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October 26, 2015, 12:52:59 PM
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I just read an ad on the forum saying "The forum was founded in 2009 by Satoshi and Sirius. It replaced a SourceForge forum." . So my question is just that how did Sirius and Satoshi and sirius came to know about each other? And assuming that sirius doesn't know satoshi, then how were they able to have enough trust on each other as to run a complete forum?
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October 26, 2015, 12:55:19 PM
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Not sure if sirius.

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October 26, 2015, 12:56:33 PM
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The answer is always 42.. ohh wait.
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October 26, 2015, 12:58:53 PM
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not even sirius, from what i knew, know about the true identity of satoshi, they were collaborating via chat supposedly

i may think that they start to know each other via internet, in some sort of geek site, you can get to know about people easily on the web

i discovered for example a good programmer, that helped me with a renting bot
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October 26, 2015, 01:05:21 PM
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A big probability is they happened to cross each other on the mailing list where satoshi introduced bitcoin wherein he uses a different handle. Or, a far-fetched theory, they know each other personally.

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October 26, 2015, 01:30:24 PM
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The Bitcoin wiki says the forum started on Sourceforge, then Sirus offered to provide hosting for a proper forum. The old Sourceforge forum was then moved to bitcoin.org, and the forum was moved again in 2011 to bitcointalk.org. There are still some posts from the original Sourceforge forum preserved here. I guess Sirus must have had an account on the Sourceforge forum, and you could check it out in the old preserved posts.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BitcoinTalk#History

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Before the creation of the current BitcoinTalk Forum, Satoshi used a SourceForge forum, which is lost. When Sirius provided hosting, the forum was moved to bitcoin.org/smf. Satoshi made several custom modifications to the forum software and theme.

Satoshi's first non-test post on the forum was:

I left the admin account set to the original SMF theme so if I somehow completely wedge the custom theme I can still get in to fix it.

I've got a neat little 12x12 coin image to replace those pip stars with. Should look nice. Also some nice button images to try.

The registration page has "hide your e-mail address" unchecked by default. I must fix that in php before we can open up.

The Announcements forum is currently moderator access only.

The forum was at some point moved to forum.bitcoin.org. The bitcoin.org domain name was also transferred from Satoshi to Sirius.

In July, 2011 the forum was moved to bitcointalk.org in order to make it explicitly unofficial. The "forum" link on the bitcoin.org homepage was made to simply return the Google search results for the search terms "bitcoin forums".
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October 26, 2015, 01:43:40 PM
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May be sirius also hiding the creator of bitcoin and hiding himself too. No probability?

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October 26, 2015, 01:48:10 PM
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May be sirius also hiding the creator of bitcoin and hiding himself too. No probability?

Wait... i will ask that to Shinichi Mochizuki
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October 26, 2015, 01:52:48 PM
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May be sirius also hiding the creator of bitcoin and hiding himself too. No probability?

Wait... i will ask that to Shinichi Mochizuki

I think that all of these questions will remain mystery forever and some answer we will never get to find out. Who is Satoshi? How did he meet the others like Hal, Gavin, Sirius ? Do they know who is Satoshi or one of these guys might be Satoshi, etc..

These will always be here just to discuss and produce theories but the truth, who knows about truth!
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October 26, 2015, 01:53:43 PM
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Each one have different theory and different opinion , for what comes to my opinion I think that Sirius knew Satoshi Nakamoto (probably personally) and same goes with theymos , otherwise I don't see how he would trust both of them to run this valuable forum and bitcoin.org as-well . It's not a trust  that can be gained from knowing someone on the internet .

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October 26, 2015, 03:00:29 PM
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Sirius is quoted (http://unbit.nl/2014/09/16/martti-malmi-on-bitcoin-and-identifi/) as saying:
    ” Googling for “p2p currency” I found the recently published Bitcoin white paper, which was the only completely decentralized solution out there. After reading it, I’ve e-mailed Satoshi and offered him my help with the project. I wrote some documentation, helped refactor bitcoin.org and set up the bitcointalk.org forums. I did some work on the Bitcoin code, submitted UI improvements and ported the Windows-only client to Linux.

    Besides Hal Finney doing some testing in early 2009, it was basically just me and Satoshi working on Bitcoin, until Gavin Andresen joined in 2010. “

He found the bitcoin paper on the cryptography mailing list. Hal and martti/sirius were there.
I don't recall much discussion on the cypherpunks list (which was pretty much defunct at the time), but hal was originally a regular there too. Most of the cryptography list at least read the cypherpunks list and v.v.

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October 26, 2015, 05:57:03 PM
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May be sirius also hiding the creator of bitcoin and hiding himself too. No probability?

Wait... i will ask that to Shinichi Mochizuki
oh! Shinichi can evaluate the probability, if sirius knows the real inventor of bitcoin but, he's hiding.
But what if, sirius was the creator of bitcoin? And he was hiding (even sirius is not his own name, IMO)

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October 26, 2015, 07:16:51 PM
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Several of the early adopters including sirius and hal finney learned about Bitcoin when Satoshi posted it on the cypherpunks mailing list.

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October 26, 2015, 07:47:17 PM
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May be sirius also hiding the creator of bitcoin and hiding himself too. No probability?

Wait... i will ask that to Shinichi Mochizuki
Who is he? your imaginary friend?  Smiley

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October 26, 2015, 09:34:45 PM
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May be sirius also hiding the creator of bitcoin and hiding himself too. No probability?

Wait... i will ask that to Shinichi Mochizuki
Who is he? your imaginary friend?  Smiley

I think he means this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinichi_Mochizuki
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October 26, 2015, 11:32:18 PM
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May be sirius also hiding the creator of bitcoin and hiding himself too. No probability?

Wait... i will ask that to Shinichi Mochizuki
Who is he? your imaginary friend?  Smiley

Dig boy!  Wink
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October 26, 2015, 11:33:26 PM
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May be sirius also hiding the creator of bitcoin and hiding himself too. No probability?

Wait... i will ask that to Shinichi Mochizuki
Who is he? your imaginary friend?  Smiley

I think he means this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinichi_Mochizuki

Yes, it is him! Wait to get some more news about him Wink
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October 27, 2015, 01:56:50 AM
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May be sirius also hiding the creator of bitcoin and hiding himself too. No probability?

Wait... i will ask that to Shinichi Mochizuki
Who is he? your imaginary friend?  Smiley

I think he means this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinichi_Mochizuki

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When he was five years old, Shinichi Mochizuki and his family left Japan to live in New York City. Mochizuki attended Phillips Exeter Academy and graduated in 1985. He entered Princeton University as an undergraduate at age 16 and graduated salutatorian in 1988. He then received a Ph.D. under the supervision of Gerd Faltings at age 23. He joined the Research Institute for Mathematical Sciences in Kyoto University in 1992 and was promoted to professor in 2002.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Andresen

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After graduating from Princeton University in 1988, Andresen began his career working on 3D graphics software at Silicon Graphics Computer Systems. In 1996, he co-authored the VRML 2.0 specification, and later published a reference manual.

After class, Shinichi and Gavin would frequent the local pub and do shots.  Grin
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October 27, 2015, 02:56:02 PM
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May be sirius also hiding the creator of bitcoin and hiding himself too. No probability?

Wait... i will ask that to Shinichi Mochizuki
Who is he? your imaginary friend?  Smiley

I think he means this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinichi_Mochizuki

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When he was five years old, Shinichi Mochizuki and his family left Japan to live in New York City. Mochizuki attended Phillips Exeter Academy and graduated in 1985. He entered Princeton University as an undergraduate at age 16 and graduated salutatorian in 1988. He then received a Ph.D. under the supervision of Gerd Faltings at age 23. He joined the Research Institute for Mathematical Sciences in Kyoto University in 1992 and was promoted to professor in 2002.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Andresen

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After graduating from Princeton University in 1988, Andresen began his career working on 3D graphics software at Silicon Graphics Computer Systems. In 1996, he co-authored the VRML 2.0 specification, and later published a reference manual.

After class, Shinichi and Gavin would frequent the local pub and do shots.  Grin

You are getting there  Wink
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