2024 NBA Season

[Fredomago]

Kawhi Leonard getting injured (or more like pg13 with him) then surely he would have been better player, but as of right now we know that ever since his Spurs last year, he has been injured way too frequently and been doing terrible. I think it's clear that he is too injury prone and that is why no team wants to take that risk, Clippers pays him so much just to recover most of the time.

I think Kawhi Leonard isn't a superstar like many think he is, sure when he played he won, but that was just two good seasons from him, aside from that he never played that great and I think it's clear that even with all that much talent, when you are missing most of the season, you are not a threat to anyone and teams write off Clippers before the season starts, even if Kawhi starts the season healthy, they bet that he will get injured again anyway.

He was once a superstar but after all, that faded away.

He's got a nice stint with Spurs and Raptors but being with the Clippers seems like the team has caught a falling knife.

So his contract with the Clippers will be up to 2026-2027, that's a nice paycheck without having much to play at all. 

That's right, Clippers shoulder him and gave him huge contracts but until know he's not bringing anything for the franchise as he keeps resting because of his injury.

They can't force him as there's doctors recommendations and if he needs to rest then he should be resting, like you mentioned he's level of being a star is fading and it's the name that gives clippers some revenue those who still buying his collectibles but NBA wise as a franchise player there's no conversions after he's being acquired.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

That's right, Clippers shoulder him and gave him huge contracts but until know he's not bringing anything for the franchise as he keeps resting because of his injury.

They can't force him as there's doctors recommendations and if he needs to rest then he should be resting, like you mentioned he's level of being a star is fading and it's the name that gives clippers some revenue those who still buying his collectibles but NBA wise as a franchise player there's no conversions after he's being acquired.

The Clippers have no identity anymore, that's also a problem. If you build around a boring personality like Kawhi and then he doesn't even play it's hard to form anything.
In the past the Clips had some sort of identity, even when they were the "never win Clippers". After that is was "lob city", which was the definitely the high point of the franchise with player like CP3, Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. But now, who actually cares about the Clippers anymore, nobody. They got a shiny new arena, live in a shiny city but there is nothing interesting about them now! 

[I_Anime]

Kawhi Leonard getting injured (or more like pg13 with him) then surely he would have been better player, but as of right now we know that ever since his Spurs last year, he has been injured way too frequently and been doing terrible. I think it's clear that he is too injury prone and that is why no team wants to take that risk, Clippers pays him so much just to recover most of the time.

I think Kawhi Leonard isn't a superstar like many think he is, sure when he played he won, but that was just two good seasons from him, aside from that he never played that great and I think it's clear that even with all that much talent, when you are missing most of the season, you are not a threat to anyone and teams write off Clippers before the season starts, even if Kawhi starts the season healthy, they bet that he will get injured again anyway.

Well the injuries has cause him alot , especially his knee injury which made him to miss some season . During the year 2015-2016 he was among the all-time 75 best player, one thing about athletes injuries is one of their greatest enemy which can easily end their career or reduce the growth in their career.

I believe if wasn't for Kawhi Leonard injuries he would have been able to keep his streak .

[Questat]

I believe if wasn't for Kawhi Leonard injuries he would have been able to keep his streak .

True, they managed to build a solid team with PG, Westbrook, and other key role players. I think the real issue lies with the Clippers management. Even before Kawhi was signed/traded to the Raptors, he was already injury-prone. But coach Nick Nurse did an excellent job managing his minutes, using load management effectively. It paid off, as Kawhi was incredibly consistent during the playoffs. And if you think about it, the Raptors' roster back then wasn’t as stacked compared to the Clippers’ roster when Leonard was traded.

[Fredomago]

That's right, Clippers shoulder him and gave him huge contracts but until know he's not bringing anything for the franchise as he keeps resting because of his injury.

They can't force him as there's doctors recommendations and if he needs to rest then he should be resting, like you mentioned he's level of being a star is fading and it's the name that gives clippers some revenue those who still buying his collectibles but NBA wise as a franchise player there's no conversions after he's being acquired.

The Clippers have no identity anymore, that's also a problem. If you build around a boring personality like Kawhi and then he doesn't even play it's hard to form anything.
In the past the Clips had some sort of identity, even when they were the "never win Clippers". After that is was "lob city", which was the definitely the high point of the franchise with player like CP3, Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. But now, who actually cares about the Clippers anymore, nobody. They got a shiny new arena, live in a shiny city but there is nothing interesting about them now! 

Sad true, way back even they keep failing themselves losing both from Warriors and Spurs but they've got something that fans really wanting to support them, I was one of those who loves seeing CP3 throwing that high ball either with DeAndre or Blake and you'll be enjoying how they played in the air or how they manage to catch and dunks the ball.

It was pandemic season if I remember it right when Clippers was upset by the young Nuggets after they led 3-1 or something like that, it was anticipated that it might be a battle of LA's in the west but Nuggets bounce back and snatch that West finals slot from the Clippers, then the rest was all about Kawhi's injuries..

[ultrloa]

I believe if wasn't for Kawhi Leonard injuries he would have been able to keep his streak .

True, they managed to build a solid team with PG, Westbrook, and other key role players. I think the real issue lies with the Clippers management. Even before Kawhi was signed/traded to the Raptors, he was already injury-prone. But coach Nick Nurse did an excellent job managing his minutes, using load management effectively. It paid off, as Kawhi was incredibly consistent during the playoffs. And if you think about it, the Raptors' roster back then wasn’t as stacked compared to the Clippers’ roster when Leonard was traded.

But now that PG 13 is out on Clippers then they really need the service of Kawhi since the gap to fill by PG's departure is so big and they need to fill up those contributions he bring to his team. So don't know what will be the adjustment done by Clippers in this situation since if they only trust Harden to lead their team then I think nothing will happen on them. So Kawhi need to be healthy and play more games since they might fall short this season if they still keep doing that load management thing in their team. Kawhi is important piece for their team but his prone to injuries is really a huge problem for Clippers.

Let see how Clippers will handle this situation or they still do the load management thing and see if they can able to reach far in this season.

[Questat]

I believe if wasn't for Kawhi Leonard injuries he would have been able to keep his streak .

True, they managed to build a solid team with PG, Westbrook, and other key role players. I think the real issue lies with the Clippers management. Even before Kawhi was signed/traded to the Raptors, he was already injury-prone. But coach Nick Nurse did an excellent job managing his minutes, using load management effectively. It paid off, as Kawhi was incredibly consistent during the playoffs. And if you think about it, the Raptors' roster back then wasn’t as stacked compared to the Clippers’ roster when Leonard was traded.

But now that PG 13 is out on Clippers then they really need the service of Kawhi since the gap to fill by PG's departure is so big and they need to fill up those contributions he bring to his team. So don't know what will be the adjustment done by Clippers in this situation since if they only trust Harden to lead their team then I think nothing will happen on them. So Kawhi need to be healthy and play more games since they might fall short this season if they still keep doing that load management thing in their team. Kawhi is important piece for their team but his prone to injuries is really a huge problem for Clippers.

Let see how Clippers will handle this situation or they still do the load management thing and see if they can able to reach far in this season.

I think Leonard performs better without too many superstars around him. As for Harden, his production has definitely dropped, but if Leonard gets injured again, Harden will have no choice but to step up. However, in that case, the Clippers might struggle to even make the playoffs.

A healthy Leonard is a real threat, and who knows, maybe next season the Clippers could finally win their first franchise championship. The downside is that Leonard isn't getting any younger, and the injuries he’s facing now are definitely a worrying sign for the future.

[LogitechMouse]

Jayson Tatum said something about the Finals.
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Just like Tatum, I thought it would be the Denver Nuggets too. I never expected that much from Kyrie and Luka of the Mavs that year because I thought they were still building their chemistry. That was really a surprising end on the Western Conference side.
Well, this year will be more surprising, I see the Timberwolves going back strong in the WCF, maybe against the Mavs again or the Nuggets. Eastern Conference could become unpredictable and I see the Knicks being on the top if healthy. 76ers should not be underestimated too after acquiring PG13, as long as he and Embiid stay healthy it will be a scary duo, plus Maxey of course.
I have doubts that the Celtics could make a back-to-back championship.

Many of us expected the same thing, and I think it's pretty normal that we think that way knowing that they're the defending champions at that time.

TBH, that Finals Match-up would be much better than that of Dallas-Boston. No disrespect to the Mavericks because they're a strong team, but it would be a better series in my opinion if it's Denver-Boston. It is what is, and the Nuggets can contend again this season and get that 2nd title... or are they a title contender right now? Why and why not? As for the contenders for the West, I see the Timberwolves as well to compete, but let's not forget the Thunder that just got an upgrade with the acquisition of Hartenstein and Caruso. I will not be surprised if the Thunder will win a title in the next 3-5 years with their current roster or at least the core players intact.

As for the East, Knicks might be the "dark horse" of the East but I'm thinking of who will be their Center if Mitchell Robinson will get injured. They don't have a back-up big because they let Hartenstein walk away, and because of this, I see the Sixers as the top contender in the East aside from the Celtics. Bucks? Nah, just forget about them they're pretty shit in defense and you can't win a title if you're that bad on defense. Will the Celtics make a back-to-back? TBH, they can. I mean the roster's almost the same, and their role players stayed which is a good thing. If there's one hindrance to them, it's injuries, but I think they can do it.

[jossiel]

He was once a superstar but after all, that faded away.

He's got a nice stint with Spurs and Raptors but being with the Clippers seems like the team has caught a falling knife.

So his contract with the Clippers will be up to 2026-2027, that's a nice paycheck without having much to play at all. 

That's right, Clippers shoulder him and gave him huge contracts but until know he's not bringing anything for the franchise as he keeps resting because of his injury.

They can't force him as there's doctors recommendations and if he needs to rest then he should be resting, like you mentioned he's level of being a star is fading and it's the name that gives clippers some revenue those who still buying his collectibles but NBA wise as a franchise player there's no conversions after he's being acquired.

They have no use of him when he's injured but just some claps and cheer to his teammates.

But once he's healthy again, it's not about how he can contribute but the worries will start of what if he gets injured again. 

Well, a business that became a business of a star player. Well done, Kawhi! 

[wheelz1200]

He was once a superstar but after all, that faded away.

He's got a nice stint with Spurs and Raptors but being with the Clippers seems like the team has caught a falling knife.

So his contract with the Clippers will be up to 2026-2027, that's a nice paycheck without having much to play at all.  

That's right, Clippers shoulder him and gave him huge contracts but until know he's not bringing anything for the franchise as he keeps resting because of his injury.

They can't force him as there's doctors recommendations and if he needs to rest then he should be resting, like you mentioned he's level of being a star is fading and it's the name that gives clippers some revenue those who still buying his collectibles but NBA wise as a franchise player there's no conversions after he's being acquired.

They have no use of him when he's injured but just some claps and cheer to his teammates.

But once he's healthy again, it's not about how he can contribute but the worries will start of what if he gets injured again.  

Well, a business that became a business of a star player. Well done, Kawhi!  

It's honestly a shame dude would have been a top 5 player in the league if he was healthy.  Was deadly on both ends of the floor.  I always loved he had that mid range jumper that was unstoppable.  He played like the dudes back in the 1990s played, didn't just sit around the 3 point line chucking up random 3s.  I root for the guy but agree, when he is on the floor ypu just wonder when's the next trip to the bench. 

Weird part is Paul George's games played is about the same but people saying he is gonna save the 76ers at 34 years old with 50 year old knees lol.

[jossiel]

They have no use of him when he's injured but just some claps and cheer to his teammates.

But once he's healthy again, it's not about how he can contribute but the worries will start of what if he gets injured again.  

Well, a business that became a business of a star player. Well done, Kawhi!  

It's honestly a shame dude would have been a top 5 player in the league if he was healthy.  Was deadly on both ends of the floor.  I always loved he had that mid range jumper that was unstoppable.  He played like the dudes back in the 1990s played, didn't just sit around the 3 point line chucking up random 3s.  I root for the guy but agree, when he is on the floor ypu just wonder when's the next trip to the bench. 

Weird part is Paul George's games played is about the same but people saying he is gonna save the 76ers at 34 years old with 50 year old knees lol.

Hahaha, that's how it goes for them now. They've got the oldies knees and maybe Kawhi will be staying for that long and who knows if his next move is retirement.

Just in: Derrick Rose has been waived by the Memphis Grizzlies. 

Derrick Rose: Parting ways with Memphis

[dwyane36]

Just in: Derrick Rose has been waived by the Memphis Grizzlies. 

Derrick Rose: Parting ways with Memphis

There are rumors that Rose himself has expressed a desire to leave the team. And it seems that Rose and the Grizzlies' management agreed on a buyout after he asked to be released from his contract. If that's true, it's a strange decision.
I don't know if he made this decision because of injuries or other reasons, but I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to retire.

[freedomgo]

Just in: Derrick Rose has been waived by the Memphis Grizzlies. 

Derrick Rose: Parting ways with Memphis

There are rumors that Rose himself has expressed a desire to leave the team. And it seems that Rose and the Grizzlies' management agreed on a buyout after he asked to be released from his contract. If that's true, it's a strange decision.
I don't know if he made this decision because of injuries or other reasons, but I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to retire.

Hopefully, that hasn’t crossed his mind yet. We’ll never forget Derrick Rose as the youngest MVP in NBA history, making the Bulls such an exciting team to watch during his prime. It would be great if the Bulls, as a gesture of appreciation, allowed Rose to retire with them (if that’s something Rose would want too).

[TravelMug]

Just in: Derrick Rose has been waived by the Memphis Grizzlies. 

Derrick Rose: Parting ways with Memphis

There are rumors that Rose himself has expressed a desire to leave the team. And it seems that Rose and the Grizzlies' management agreed on a buyout after he asked to be released from his contract. If that's true, it's a strange decision.
I don't know if he made this decision because of injuries or other reasons, but I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to retire.

Maybe it's time for him to just retire, and it seems that this buyout is already a proof of it. Although as fans we don't what him to retire and wanted to see him play, but teams might not be interested because we all know that after the injury, it was a different Derrick Rose.

Although he tries to revived his career developing his outside shot, teams are not willing to take their chance against the former MVP as he could reinjured himself or he might not contribute at all just like in last playing days with the Grizzlies.

[Oasisman]

Just in: Derrick Rose has been waived by the Memphis Grizzlies. 

Derrick Rose: Parting ways with Memphis

There are rumors that Rose himself has expressed a desire to leave the team. And it seems that Rose and the Grizzlies' management agreed on a buyout after he asked to be released from his contract. If that's true, it's a strange decision.
I don't know if he made this decision because of injuries or other reasons, but I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to retire.

Hopefully, that hasn’t crossed his mind yet. We’ll never forget Derrick Rose as the youngest MVP in NBA history, making the Bulls such an exciting team to watch during his prime.

Pretty sure that has crossed his mind already many times most probably. But, he's just maximizing his chance to still be in the league as long as there are teams who are willing to sign him.
That injury has devastated him both physically and mentally. Though he made a little come back of his old self outside Chicago, but that's just it. He's got passion in playing ball, but I think the injury still lingers somewhere at the back of his mind and that potentially hold him back, aside from the physical effects, from performing his best.

[Dave1]

That's right, Clippers shoulder him and gave him huge contracts but until know he's not bringing anything for the franchise as he keeps resting because of his injury.

They can't force him as there's doctors recommendations and if he needs to rest then he should be resting, like you mentioned he's level of being a star is fading and it's the name that gives clippers some revenue those who still buying his collectibles but NBA wise as a franchise player there's no conversions after he's being acquired.

The Clippers have no identity anymore, that's also a problem. If you build around a boring personality like Kawhi and then he doesn't even play it's hard to form anything.
In the past the Clips had some sort of identity, even when they were the "never win Clippers". After that is was "lob city", which was the definitely the high point of the franchise with player like CP3, Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. But now, who actually cares about the Clippers anymore, nobody. They got a shiny new arena, live in a shiny city but there is nothing interesting about them now! 

Well the identity of the city of Los Angeles still belongs to the Lakers. And as much as the Ballmer wanted to change that during the lob city, they can't as they can't win any NBA ring with the prime CP3 and Blake and Jordan, it's like there are still missing pieces. And they try to rebuild, Ballmer throwing a lot of money that time to acquire Kahwi. Unfortunately, it was a different version of Leonard already, as he was not the same anymore.

So even if they got that shiny new arena, and new players, if they are not going to win any, the city will be with the Lakers. They have Lebron, they won a ring in the bubble and they still have the banners along with the championship and retire great players. Clippers can't take that away, and now they've lost Paul George.

[arwin100]

Just in: Derrick Rose has been waived by the Memphis Grizzlies. 

Derrick Rose: Parting ways with Memphis

There are rumors that Rose himself has expressed a desire to leave the team. And it seems that Rose and the Grizzlies' management agreed on a buyout after he asked to be released from his contract. If that's true, it's a strange decision.
I don't know if he made this decision because of injuries or other reasons, but I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to retire.

Hopefully, that hasn’t crossed his mind yet. We’ll never forget Derrick Rose as the youngest MVP in NBA history, making the Bulls such an exciting team to watch during his prime.

Pretty sure that has crossed his mind already many times most probably. But, he's just maximizing his chance to still be in the league as long as there are teams who are willing to sign him.
That injury has devastated him both physically and mentally. Though he made a little come back of his old self outside Chicago, but that's just it. He's got passion in playing ball, but I think the injury still lingers somewhere at the back of his mind and that potentially hold him back, aside from the physical effects, from performing his best.

He knows already that due to his health status he cannot play more games that's why retirement provably already came out in his mind. This incident where he was been departed from Memphis might provably pull a trigger that he could decide to retire. But many fans asking that Bulls should sign him for last time since its so good to see Rose the youngest MVP in NBA, a past superstar on Bulls will retire on the team where he drafted and experience those best moments of his career.

If Bulls would let that happen then it will be epic and fans provably gonna like to see it to happen in their franchise.

[Fredomago]

He was once a superstar but after all, that faded away.

He's got a nice stint with Spurs and Raptors but being with the Clippers seems like the team has caught a falling knife.

So his contract with the Clippers will be up to 2026-2027, that's a nice paycheck without having much to play at all. 

That's right, Clippers shoulder him and gave him huge contracts but until know he's not bringing anything for the franchise as he keeps resting because of his injury.

They can't force him as there's doctors recommendations and if he needs to rest then he should be resting, like you mentioned he's level of being a star is fading and it's the name that gives clippers some revenue those who still buying his collectibles but NBA wise as a franchise player there's no conversions after he's being acquired.

They have no use of him when he's injured but just some claps and cheer to his teammates.

But once he's healthy again, it's not about how he can contribute but the worries will start of what if he gets injured again. 

Well, a business that became a business of a star player. Well done, Kawhi! 

Yeah right, he's earning by way and he doesn't need to worry once the doctors clear him then he will play in hope that there's no additional injuries to happen, but like what you just said that's the worries once he start playing hard and try helping the team chances that injury may take place and lead him to sit again.

More on the business side and once the management decided not to sign him back, that's  huge free allocation to offer for another star or sets of role players..

[avp2306]

They have no use of him when he's injured but just some claps and cheer to his teammates.

But once he's healthy again, it's not about how he can contribute but the worries will start of what if he gets injured again. 

Well, a business that became a business of a star player. Well done, Kawhi! 

Yeah right, he's earning by way and he doesn't need to worry once the doctors clear him then he will play in hope that there's no additional injuries to happen, but like what you just said that's the worries once he start playing hard and try helping the team chances that injury may take place and lead him to sit again.

More on the business side and once the management decided not to sign him back, that's  huge free allocation to offer for another star or sets of role players..

This is why he's not playing a back to back game since his team make sure that he's well rested. That's the problem on crucial games since instead of they can look forward for his contribution the team will get worried about his health if he could able to continue or will got injured.

After this contract if his status remain like that maybe other team might doubt to offer him a big contract again. He's aging player and that's bad business for a team if they get a injury prone player. NBA is business and they need a player that can lift their team to championship since this will determine the value of their team also the revenue they can possibly get from their fans. But for now Kawhi is a hot player for them and still Clippers still value his contribution for his team.

[danherbias07]

As for the East, Knicks might be the "dark horse" of the East but I'm thinking of who will be their Center if Mitchell Robinson will get injured. They don't have a back-up big because they let Hartenstein walk away, and because of this, I see the Sixers as the top contender in the East aside from the Celtics. Bucks? Nah, just forget about them they're pretty shit in defense and you can't win a title if you're that bad on defense. Will the Celtics make a back-to-back? TBH, they can. I mean the roster's almost the same, and their role players stayed which is a good thing. If there's one hindrance to them, it's injuries, but I think they can do it.

"Dark Horse" I like the sound of that. The New York Knicks had been doing great at rebuilding their team. The now Quadro Villanova players in their team will probably get some good chemistry although they are still playing small ball without Robinson.
The same as you, I also don't see the Bucks in the picture. Last season was so shitty that I have no interest in watching them play. As for the Celtics getting a back-to-back, they need to be fully healthy to achieve that. That backcourt defense of Jrue and White will be their key especially when playing against the like of the Knicks, like what they did with the Mavs.

Since the Clippers' name floated here. Remember that they will be playing at their new home this season.
NBA schedule news: Clippers to open Intuit Dome on Oct. 23 against the Suns
Los Angeles Times

The Clippers will open their new arena, Intuit Dome, with their first regular-season NBA game on Oct. 23 against the Phoenix Suns and Team USA Olympic gold medal winners Kevin Durant and Devin Booker. The Clippers will be led by stars Kawhi Leonard and James Harden, leaving Crypto.com Arena for a $2-billion state-of-the-art arena in Inglewood built by owner Steve Ballmer.

The Clippers will face Paul George, who after five years with the Clippers spurned them to sign a four-year deal worth $212 million with the 76ers this summer, for the first time on Nov. 6 when Philadelphia visits Intuit Dome.

It will be felt more when they are up against the Lakers at their own home.