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9 more days before the regular season starts. It's heating up already in the preseason. LA Clippers. John Wall playing like he is meant to be on the team. Portland Trail Blazers with Jerami Grant making them strong on the inside while Damian Lillard can make it rain outside. More teams in the Western part will try to squeeze every win to make it to the playoffs. Even the play-in tournament will be a hot zone when the rankings end.
I am more excited about the LA Clippers, I like to see John Wall playing like a real superstar, being surrounded by PG13 and Kawhi Leonard should make inspire him more to play his best because they have the best chance of winning a championship. On the other hand, with what happen on the Warriors, I think, one of them might be traded to the other team, if it's Green, I have a feeling that the Warriors will struggle in the playoffs.
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Maybe for now yes he has a good contribution to the team but what about for next succeeding years? For sure his game play will decline more and leadership will not totally help their team for more longer times since for sure its just a waste of their asset to spend a huge contract for a possible bench warmer. Green is 32 years old and giving max contract is not totally worth for the management
Yeah, it's almost impossible for old player to stay in basketball since every year there's a young generation who's more aggressive and fast that would outplayed old player. In the next few years he will get replaced by Jonathan Kuminga. Green's game is not about scoring or being athletic. He is more of a facilitator to his teammates. His value comes from his defense, his intelligence, and the little things he does inside the court. He can still be valuable 3 to 4 years from now but absolutely not the type that gets a max contract. On the other hand, with what happen on the Warriors, I think, one of them might be traded to the other team, if it's Green, I have a feeling that the Warriors will struggle in the playoffs.
I think I watched somewhere that there will be no trades happening, but I am not sure. We will see as this story develops. Surely, if there is any changes in personnel, it will greatly affect the team but it is early in the season. If there is any changes, they can still adjust until the playoffs. There is plenty of time. I am more excited about the LA Clippers, I like to see John Wall playing like a real superstar, being surrounded by PG13 and Kawhi Leonard should make inspire him more to play his best because they have the best chance of winning a championship.
I just hope AD, Zion, Kawhi, and John Wall stay healthy until the playoffs. I would love to see how the west will be when all of these players are healthy. There is no sure winner, even GSW is not safe. It would be a riot in the playoffs if these players will stay healthy.
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October 10, 2022, 02:58:37 PM |
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On the other hand, with what happen on the Warriors, I think, one of them might be traded to the other team, if it's Green, I have a feeling that the Warriors will struggle in the playoffs.
That is hard to tell. Draymond Green is one of the elites of the Warriors and I don't think they would just give him away for it could ruin their plays that was made starting from him. Most of it were just him and Steph Curry, the simplest pick and roll or screen and roll. He said in his interview that he will fix it which I hope he does. If that clip from TMZ didn't leak out, we won't even know that is happening in camp or locker room. Some NBA player says it does happen, it's just that this one got out of hand.
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October 10, 2022, 03:19:22 PM |
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On the other hand, with what happen on the Warriors, I think, one of them might be traded to the other team, if it's Green, I have a feeling that the Warriors will struggle in the playoffs.
That is hard to tell. Draymond Green is one of the elites of the Warriors and I don't think they would just give him away for it could ruin their plays that was made starting from him. Most of it were just him and Steph Curry, the simplest pick and roll or screen and roll. He said in his interview that he will fix it which I hope he does. If that clip from TMZ didn't leak out, we won't even know that is happening in camp or locker room. Some NBA player says it does happen, it's just that this one got out of hand. Yeah, it is supposedly private and not for the viewers' eyes but it was leaked, and everyone can no longer denied what happened during that practice day. The punching incident was way far from what we heard during Jordan/Kerr commotion. No video or evidence of the fight while with Poole and Green it was a clear video footage that was really alarming. Such an attitude shouldn't be here anymore.
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October 10, 2022, 03:35:32 PM |
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The attack Green did is unacceptable, the fact that we are still talking about how it should have stayed within the team is showing that NBA is still not finding the right mental health situation. Now you are expecting Jordan Poole to figure out a way to accept Green as who he is, sure Green will "apologize" if he is asked, if I know him, he won't be even doing that unless he got some stern warning and a punishment that is more severe than what he would normally get, and then he would do so but Poole would know he doesn't mean it. And he has to accept him as his teammate and move on.
I believe violence has no place in NBA, and players should be punished like whole season worths, or at least a serious amount of money, like 10-20 million, to make sure that nobody would ever try to do something like this ever again.
Whatever Poole's decision, it will still reflect on the entire squad. We don't know what really the reason behind it and if we just judge it from the video, it can create two-way opinions. Green might not punch Poole if he didn't push him but from the angle that we saw from the video that keeps circulating, it was Poole who pushed green first before Green punch him. All we can do now is to wait for any update to know how Warriors will solve this gap between these two stars. Green was planning on attacking him, Poole also has pride so pushing him is expected from him based on the video we saw, however, punching Poole with a very accurate shot, was unacceptable, it's pure violence. Green is really a dirty player, even his teammates are not exempted. Now, I'm convinced that Draymond was probably the reason why Durant left the Warriors. I think it's no secret that Draymond is part of the reason why Durant left, yes maybe KD wanted more money or have his own team or he didn't feel respected by the fans because they know that it is still Steph's team no matter what KD contribute. But there are games that KD and Draymond t is not on the page anymore by hlving arguments during the game itself. And so we might see the Warriors team or at least this kind of mood during the whole season and this could really be have a bad effect on them. It's true with Durant but the steph, klay and draymond formula works. And apparently this isn't new. Draymond is known to get on the younger players. Teams need someone to keep the team in line but not like this. Be interesting to see the dynamic in the beginning of the season. Poole was coming on strong last year let's see if he takes a backseat. I don't know why the Warriors haven't found the time to find and train the future replacement of Draymond Green, they sure know that Green is already old and so he can't be that reliable anymore in the years to come. This might be his last season because Green have said in the past weeks that he is leaving the team if the Warriors wouldn't give him what he wants, well he had the right to demand but he should also understand that it's not a win-win situation for him and the franchise. I'm expecting a competition this upcoming season for both Poole and Green as it's a battle of max contract.
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October 10, 2022, 03:55:05 PM |
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^^ I really thought that this could be a big issue for the Warriors team.
But according to Moody, after the incidence, Jordan Poole continue with his own practice for 2 hours. So that is kind of mindset that the Warriors want to see from him and not going to the media and bad mouth Green. And Draymond already made a public apology so maybe the team itself is glad that something positive is already happening from the background and put their difference aside.
So that's quick and they're good again? After that heavy hook that Draymond has made to Poole, they just let it pass and Poole continued his own practice. There are fans that would like to see some disciplinary action for Draymond because he's the one who became too aggressive and Poole was likely the victim. But anyway, if things are already good for them then there's no need to worry about both of them since Draymond has apologized publicly and the management and Poole is okay with it. I bet the franchise is pulling some strings to keep the issue behind and let the time cool it down but the fans wouldn't let them as long Green didn't received his punishment. Warrior's CEO is thinking about giving Green a suspension but Gen. Manager, Bob Myers, is looking the opposite way and it's expected that Green would go out and give a public apology because it's either he was ordered to do so or he is that worried that he may not receive an extension. Either way, the Warrior's locker room wouldn't be the same anymore because of the beef.
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I guess he just said that he's not rushing at all because he wasn't drafted but we know that he is already hoping to be a part of the NBA, things happen for a reason and clearly, it is not yet his time. He has the height advantage but that won't do nothing if he can't guard the center as he's still so thin, he needs to use this time to buff a bit so that he won't be cracked when someone wants to posterize him or get past him.
Yes, the anticipation was there if he can get on board the NBA but yeah anything happens for a reason and I think he is not really ready, that height of his if not used properly will surely just become a hinder, and he needs to be subtle in making preparations and it is good to start with his defense and that would be absurd if he is the tall guy in the court but has to deal with getting posterized by guys the same his size, right I think he lacks the passion to make defense on the recent Oklahoma Thunders game, so that is a problem at all, Right, he already knows what to do in-terms of offensive play but what about during defense? People are hyping him especially from the Philippines because he will be the first full-blooded Filipino basketball player to play in the NBA, but his fans should also know that he is not that ready, and he will just get embarrassed because he is still raw mainly in his defense capabilities. He should work that out as his future role is a center, he can't avoid the times when there will be a player who will try to embarrass him inside.
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October 10, 2022, 05:20:00 PM |
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While Draymond spends time away from the team, I was surprised to see Jordan Poole back in action today against the Lakers. They lost by 3 but Poole put up 25 and had a nice highlight. Anthony Davis and Kendrick Nunn had big games though. Great to see Nunn back. He was the missing piece last year that caused them to be so bad.
Jordal Poole's improvement continues. I guess the Warriors did a really good job in finding their own gems by developing their players from scratch. Wiseman is very notable in the pre season playing impressively and putting up huge numbers. The chances for the Warriors for a repeat this year is huge. On the other hand, i think the Lakers will be better if they avoid injuries this year. In the wake of the infamous Green and Poole incident, it is encouraging to see Poole back in action against the Lakers. But to be honest it was only one punch. I knew right away that Green was going to suffer a lot because of this. It is clear that Poole's game is improving as time goes on. The match between the Lakers and the Warriors was a good one. The performance from Poole was really good. While Anthony Davis played a stellar game for the Lakers. We are watching some entertaining pre-season matches at the moment. This makes me wonder how fun the actual season is going to be this time. Injury prevention is one of the most critical things for the Lakers. They will likely be able to go far this season if they are able to avoid injuries. Duke
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October 10, 2022, 05:37:03 PM |
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I guess he just said that he's not rushing at all because he wasn't drafted but we know that he is already hoping to be a part of the NBA, things happen for a reason and clearly, it is not yet his time. He has the height advantage but that won't do nothing if he can't guard the center as he's still so thin, he needs to use this time to buff a bit so that he won't be cracked when someone wants to posterize him or get past him.
Yes, the anticipation was there if he can get on board the NBA but yeah anything happens for a reason and I think he is not really ready, that height of his if not used properly will surely just become a hinder, and he needs to be subtle in making preparations and it is good to start with his defense and that would be absurd if he is the tall guy in the court but has to deal with getting posterized by guys the same his size, right I think he lacks the passion to make defense on the recent Oklahoma Thunders game, so that is a problem at all, Right, he already knows what to do in-terms of offensive play but what about during defense? People are hyping him especially from the Philippines because he will be the first full-blooded Filipino basketball player to play in the NBA, but his fans should also know that he is not that ready, and he will just get embarrassed because he is still raw mainly in his defense capabilities. He should work that out as his future role is a center, he can't avoid the times when there will be a player who will try to embarrass him inside. Reality wise, there are many big players now who can play better than him. If he wanted to be drafted, he needed to add more. Yes, he already has the talent, but it is the NBA that he's targeting with a lot of rising superstars, making this dream to happen needed to have a lot of skills and high IQs in terms of playing the game, he is still young and with his determination, chances are still high. Just don't rush things and keep on learning to add up with his skills.
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October 10, 2022, 05:53:21 PM |
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...... And I have seen bad rumors about a trade too. Draymond and Wiseman to Atlanta Hawks for Capela and John Collins
That would be a good move for the Warriors management after the incident. I mean the matter may have been contained for now but I doubt this would be forgotten. It may escalate at a later time so I don't think it's ideal to keep them together. Draymond may be a valuable asset to the team but he's the most replaceable out of the three core. A good move to avoid a possible altercation in the future but when it comes to their strength, trading Green doesn't benefit the team because they won't be having a reliable center anymore. Joe Lacob and Bob Myers also spoke about the altercation, they are just considering to give a Green a suspension and not a trade. The team's best defense is on their offense anyway so anyone who could protect the paint and hustle for the team is a good alternative. OgNasty already said Green doesn't have that same offensive threat so I think Capela is a decent replacement for Green. I don't expect it to happen before the new season starts. It could be on the next trade window. I hope they are considering to get Capela next because Green's age is running and the Warriors will be vulnerable in the center without a reliable big man. Aside from that, I heard James Wiseman has returned and played recently in the summer league, they should nurture him as well because his height and skills can be put to use inside the paint.
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October 10, 2022, 06:31:35 PM |
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Why are you surprised? last year was a break thorough performance already, even with Klay Thompson back in the team, he still perform way above, he even beat Steph in FT percentage this year.
And yes, if he remains consistent this year, him and Wiggins will fight it out to be included in All Star. Wiggins got his first last year and then others question it. But he proved his critics wrong in the playoffs with huge game. We might see that to Poole this year.
Poole is a good player, and I don't deny that. But I believe his style of play is different from an AllStar. Poole is very consistent and when his teammates needed his help, he was there to help. I don't know if he is a player with a lot of impact on the team (not collectively but individually speaking). I analyzed some of his statistics and found the one of his main attributes is in fact his consistency, a technical feature rare to find in some players these days
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October 10, 2022, 06:33:48 PM |
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I don't know why the Warriors haven't found the time to find and train the future replacement of Draymond Green, they sure know that Green is already old and so he can't be that reliable anymore in the years to come. This might be his last season because Green have said in the past weeks that he is leaving the team if the Warriors wouldn't give him what he wants, well he had the right to demand but he should also understand that it's not a win-win situation for him and the franchise.
That is true. He did say that but most of us think that he does not deserve a max contract right now. I just do not know what GSW management thinks about it. I think they are grooming Wiseman as their young core who probably will replace Green. I'm expecting a competition this upcoming season for both Poole and Green as it's a battle of max contract.
If I am right, GSW has until Oct 17 to offer Jordan Poole the max rookie extension. If they don't, Poole will be a restricted free agent next season. If they don't offer Poole a max, then the max might probably go to Draymond. Unless GSW will pull something like what the Suns did to Ayton. Wait for team offers to Poole and match them. They will get Poole back at a cheaper price. But it may backfire because Poole might feel cheated like how Ayton is right now.
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^^ I really thought that this could be a big issue for the Warriors team.
But according to Moody, after the incidence, Jordan Poole continue with his own practice for 2 hours. So that is kind of mindset that the Warriors want to see from him and not going to the media and bad mouth Green. And Draymond already made a public apology so maybe the team itself is glad that something positive is already happening from the background and put their difference aside.
Yeah they are professionals making a ton of money so easy to go back to work. But these things come out in wierd ways, not setting a pick as hard as you would have, make an open pass to that player when you should have. Definitely must watch TV when they open the season against the lakers.
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October 10, 2022, 08:07:29 PM |
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^^ I really thought that this could be a big issue for the Warriors team.
But according to Moody, after the incidence, Jordan Poole continue with his own practice for 2 hours. So that is kind of mindset that the Warriors want to see from him and not going to the media and bad mouth Green. And Draymond already made a public apology so maybe the team itself is glad that something positive is already happening from the background and put their difference aside.
Yeah they are professionals making a ton of money so easy to go back to work. But these things come out in wierd ways, not setting a pick as hard as you would have, make an open pass to that player when you should have. Definitely must watch TV when they open the season against the lakers. Just funny though that Ja Morant, the one that they face in the playoff and words between Ja have been thrown out, and now Ja make a tweet about the incident and telling the public that Green did it to move to the Lakers, hehehe. Green didn't respond but have issues his apologized to Jordan and his family and the whole Warriors team and organization. But for sure Green didn't forget that comment and once he got to play them, there will be some animosity as they have history already. There is no word from the Warriors about Green being suspended in his first game so let's see.
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October 10, 2022, 08:19:37 PM |
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^^ I really thought that this could be a big issue for the Warriors team.
But according to Moody, after the incidence, Jordan Poole continue with his own practice for 2 hours. So that is kind of mindset that the Warriors want to see from him and not going to the media and bad mouth Green. And Draymond already made a public apology so maybe the team itself is glad that something positive is already happening from the background and put their difference aside.
So that's quick and they're good again? After that heavy hook that Draymond has made to Poole, they just let it pass and Poole continued his own practice. There are fans that would like to see some disciplinary action for Draymond because he's the one who became too aggressive and Poole was likely the victim. But anyway, if things are already good for them then there's no need to worry about both of them since Draymond has apologized publicly and the management and Poole is okay with it. I bet the franchise is pulling some strings to keep the issue behind and let the time cool it down but the fans wouldn't let them as long Green didn't received his punishment. Warrior's CEO is thinking about giving Green a suspension but Gen. Manager, Bob Myers, is looking the opposite way and it's expected that Green would go out and give a public apology because it's either he was ordered to do so or he is that worried that he may not receive an extension. Either way, the Warrior's locker room wouldn't be the same anymore because of the beef. Apology has been issues by Green and he take responsibility all the responsibility and admit his fault and his failure as a leader. And then it was hinted that Green had have issues outside of the court, whether it's personal or something that he has been carrying deep inside that suddenly break and snap and as a result that infamous punch that heard around the world. But so far we don't know who released that video and I would say the Warriors know that, because he/she has access to their trainer facility.
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October 10, 2022, 08:27:31 PM |
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In the wake of the infamous Green and Poole incident, it is encouraging to see Poole back in action against the Lakers. But to be honest it was only one punch. I knew right away that Green was going to suffer a lot because of this. It is clear that Poole's game is improving as time goes on.
The match between the Lakers and the Warriors was a good one. The performance from Poole was really good. While Anthony Davis played a stellar game for the Lakers. We are watching some entertaining pre-season matches at the moment. This makes me wonder how fun the actual season is going to be this time.
Injury prevention is one of the most critical things for the Lakers. They will likely be able to go far this season if they are able to avoid injuries.
Green hasn't been a great player for a long time now. I mean he was good by 2016 but since then he hasn't been as good as he used to be, those days when he had little points but a lot of rebounds and assists and played amazing on defence are long gone, he is bad at almost everything. One thing was him being a good vocal leader of the team, Curry was never the leader type, he just wanted to have fun, and Green took care of that for him, but with this move I think he showed that he can't lead anyone anymore neither. Which is why I doubt that he would be getting a good deal, he will probably get a bad deal and would be forced to either take it, or reject and realize no other team would offer something bigger in the hard way.
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^^ I really thought that this could be a big issue for the Warriors team.
But according to Moody, after the incidence, Jordan Poole continue with his own practice for 2 hours. So that is kind of mindset that the Warriors want to see from him and not going to the media and bad mouth Green. And Draymond already made a public apology so maybe the team itself is glad that something positive is already happening from the background and put their difference aside.
Yeah they are professionals making a ton of money so easy to go back to work. But these things come out in wierd ways, not setting a pick as hard as you would have, make an open pass to that player when you should have. Definitely must watch TV when they open the season against the lakers. Just funny though that Ja Morant, the one that they face in the playoff and words between Ja have been thrown out, and now Ja make a tweet about the incident and telling the public that Green did it to move to the Lakers, hehehe. Green didn't respond but have issues his apologized to Jordan and his family and the whole Warriors team and organization. But for sure Green didn't forget that comment and once he got to play them, there will be some animosity as they have history already. There is no word from the Warriors about Green being suspended in his first game so let's see. Speaking of Ja Morant and his tweets..the guy is a world class basketball player and I could see him easily being good enough to win more than one most valuable player award is his time in the NBA, but he’s a bit a punk. Not a huge fan of the way he acts in general. Dude sure seems to love himself. Maybe I’m just misreading him or something but he sure seems to love him some Ja, which I find unbecoming.
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October 10, 2022, 11:57:59 PM |
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Green hasn't been a great player for a long time now. I mean he was good by 2016 but since then he hasn't been as good as he used to be, those days when he had little points but a lot of rebounds and assists and played amazing on defence are long gone, he is bad at almost everything
Draymond Green is nothing without his desired teammates, the splash brothers, and the other championship core during their dominance. To cover his lack of good performance, he's now becoming the advisor of their young cores but sometimes, there's might be a time that he is below the belt. I know Green already realized what he did wrong. He apologized to Poole already. That's the start of forming much-good chemistry between him and Poole.
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October 11, 2022, 12:38:32 AM |
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I know Green already realized what he did wrong. He apologized to Poole already. That's the start of forming much-good chemistry between him and Poole.
Hopefully, their old way of interventing to each other is back. But I guess there's already a stain and it's not that quick to be gone. Well, as for Draymond's status. Stephen Smith said that Green wants to play for the Lakers. This news is out just a few hours ago. News: https://lakeshowlife.com/2022/10/10/draymond-green-wants-join-lakers-stephen-smith/
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October 11, 2022, 12:40:20 AM |
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..... The team's best defense is on their offense anyway so anyone who could protect the paint and hustle for the team is a good alternative. OgNasty already said Green doesn't have that same offensive threat so I think Capela is a decent replacement for Green.
I don't expect it to happen before the new season starts. It could be on the next trade window.
I cannot see the Warriors wanting to trade Green unless he gets pissed if they don't give him a max deal. While he is an asshole and a hothead, he also gets under players skin and throws off their game along with being a top tier defender. He's well worth keeping i'm just not sure he's worth max money. Maybe still worth keeping him for the upcoming season but the next one will be a completely different story. His style of roughing up and trash talking opposing players may have worked in the past but I think it's becoming less and less effective. He and his agent would likely push for a max contract. I don't think his ego would let him settle for less. .... Green hasn't been a great player for a long time now. I mean he was good by 2016 but since then he hasn't been as good as he used to be, those days when he had little points but a lot of rebounds and assists and played amazing on defence are long gone, he is bad at almost everything.
That's probably why he improved his trash talking game hehe.
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