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October 18, 2022, 08:48:30 AM |
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With how GSW handles the case of Poole and Wiggins, it indicates that there's a possibility that they are willing to pay more for taxes.
As long as it's on their choice of keeping both of them with the option to pay for more taxes and it's affordable to them, they'll pick that option. Only a matter of the outcome of this new season chase. If all goes well for the business, then expect that they will negotiate and give something that will make these two stars to continue playing and stay.
Isn't it that Poole has already signed a contract for them with a 4-year deal? Or it's possible that they may trade him with a higher contract from other teams if some teams want him? Is that how things work for these contracts and there's an option for the management to do that type of deal?
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October 18, 2022, 09:02:36 AM |
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Isn't it that Poole has already signed a contract for them with a 4-year deal? Or it's possible that they may trade him with a higher contract from other teams if some teams want him?
Is that how things work for these contracts and there's an option for the management to do that type of deal?
He can be traded but there's no way he will get a higher contract in a new team. The contract would still stands and he will only be paid on what is in the contract, if the new team will give him increase, that's not part of the contract, it's another one.
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October 18, 2022, 09:33:08 AM |
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Isn't it that Poole has already signed a contract for them with a 4-year deal? Or it's possible that they may trade him with a higher contract from other teams if some teams want him?
Is that how things work for these contracts and there's an option for the management to do that type of deal?
Jordan Poole has 1 more year in his old contract with GSW. What happened was a contract extension already waiting to be signed, or it was signed already. https://www.spotrac.com/nba/golden-state-warriors/jordan-poole-31587/It's a big one. So obviously they won't be extending Draymond Green's extension because that will be a huge luxury tax if they do so. About the trade, I think they put more value on Jordan Poole so they can trade him if they want for an equal value with other teams. That means they can get a better player/s in exchange for just one.
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Isn't it that Poole has already signed a contract for them with a 4-year deal? Or it's possible that they may trade him with a higher contract from other teams if some teams want him?
Is that how things work for these contracts and there's an option for the management to do that type of deal?
Jordan Poole has 1 more year in his old contract with GSW. What happened was a contract extension already waiting to be signed, or it was signed already. https://www.spotrac.com/nba/golden-state-warriors/jordan-poole-31587/It's a big one. So obviously they won't be extending Draymond Green's extension because that will be a huge luxury tax if they do so. About the trade, I think they put more value on Jordan Poole so they can trade him if they want for an equal value with other teams. That means they can get a better player/s in exchange for just one. Very well said, at the moment, Poole is more valuable than Draymond Green because he can produce points for the team, and the fact that he is still young, that means he will continue to develop his talent until he becomes a legit superstar. People were saying that Poole looks like the young Steph Curry, so if he will live to that expectation, what we are seeing on Poole is that he will become a hall of famer someday.
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October 18, 2022, 09:45:35 AM |
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Isn't it that Poole has already signed a contract for them with a 4-year deal? Or it's possible that they may trade him with a higher contract from other teams if some teams want him?
Is that how things work for these contracts and there's an option for the management to do that type of deal?
He can be traded but there's no way he will get a higher contract in a new team. The contract would still stands and he will only be paid on what is in the contract, if the new team will give him increase, that's not part of the contract, it's another one. Like a team that will buyout his contract? That's possible, right? Isn't it that Poole has already signed a contract for them with a 4-year deal? Or it's possible that they may trade him with a higher contract from other teams if some teams want him?
Is that how things work for these contracts and there's an option for the management to do that type of deal?
Jordan Poole has 1 more year in his old contract with GSW. What happened was a contract extension already waiting to be signed, or it was signed already. https://www.spotrac.com/nba/golden-state-warriors/jordan-poole-31587/It's a big one. So obviously they won't be extending Draymond Green's extension because that will be a huge luxury tax if they do so. About the trade, I think they put more value on Jordan Poole so they can trade him if they want for an equal value with other teams. That means they can get a better player/s in exchange for just one. All right, thanks. So, they're betting on Poole as he's got more potential to be at his peak and prime rather than Green since he's likely past his prime. I got it and well, this how the trading business goes for these teams.
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October 18, 2022, 09:51:40 AM |
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Very well said, at the moment, Poole is more valuable than Draymond Green because he can produce points for the team, and the fact that he is still young, that means he will continue to develop his talent until he becomes a legit superstar. People were saying that Poole looks like the young Steph Curry, so if he will live to that expectation, what we are seeing on Poole is that he will become a hall of famer someday.
Its undeniable that Poole has a bright future since looking at what he can produce to Warriors is really promising points and for sure he is superstar caliber but for discussing to be a hall of famer? Maybe he need to get MVP first or surpass many records before that to happen. But also Green is huge lose for Warriors if he officially let him go so most provably they might struggle on defensive and on screening which is important to let their shooters create their shoots. Maybe we can see a different Warriors if Green is out on the rooster.
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Kemba Walker is waived by the Detroit Pistons today? This is really shocking because the used to be playing like a star in his early career as an NBA player but injuries got him good. It seems like the league really wanted to spend on healthy players nowadays instead to gamble on unstable players that might gonna cost them millions of dollars in mistake if they are not careful. Do you guys think that despite his size, he can still be a role player for some teams in the league? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FQPy7ZRg%2F306565128-5705052106268852-8159973079269278636-n.jpg&t=665&c=imyw_zQ_peMGvA)
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October 18, 2022, 11:30:46 AM |
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Kemba Walker is waived by the Detroit Pistons today?
This is really shocking because the used to be playing like a star in his early career as an NBA player but injuries got him good. It seems like the league really wanted to spend on healthy players nowadays instead to gamble on unstable players that might gonna cost them millions of dollars in mistake if they are not careful. Do you guys think that despite his size, he can still be a role player for some teams in the league?
I don't know his situation at the moment, but he was a superstar for me. I couldn't understand Detroit's waived of Kemba Walker. I hope Kemba Walker goes to a good team and gets back to his old performance.
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I guess if we look at NBA's history in recent years, team owners would rather invest on young players. Just like in the case of Poole and Wiggins, they see the this 2 might be their future superstar and that it could bring them more championship, so it's a no brainer to offer them good contracts.
We can't read Green's mind but for sure, he either appreciate and very happy for the 2 or he just wish that the Warriors are going to offer him a good contract as well, so will see.
NBA has quite learned a lot in the past years when they saw those star players when getting old does not really play like how they were in their mid-20s and its a waste of money if they gonna extend them furthermore with hundreds of millions when they cannot really play the same or bring the team to the Finals. Some players are only good in the early years of their careers and only a few like LBJ can maintain their productivity on the court the rest are just backup players when they get old like Green and they only need fewer payments when they're not in their prime anymore. Those are good elite players, Jordan, Kobe and Lebron to name a few. However, in Draymond Green's career, I wouldn't call him elite, yes he is a good defensive player and a team leader. But as you age, and in his case, his skills are going down very fast and if I'm not mistaken, his numbers is the worst in his career if not one of the worst last season. So it's very important for the Warriors to really think about him whether to let him go or offer him but not a contract that he wants. I agree, Green is just different with the likes of Lebron, Jordan and Kobe whom we can call elites of their era. He is far from reality from those named players above, before, yes no doubt, he can help the team to get in the Finals and win the championship but his situation now is different because he is just a liability to the team and he is just using what he had done for the team to demand a max contract. Anyway, I doubt he can have it his way.
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October 18, 2022, 03:11:47 PM |
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Kemba Walker is waived by the Detroit Pistons today?
This is really shocking because the used to be playing like a star in his early career as an NBA player but injuries got him good. It seems like the league really wanted to spend on healthy players nowadays instead to gamble on unstable players that might gonna cost them millions of dollars in mistake if they are not careful. Do you guys think that despite his size, he can still be a role player for some teams in the league?
I don't know his situation at the moment, but he was a superstar for me. I couldn't understand Detroit's waived of Kemba Walker. I hope Kemba Walker goes to a good team and gets back to his old performance. My take is he was waived because of his injury and with the amount of his contract piston might not see him as valuable as before, so they are not willing to give him that much or Piston has other plans to sign other players/stars. We really can't tell the future ahead of those past superstars. I agree that one time in Kemba's career he was really the main Alpha but because of the injuries and age those years are just part of his memories. Hoping to see him back, the same way with how DRose got that chance to play even he is also an injury prone star.
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October 18, 2022, 03:51:08 PM |
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Do you guys think that despite his size, he can still be a role player for some teams in the league?
I think he's still some sort of a role player but if I were with Kemba he should take his health very seriously but I also think he's more than ready with it so that team will consider him once again. It's still a business and they don't need some kind of empathy over it, if they can't make money on that player, that's it, it will be waived or they remain a free agent. I wonder who's team will be interested in him by now, bring him back to Charlotte?
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Looking forward to seeing the NBA season kick things off tonight on TNT. With Ernie and the guys signing long extensions that certainly made them crazy rich, I’m sure the aura will be extremely positive. Really looking forward to seeing the Warriors and Lakers, but I suspect that Golden State will be leaving with the W. Philly and Boston will probably be less fun to watch but likely a more exciting game. I’m just glad to be watching NBA basketball again!
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October 18, 2022, 08:04:10 PM |
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Kemba Walker is still a great player, and will stay a great player, his playing style doesn't really go bad, even last year when he was given only 25 minutes in New York, dude scored 11+ points, which was his worse year and he was seen as someone who was bench are.
If any team takes him, and gives him the ball, and makes him play 30 minutes a game, just like how he has in Charlotte all these years, he will bounce back and have a 20 ppg season, only trouble he has that no team is willing to do that, this isn't his problem, it’s not because he is bad, teams just don't give him the chance, which is stupid considering how many teams really need a good ball handler as well. He could be AMAZING in sixers for example.
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October 18, 2022, 08:31:25 PM |
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Kemba Walker is still a great player, and will stay a great player, his playing style doesn't really go bad, even last year when he was given only 25 minutes in New York, dude scored 11+ points, which was his worse year and he was seen as someone who was bench are.
If any team takes him, and gives him the ball, and makes him play 30 minutes a game, just like how he has in Charlotte all these years, he will bounce back and have a 20 ppg season, only trouble he has that no team is willing to do that, this isn't his problem, it’s not because he is bad, teams just don't give him the chance, which is stupid considering how many teams really need a good ball handler as well. He could be AMAZING in sixers for example.
The problem with Kemba is that he is injury prone player. And that's why Charlotte decided to trade him and now he is bouncing from team to team. I do agree that he is a great player, those crazy moves and cross overs, but if he can't keep himself from getting injured, then I doubt that he can average 20 ppg. He will no longer be the star that he once is, in my opinion.
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October 18, 2022, 08:52:40 PM |
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I don't know if Green and Klay's contract will be extended, and it must've been hard for GM Bob Myers to make a decision knowing that both of them are a huge part of the past dynasty that gave them 3 titles. Let's just hope that they will be given at least 1–2-year contract maybe.
These two are the star players of the team, there's no way they won't be extended, probably they'll not get a max salary but the management will surely consider them still playing with the team. Actually, it's not only about the talent, it's about the chemistry of the team and it has been Klay, Curry, and Draymond Green who made this team a championship team. Or loyalty (if there is such a word from this sports athlete?), I mean willing to get pay check just to chase another champion because they have built the chemistry already and they have the blue print to do it. And so that is the only chance that I see Green still staying with the Warriors specially if he is not being offered the max contract next season.
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October 18, 2022, 10:04:01 PM |
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Kemba Walker is still a great player, and will stay a great player, his playing style doesn't really go bad, even last year when he was given only 25 minutes in New York, dude scored 11+ points, which was his worse year and he was seen as someone who was bench are.
If any team takes him, and gives him the ball, and makes him play 30 minutes a game, just like how he has in Charlotte all these years, he will bounce back and have a 20 ppg season, only trouble he has that no team is willing to do that, this isn't his problem, it’s not because he is bad, teams just don't give him the chance, which is stupid considering how many teams really need a good ball handler as well. He could be AMAZING in sixers for example.
The problem with Kemba is that he is injury prone player. And that's why Charlotte decided to trade him and now he is bouncing from team to team. I do agree that he is a great player, those crazy moves and cross overs, but if he can't keep himself from getting injured, then I doubt that he can average 20 ppg. He will no longer be the star that he once is, in my opinion. I don’t think he’s an injury prone player. He was healthy in New York and they were benching him to let the younger guys play. I think he just doesn’t play great team basketball. Since college he’s had to carry the entire load for his team but he’s just not good enough to carry an NBA team to the Finals. I do think he’d be a great addition to a team that needs a scoring presence off the bench. Los Angeles last year for example. I’d like to see the Pelicans pick him up for their second squad. I think when McCollum, Zion, and BI are taking a breather he would be able to keep the score moving.
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October 18, 2022, 10:19:42 PM |
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Looking forward to seeing the NBA season kick things off tonight on TNT. With Ernie and the guys signing long extensions that certainly made them crazy rich,
It's the chemistry of these 4 that really separate them from the rest of the basketball analyst (whether player or not). So it's good to see him back for another run. I’m sure the aura will be extremely positive. Really looking forward to seeing the Warriors and Lakers, but I suspect that Golden State will be leaving with the W. Philly and Boston will probably be less fun to watch but likely a more exciting game. I’m just glad to be watching NBA basketball again!
Yes, just good to see NBA basketball again, we might have to see for the regular season, but at least we have a taste or preview of what the current team is going to offer and who has the potential to win the trophy for his season.
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October 18, 2022, 10:24:08 PM |
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NBA will start with two games tonight and I think these two games will be enjoyable. I'm going to watch the Golden State vs Los Angeles Lakers game. I will start nba betting soon. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Let's see how this season goes. Boston Celtics vs Philadelphia 76ers Golden State Warriors vs Los Angeles Lakers (GSW will be won ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) )
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October 18, 2022, 10:35:16 PM |
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.... I think he just doesn’t play great team basketball. Since college he’s had to carry the entire load for his team but he’s just not good enough to carry an NBA team to the Finals.
This is my opinion of him as well. He can have all the moves for the highlights but cannot produce when it really matters the most. He had a good team in Celtics but also ended up like Kyrie who is also not a great team player IMO. I do think he’d be a great addition to a team that needs a scoring presence off the bench. Los Angeles last year for example. I’d like to see the Pelicans pick him up for their second squad. I think when McCollum, Zion, and BI are taking a breather he would be able to keep the score moving. Leading the second unit for the Pelicans sounds about right. Any team who could get him at a low amount could still benefit. His situation reminds me of John Wall.
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Very well said, at the moment, Poole is more valuable than Draymond Green because he can produce points for the team, and the fact that he is still young, that means he will continue to develop his talent until he becomes a legit superstar. People were saying that Poole looks like the young Steph Curry, so if he will live to that expectation, what we are seeing on Poole is that he will become a hall of famer someday.
Its undeniable that Poole has a bright future since looking at what he can produce to Warriors is really promising points and for sure he is superstar caliber but for discussing to be a hall of famer? Maybe he need to get MVP first or surpass many records before that to happen. But also Green is huge lose for Warriors if he officially let him go so most provably they might struggle on defensive and on screening which is important to let their shooters create their shoots. Maybe we can see a different Warriors if Green is out on the rooster. You are right that GSW may lack defense once Draymond Green is not on their roster anymore, but they can always teach their young stars to take over on the defense. If they can teach Durant to play a little defense, I am sure they can teach Kuminga or Wiseman to play defense. Or if that still lacks then they can still sign in some defensive specialist to play for them. Kemba Walker is waived by the Detroit Pistons today?
This is really shocking because the used to be playing like a star in his early career as an NBA player but injuries got him good. It seems like the league really wanted to spend on healthy players nowadays instead to gamble on unstable players that might gonna cost them millions of dollars in mistake if they are not careful. Do you guys think that despite his size, he can still be a role player for some teams in the league?
It is understandable. Availability is the best ability as they always say. It is hard to bet on someone who gets easily injured and will not be able to play. Even if you have the best skills if you cannot play games, then it is a waste of money and roster slots. Just take AD or Zion, they can be the best but most of the time they are sitting on the bench because of injury. Kemba Walker can still be a role player in some teams, I think. But he should not be expecting large contract. Maybe a year in veterans' contract is good. It is still better than not having anything at all.
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