (although somewhat costly antibiotics) while medicaid hands out brand name medications when there are cheaper alternatives.
No I don't think the current MD centric system is ideal. The fact of the matter is they are expensive and there is a general shortage of them, especially general practitioners. The US has the highest (or one of the highest, i can't remember) percentages of specialists. Why? Partly because that's where the money is.

I believe a partial solution to this is for the other health care professionals to begin to assume some of the functions of the MDs and for the paraprofessionals (nurses and such) to take on more duties. This is already happening to some degree, so we'll see what happens.
But I don't believe lay persons self diagnosing themselves with such and such infection and picking up antibiotics is a great idea. If you think doctors overprescribe antibiotics imagine what the average lay person would do. Yes many doctors hand them out like candy (along with hydrocodone...) Hopefully this will begin to change. I've read some interesting articles comparing antibiotic usage in ear infections and how the UK tends to prescribe antibiotics much less than the US in pediatric populations but has a very similar outcome.

The fact of the matter is I don't have the answer, but neither does anyone here. Hopefully we'll get there one day.

But for anyone who is worried, we were pretty much told that the government won't go after an individual buying drugs online like this. While I don't think it's technically legal, they don't really care. Bigger fish to fry.
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June 20, 2011, 02:47:52 PM
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ciprofloxacin 500mg, 10pcs, $20 delivered
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azithromycin 250mg, 6pcs, $40 delivered
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xenical orlistat 120mg, 21 pcs, $100 delivered
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alprazolam (xanax) 1mg, 60 pcs, $200 delivered
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premarin .625, 28 pcs (one month), $70 delivered
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omeprazole (nexium/prilosec) 20mg, 20 pcs, $50 delivered
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lexofloxacin 500mg, 10pcs, $160 delivered
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June 20, 2011, 07:01:07 PM
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Uhh...you do realize that amoxicillin is insanely cheap in every country...right?  It's $4 for 30 capsules of this at Walmart, Target, and many grocery store pharmacies.

Some stores don't even charge the $4 and provide it for free with a prescription...they're super affordable generic antibiotics. 
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Testerx- can you buy it anonymously and without a prescription at Walmart, Target, or any grocery store or pharmacy?  If you live in some countries you can, and in some countries you can not.  I am offering these medications for people who are not poor enough to have government health care, and not fortunate enough to work for a company who offers health care for them and their families.  If you don't fall into those categories but are wealthy and buy your own health insurance, then you are fortunate indeed.

Currently by most estimates there are between 60 and 70 million Americans with no health insurance. 

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azithromycin 250mg, 6pcs, $40 delivered
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xenical orlistat 120mg, 21 pcs, $100 delivered
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alprazolam (xanax) 1mg, 60 pcs, $200 delivered
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premarin .625, 28 pcs (one month), $70 delivered
[Sorry no samples]

omeprazole (nexium/prilosec) 20mg, 20 pcs, $50 delivered
[3 pill sample $4]

lexofloxacin 500mg, 10pcs, $160 delivered
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lorazepam 1mg, 10 pcs, $100
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June 22, 2011, 06:37:57 AM
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America is gay, its the only country where our stupid, fat, lazy, ignorant, mass media driven population isn't even capable or allowed to buy antibiotics over the counter. So immensely sad.

I tell my fellow Americans, that we are the only country in the world where u cant go to the store and buy antibiotics if u need them, and half of them, don't even believe me!

I think this guy is smart and as long as his stuff isn't filled with rat poison then i think hes providing a good service.

And, if it is filled with rat poison then hes probably providing a good service too.

I'm just kidding
or am i?

God bless the USA


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Yes, mass media drives American thought.  When I told an American about buying many different drugs over the counter, the person replied that the streets must be filled with drug addicts.  But I would bet that the USA has ten times as many addicts relative to the population than do most developing nations.  Drugs drive a massive violent crime wave in America's large cities. 

You can not legislate behavior.

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alprazolam [xanax] 1mg, 60 pcs, $200 delivered


ciprofloxacin 500mg, 10pcs, $20 delivered


azithromycin 250mg, 6pcs, $40 delivered


xenical orlistat 120mg, 21 pcs, $100 delivered


premarin .625, 28 pcs [one month], $70 delivered


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Yes, mass media drives American thought.  When I told an American about buying many different drugs over the counter, the person replied that the streets must be filled with drug addicts.  But I would bet that the USA has ten times as many addicts relative to the population than do most developing nations.  Drugs drive a massive violent crime wave in America's large cities. 

You can not legislate behavior.
Drugs wouldn't drive violent crime waves if they were all legal.  Like the other guys said, the current position of the medical industry and pharmaceutical industry is a joke.  They overprice drugs that treat aliments of other drugs without curing the actual cause.  If they actually cured people, they wouldn't make money.  Along with that, cancer is completely preventable and already curable but we choose to keep chasing for the 'cure' (the pharmaceutical cure) which makes big pharma and cancer businesses billions of dollars.  Reality is, they have little to no interest in finding the a cure because that would vanish their trillion dollar industry.  It's quite sad that over half a million Americans are dying every year from cancer and people are making so much money off of them 'treating' them.

Just wanted to share that.  Also wanted to save this thread so I could find it in the future.

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