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His ring chance is possible with the Warriors. I'm just hoping that will go to acquire another big role player to help Looney and Green fighting inside, with CP3 now he can move the ball, but he might compromise the defense.
But I think he will be a good fit still as Warrior's principle "offense is the main defense". Knowing CP3, he can provide good numbers, maybe he's lack in height but with special skills he can add the pressure to collapse the defense and let splash bro to get the free shots.
I think it's too early to say that Paul will have a chance to win the title with the Warriors since the Warriors still don't look like a team that can make the finals next season. Anyway, it will be interesting to see how Coach Kerr will use Paul on the court. My guess is that Paul will probably be a point guard in the starting lineup, while Curry will play at the shooting guard position and Thompson at the small forward position.
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His ring chance is possible with the Warriors. I'm just hoping that will go to acquire another big role player to help Looney and Green fighting inside, with CP3 now he can move the ball, but he might compromise the defense.
But I think he will be a good fit still as Warrior's principle "offense is the main defense". Knowing CP3, he can provide good numbers, maybe he's lack in height but with special skills he can add the pressure to collapse the defense and let splash bro to get the free shots.
I think it's too early to say that Paul will have a chance to win the title with the Warriors since the Warriors still don't look like a team that can make the finals next season. Anyway, it will be interesting to see how Coach Kerr will use Paul on the court. My guess is that Paul will probably be a point guard in the starting lineup, while Curry will play at the shooting guard position and Thompson at the small forward position. Warriors team with Paul will look really good next season. Without Paul they were good but this will give them the boost they need to try and get that title. I just wonder how long Paul can play at a top level because he aint young again. He will be good for them if they reach the playoffs but still early to say
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I see the news reporting that Monty Williams is selling his Scottsdale home now that he's been fired as the Phoenix Suns head coach. I think he's the single reason that DeAndre Ayton has underperformed in the NBA. With him gone now, that opens the door up to keep Ayton and develop him into the player he should become, but who knows what sort of bad blood there is between him and the organization or if the firing of Monty Williams was enough to get Ayton back on board. I still think the Suns dump Ayton for a more experienced player that can help them win now, but if I were in charge I certainly wouldn't do that.
I thought ayton might be more of a force but I don't know. He might just carve out a nice 15 year career who is always above average but just not "the guy" on the team. Granted on that squad there is no room to be that guy. He would be a nice addition to any team guess we'll see if it was coaching or not.
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Well, unlike the other forums, basketball groups and communities, I don't think that there will be a thrown hate to you when you're just spitting your opinion. Unlike on the other areas and social networks, the toxicity there is at peak.
Well, you are right man, but still, I am just saying sorry if there could be people that don't like what I am saying, but the Chris Paul trade would be a steal if CP3 is not at 38 years old and always prone to injuries, I would love to see that trade but this is a real problem the Warriors need size and not a 6th man that might cost them a good player that they can rely upon every game, It's too early to compare him with Zion. We don't even know if he can truly live up to his status as a star. Zion has already proven himself to be a dominant player, whereas we haven't seen that from Wemby in the NBA yet. So let's reserve that comment for the future. We need to witness his greatness first.
His body structure doesn't fit the bill to be Zion Williamson, and yeah it is still too early to be comparing the number 1 pick to any all-star or any player in the NBA right now because he is not I assure you that, I think Kenneth Lofton Jr. was more like Zion that one that bullied Victor Wembanyama, the 200-pound player that has bullied Wembanyama,
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June 23, 2023, 09:13:41 PM |
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Chris Paul going to the Warriors as a backup for Steph Curry? I didn’t expect that. I guess CP3 thought that was his best chance at a ring. This to me means that Jordan Poole is done in Golden State. Crazy because I thought he would be next up, especially with Draymond rumored to be leaving the team this offseason. First surprise of the offseason…
Edit: Looks like Poole was in the trade. Checks out…
I think it was not rumored anymore because Draymond Green is now in the free agency after he opted out that $27M deal for the 23-24 season and he said that he's still looking forward to wear the same uniform in the next couple of year or until he retires if he gets that contract that he demanded with $100M in. But I don't seriously think that the Warriors will give Green that kind of deal because they have freed Poole for two reasons, first is he is not that consistent anymore and second, they need to free up some cap space. Green might still be a bit relevant for the Warriors but his style has been long exposed, he became more and more predictable when all those extra passes and lacks the ability to score on his own. The kind of play won't really work for the teams like the Nuggets. The days of small ball might be over, because we already have 7 footers who can shot, pass, and rebound all effectively at the same time. Jokic was outstanding and playing like no other. Now, Wemby and Holmgren are probably going to be the most dominant centers in the NBA in the next coming years, and again small ball wont gonna work when a team have an athletic big man. The Lakers proved it with AD against the Warriors.
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June 23, 2023, 09:35:46 PM |
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Not really surprised that Smart was the first one to be traded since he's the most expendable of the trio but never imagined KP to be there. He'll have less playing time for sure unless he'll be their main center which I doubt. I think Celtics is taking too much risk by changing a lot of the team dynamics.
Of course, KP will be the main center. He is still a big star and a huge problem for its rival teams. Personally, I am liking the big shake-up the Celtics are doing. Over the years they really have the real potential of becoming champions but they only made it into the finals once. KP might change the usual Celtics plays but the center can provide a big boost of offense, especially during the times when Tatum and Brown turn cold. And it is time for a change after its failed 2022-23 season. The Celtics are still looking very strong provided they can stay healthy next season. Horford is an important piece but he is aging and the team will limit his minutes but he will be utilized during the playoffs. Yes, KP will get the same role and it is very reason why the Celtics get him and sacrificed Marcus Smart. We know neither of the present roster right now is much more capable to protect the rim other than KP, Williams III is not that dominant and especially not Al Horford either. So, with these new changes, the Celtics are looking forward to make some difference again by changing the line-up they had. Very interesting to know how the Boston team fares next season. I believe that they are a stronger team now but that doesn't mean that the other teams in the NBA are not getting stronger as well. KP though has a history of getting long layoffs due to injuries, unlike Smart. The Phoenix Suns upgraded its roster with a deadly 4 All-Star combo. A big surprising move by GSW after letting go of Poole and picking another PG in CP3. So it seems like the team will re-sign Green now. I would've preferred Poole rather than Green who's already showing big signs of aging yet continued to demand bigger contracts.
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June 23, 2023, 09:41:33 PM |
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Well, unlike the other forums, basketball groups and communities, I don't think that there will be a thrown hate to you when you're just spitting your opinion. Unlike on the other areas and social networks, the toxicity there is at peak.
Well, you are right man, but still, I am just saying sorry if there could be people that don't like what I am saying, but the Chris Paul trade would be a steal if CP3 is not at 38 years old and always prone to injuries, I would love to see that trade but this is a real problem the Warriors need size and not a 6th man that might cost them a good player that they can rely upon every game, No doubt that Poole was a good player but this is the reality and the time is keeping up that everyone just have to accept that the deal was all set and done. The Phoenix Suns upgraded its roster with a deadly 4 All-Star combo.
With the Suns performance last season, this is too much for everyone to expect better performance for this upcoming season. What are the other rumors and trades that have been mind blowing so far except from the known ones that we've already got on this thread?
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Green might still be a bit relevant for the Warriors but his style has been long exposed, he became more and more predictable when all those extra passes and lacks the ability to score on his own. Not his style but technically speaking, Draymond Green's overall performance is only compatible and blended well with the Splash Brothers. Refer to those games where one of the Splash Brothers is out, Green is mostly at worst. Just imagine if both Steph and Klay are out, Green is consistent in being inconsistent. I can't blame him though since he's with the Splash Brothers from the very start and they build their legacy for years "from scratch" - just being a usual role player. It now depends on how Golden State Warriors is currently looking at his "value" regardless of salary cap space-related concerns: - as one of the key players why the Warriors got 4 titles (worth around $100M)- performance-based in general in the previous season (less than his desired contract)
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June 23, 2023, 11:58:14 PM |
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Green might still be a bit relevant for the Warriors but his style has been long exposed, he became more and more predictable when all those extra passes and lacks the ability to score on his own. Not his style but technically speaking, Draymond Green's overall performance is only compatible and blended well with the Splash Brothers. Refer to those games where one of the Splash Brothers is out, Green is mostly at worst. Just imagine if both Steph and Klay are out, Green is consistent in being inconsistent. I can't blame him though since he's with the Splash Brothers from the very start and they build their legacy for years "from scratch" - just being a usual role player. Correct. This is why he should not be too carried away by declining player options. He should still remember where he came from. It's from the bench. But he ain't down to earth, he is so much proud of himself now and I don't blame him because he got 4 rings in 8 years. Still, he should know his place if he is really a wise player. He will never know what he will be if Klay and Steph are gone out of the picture. The worst possible outcome is he comes back to being a bench and then being traded from different teams like what happened with other players. I guess loyalty is really hard these days. It now depends on how Golden State Warriors is currently looking at his "value" regardless of salary cap space-related concerns:
- as one of the key players why the Warriors got 4 titles (worth around $100M) - performance-based in general in the previous season (less than his desired contract)
I think all he wants is security so giving him a longer contract should suffice to get him back to the team. An increase may not be his main goal on why he declined his option. News came out that he thinks he is worth $100m so give him 5 years of $20m. Possibly, he wants to be there when Steph Curry retires and just get the money that he wants even though his co-main star is already resting.
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Not really surprised that Smart was the first one to be traded since he's the most expendable of the trio but never imagined KP to be there. He'll have less playing time for sure unless he'll be their main center which I doubt. I think Celtics is taking too much risk by changing a lot of the team dynamics.
Of course, KP will be the main center. He is still a big star and a huge problem for its rival teams. Personally, I am liking the big shake-up the Celtics are doing. Over the years they really have the real potential of becoming champions but they only made it into the finals once. KP might change the usual Celtics plays but the center can provide a big boost of offense, especially during the times when Tatum and Brown turn cold. And it is time for a change after its failed 2022-23 season. The Celtics are still looking very strong provided they can stay healthy next season. Horford is an important piece but he is aging and the team will limit his minutes but he will be utilized during the playoffs. Yes, KP will get the same role and it is very reason why the Celtics get him and sacrificed Marcus Smart. We know neither of the present roster right now is much more capable to protect the rim other than KP, Williams III is not that dominant and especially not Al Horford either. So, with these new changes, the Celtics are looking forward to make some difference again by changing the line-up they had. Very interesting to know how the Boston team fares next season. I believe that they are a stronger team now but that doesn't mean that the other teams in the NBA are not getting stronger as well. KP though has a history of getting long layoffs due to injuries, unlike Smart. The Phoenix Suns upgraded its roster with a deadly 4 All-Star combo. A big surprising move by GSW after letting go of Poole and picking another PG in CP3. So it seems like the team will re-sign Green now. I would've preferred Poole rather than Green who's already showing big signs of aging yet continued to demand bigger contracts. Celtics vs Nuggets final next year.
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June 24, 2023, 01:28:57 AM |
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Not really surprised that Smart was the first one to be traded since he's the most expendable of the trio but never imagined KP to be there. He'll have less playing time for sure unless he'll be their main center which I doubt. I think Celtics is taking too much risk by changing a lot of the team dynamics.
Of course, KP will be the main center. He is still a big star and a huge problem for its rival teams. Personally, I am liking the big shake-up the Celtics are doing. Over the years they really have the real potential of becoming champions but they only made it into the finals once. KP might change the usual Celtics plays but the center can provide a big boost of offense, especially during the times when Tatum and Brown turn cold. And it is time for a change after its failed 2022-23 season. The Celtics are still looking very strong provided they can stay healthy next season. Horford is an important piece but he is aging and the team will limit his minutes but he will be utilized during the playoffs. Yes, KP will get the same role and it is very reason why the Celtics get him and sacrificed Marcus Smart. We know neither of the present roster right now is much more capable to protect the rim other than KP, Williams III is not that dominant and especially not Al Horford either. So, with these new changes, the Celtics are looking forward to make some difference again by changing the line-up they had. Very interesting to know how the Boston team fares next season. I believe that they are a stronger team now but that doesn't mean that the other teams in the NBA are not getting stronger as well. KP though has a history of getting long layoffs due to injuries, unlike Smart. I don't know, maybe I'm just one of those who didn't like the move of Celtics here. As you have said, KP is prone to injury as well and also very incosistent, so it's hard to see how he will fit the combo of Tatum and Brown. Can he really play the center position for Boston? The Phoenix Suns upgraded its roster with a deadly 4 All-Star combo. A big surprising move by GSW after letting go of Poole and picking another PG in CP3. So it seems like the team will re-sign Green now. I would've preferred Poole rather than Green who's already showing big signs of aging yet continued to demand bigger contracts.
I guess the Warriors management really did a lot of thinking, it's Green vs Poole. And so they decided to give the young fellow a boot and retain Green as he is one of the core players for the Warriors. If only Jordan Poole perform better in the playoffs, it might be a very difficult job for the management to decided which one to go. Unfortunately, his best performance with the Warriors is when they have that championship run. At least he had a ring already.
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June 24, 2023, 02:17:56 AM |
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Well, unlike the other forums, basketball groups and communities, I don't think that there will be a thrown hate to you when you're just spitting your opinion. Unlike on the other areas and social networks, the toxicity there is at peak.
Well, you are right man, but still, I am just saying sorry if there could be people that don't like what I am saying, but the Chris Paul trade would be a steal if CP3 is not at 38 years old and always prone to injuries, I would love to see that trade but this is a real problem the Warriors need size and not a 6th man that might cost them a good player that they can rely upon every game, No doubt that Poole was a good player but this is the reality and the time is keeping up that everyone just have to accept that the deal was all set and done. The Phoenix Suns upgraded its roster with a deadly 4 All-Star combo.
With the Suns performance last season, this is too much for everyone to expect better performance for this upcoming season. What are the other rumors and trades that have been mind blowing so far except from the known ones that we've already got on this thread? I think for Jordan Poole, he has to move on with playing with the Wizards now. And who knows, he could be their star after Beal and Kuzma as they are in a rebuilding phase. Fans though of the Warriors might not get this very easy because they love Poole. But with his performance from last season, he has to let go. And I do agree that I see CP3 coming off the bench now, this could protect himself from injuries. Steph will still be their starting PG and their roster is still intact even if they let go of Poole. Problem with Poole though is that there are no "baddies" going to watch Wizards game, ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I guess the Warriors management really did a lot of thinking, it's Green vs Poole. And so they decided to give the young fellow a boot and retain Green as he is one of the core players for the Warriors.
Isn't it that despite this trade with Poole was already done, Green has chosen to get out of its contract and will be the next to be out of the Warriors? If only Jordan Poole perform better in the playoffs, it might be a very difficult job for the management to decided which one to go. Unfortunately, his best performance with the Warriors is when they have that championship run. At least he had a ring already.
This could be it and a factor why this trade has made possible. But as CP3 doesn't guarantee them a ring but who knows if they'll be dominant this season and CP3 could get his ring with them. I can remember what KD did to take his ring with the GSW.
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Well, unlike the other forums, basketball groups and communities, I don't think that there will be a thrown hate to you when you're just spitting your opinion. Unlike on the other areas and social networks, the toxicity there is at peak.
Well, you are right man, but still, I am just saying sorry if there could be people that don't like what I am saying, but the Chris Paul trade would be a steal if CP3 is not at 38 years old and always prone to injuries, I would love to see that trade but this is a real problem the Warriors need size and not a 6th man that might cost them a good player that they can rely upon every game, No doubt that Poole was a good player but this is the reality and the time is keeping up that everyone just have to accept that the deal was all set and done. The Phoenix Suns upgraded its roster with a deadly 4 All-Star combo.
With the Suns performance last season, this is too much for everyone to expect better performance for this upcoming season. What are the other rumors and trades that have been mind blowing so far except from the known ones that we've already got on this thread? I think for Jordan Poole, he has to move on with playing with the Wizards now. And who knows, he could be their star after Beal and Kuzma as they are in a rebuilding phase. Fans though of the Warriors might not get this very easy because they love Poole. But with his performance from last season, he has to let go. And I do agree that I see CP3 coming off the bench now, this could protect himself from injuries. Steph will still be their starting PG and their roster is still intact even if they let go of Poole. Problem with Poole though is that there are no "baddies" going to watch Wizards game, ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I see your point and if he will desire to be as competitive as he can be, it's a great chance for him to move away from the shadow of Steph, he can do whatever he wants without comparison. Who knows, if by chance he will manage to bring this team to a competitive type of squad, they are in a rebuilding process and the chance to lead the team is way high. knowing that he's capable of bringing good numbers, he can be the offensive arsenal, something that's already built-in to his kind of play.
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June 24, 2023, 07:06:30 AM |
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Some big names have now been moved from the trade block. The Suns said it is "very unlikely" they will trade Deandre Ayton, which is a good idea in my opinion. They have plenty of outside shooting and need a strong big man under the basket. I don't know who they would play at center if they would have traded him. Portland also said they don't want to trade Lillard. Somehow every summer it's the same game with them. Many though Lillard would request a trade, especially if they draft Scoot Henderson. So now they drafted him, and nothing happened. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Classic. 1 more thing, I don't understand why every team passed on Drew Timme. He played 4 years in Gonzaga, 21 points and 7,5 rebounds in his final season. Also first team all american in his senior year. Yet nobody drafted him? Maybe they don't see the upside but I think he can be a valuable asset for any team. I guess that's why the Bucks now gave him a contract ( exhibit 10 deal , 1 year for minimum salary ) . I certainly hope he can prove himself and maybe build a NBA career from scratch.
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June 24, 2023, 08:03:02 AM |
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Didn't expect the move of GSW trading Poole to get CP3 and so is Poole I guess. I thought he is one of the future of GSW along with Kuminga. Maybe, it would be a different story if only he perform well last season. I don't think Poole loves to be traded. Based on my observation he wanted to stay in GSW like Curry, and Thompson. As for CP3, joining GSW is his best chance to get a ring before his retirement in a few more years.
Yes, if not for the drama prior to the start of the season and then in the playoffs, maybe he will still be a Warrior right now. But I guess the management really weight everything specially in his performance in the second round. He was non-existent and instead of helping, he has somewhat become a issue now. So the Warriors are still going to be good though, they still have their leader in Green and Steph Curry, and then adding another experience player, might be good for them. I'm seeing maybe Kuminga and Wiggins getting the benefit of the trade as for sure CP3 passing ability like getting a alley-oop pass for this two will be great for the team. He hasn't been acting professionally, despite the drama. Perhaps he should continue playing as he used to. Maybe he was intentionally trying to sabotage the Warriors with his poor performance, and there's a possibility he was even betting against his own team, knowing he would harm their chances. Such behavior is unacceptable for a highly paid player. His underperformance led to the management's decision to let him go, which was a good move. I don't know about sabotaging the Warriors last season, but there's already a sign that everything is not going well with the Warriors that time. There are games that Curry was disappointed with Poole, remember the mouth piece throwing incident? Although they won that game with the heroics from Poole, but there was the sign already. And now that he is gone, no more drama in the dugout, the core of Curry/Thompson/Green is back once again, and then add Chris Paul, they are still a very dangerous team next season.
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June 24, 2023, 08:09:04 AM |
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I guess the Warriors management really did a lot of thinking, it's Green vs Poole. And so they decided to give the young fellow a boot and retain Green as he is one of the core players for the Warriors.
Isn't it that despite this trade with Poole was already done, Green has chosen to get out of its contract and will be the next to be out of the Warriors? If only Jordan Poole perform better in the playoffs, it might be a very difficult job for the management to decided which one to go. Unfortunately, his best performance with the Warriors is when they have that championship run. At least he had a ring already.
This could be it and a factor why this trade has made possible. But as CP3 doesn't guarantee them a ring but who knows if they'll be dominant this season and CP3 could get his ring with them. I can remember what KD did to take his ring with the GSW. We still don't have any news of Green wanting to get out of the Warriors though. Definitely CP3 is not a guarantee but I guess Warriors think that adding him might push them for another run at the title, specially if Green opted to get back since Poole is no longer with the team. And it's also interesting that there are reports that Jordan Poole unfollow Draymond Green in Twitter, Lol. So the beef must be real between the two since the beginning of this season specially some videos of them having confrontation, not just the punching incident.
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Viscore
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June 24, 2023, 09:10:40 AM |
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We still don't have any news of Green wanting to get out of the Warriors though. Definitely CP3 is not a guarantee but I guess Warriors think that adding him might push them for another run at the title, specially if Green opted to get back since Poole is no longer with the team.
And it's also interesting that there are reports that Jordan Poole unfollow Draymond Green in Twitter, Lol. So the beef must be real between the two since the beginning of this season specially some videos of them having confrontation, not just the punching incident.
Jordan Poole has already left the Warriors through trade, so let's not expect that Draymond Green would follow suit. I believe they are currently in negotiations, and Draymond Green will likely enjoy a bigger contract after those negotiations. Poole was traded, but Green will probably stay if they still want to be a championship team.
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June 24, 2023, 09:16:37 AM |
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~snip~
I think for Jordan Poole, he has to move on with playing with the Wizards now. And who knows, he could be their star after Beal and Kuzma as they are in a rebuilding phase. Fans though of the Warriors might not get this very easy because they love Poole. But with his performance from last season, he has to let go. And I do agree that I see CP3 coming off the bench now, this could protect himself from injuries. Steph will still be their starting PG and their roster is still intact even if they let go of Poole. Problem with Poole though is that there are no "baddies" going to watch Wizards game, ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It takes time to process these trades if he's got it by a surprise. Fans do really love Poole after they've won the 2022 NBA championship. He played well there and that's why this was a surprise when one of their best players have been traded. But with this 2023 playoffs, we do saw that he performed not very well. I guess with these trades after winning championship sometime ago and became of its contributors, it's gonna be a normal thing that some may be traded just like Kuzma.
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June 24, 2023, 09:23:34 AM |
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~snip~
I think for Jordan Poole, he has to move on with playing with the Wizards now. And who knows, he could be their star after Beal and Kuzma as they are in a rebuilding phase. Fans though of the Warriors might not get this very easy because they love Poole. But with his performance from last season, he has to let go. And I do agree that I see CP3 coming off the bench now, this could protect himself from injuries. Steph will still be their starting PG and their roster is still intact even if they let go of Poole. Problem with Poole though is that there are no "baddies" going to watch Wizards game, ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It takes time to process these trades if he's got it by a surprise. Fans do really love Poole after they've won the 2022 NBA championship. He played well there and that's why this was a surprise when one of their best players have been traded. But with this 2023 playoffs, we do saw that he performed not very well. I guess with these trades after winning championship sometime ago and became of its contributors, it's gonna be a normal thing that some may be traded just like Kuzma. We are no longer surprised that he got traded due to his lack of good performance in the playoffs. He was one of the biggest reasons why the Warriors failed, as he wasn't shooting like he was during their championship run in 2022. Now that he is gone, the team can start pursuing their serious goal of winning a championship again. I know that with CP3 being healthy, this team will be tougher to beat. I hope to see Poole become a superstar in his new team, where there aren't a lot of superstars.
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