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October 27, 2015, 01:07:30 PM
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Hello Dear,

I have a question and i hope someone can help me out. I see on the Tor network a lot of dark marketplaces where you can pay with bitcoin. My question, how do they make those markets? Is there any tutorial we can find?

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October 27, 2015, 01:09:35 PM
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Hello Dear,

I have a question and i hope someone can help me out. I see on the Tor network a lot of dark marketplaces where you can pay with bitcoin. My question, how do they make those markets? Is there any tutorial we can find?



Just like how you set up a market online here in the clear web. Rhe only difference is that most markets in there are from illegal activities and they only allow bitcoin as a mode of payment for the anonimity purpose.

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October 27, 2015, 01:15:56 PM
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I can understand, but i looks like that there all using the same kind of system...
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October 27, 2015, 01:22:39 PM
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I can understand, but i looks like that there all using the same kind of system...
As far as I know Bitcoin started evolving after the huge success of Silk Road (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace)).
Be extremely careful if you set a black market. The first clients can be secret service agents. They can come with hundreds of BTC and become your friends. Few month later you can be in a prison  Sad.

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October 27, 2015, 01:27:53 PM
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Ok tanks, but i dont want to sell bad stuff.. i just want to use that system that they use. Hope someone can help me out.
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October 27, 2015, 01:57:06 PM
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Ok tanks, but i dont want to sell bad stuff.. i just want to use that system that they use. Hope someone can help me out.

You can search in duckgogo or other search portal in tor. There are forums in there and I am sure you will find some answer in that. I'd like to make some research for you but unfortunately my internet is painstakingly slow at the moment.

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October 27, 2015, 02:12:38 PM
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Allready search that way.. its like impossible to find an answer on my question  Tongue But i don't give up..!
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October 27, 2015, 09:49:55 PM
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Allready search that way.. its like impossible to find an answer on my question  Tongue But i don't give up..!
For educational purposes only.
Search on google about "how to create a site in tor".
From my knowledge before tor: break a few servers, put the site on one of them. Do not connect directly to the web server, you must connect to multiple broken servers to get your trace lost. The last computer must not be your home computer, it must be an infected one, to not get the police knocking on your door. In this way the police will knock on someone else door, and ... they will find an infected computer  Smiley.

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October 28, 2015, 07:01:19 AM
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I used to lurk before on the deep web out of curiosity and I also noticed that most black markets were kinda similar , probably they have similar scripts cuz I once saw a marketplace there selling scripts of ponzi, HYIP , marketplace, etc.

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October 29, 2015, 11:23:23 AM
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https://www.thecthulhu.com/setting-up-a-hidden-service-with-nginx/

Here is a very simple set up. If you don't plan on doing anything illegal right now then you could practice in a virtual machine.
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October 29, 2015, 11:00:48 PM
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https://www.thecthulhu.com/setting-up-a-hidden-service-with-nginx/

Here is a very simple set up. If you don't plan on doing anything illegal right now then you could practice in a virtual machine.
Neat guide. It is still pretty over my head.
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October 30, 2015, 06:35:25 AM
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https://www.thecthulhu.com/setting-up-a-hidden-service-with-nginx/

Here is a very simple set up. If you don't plan on doing anything illegal right now then you could practice in a virtual machine.
Is it illegal just to have a onion site running in the first place? That would be a cool thing to try but I am scared to dabble in that stuff.
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October 30, 2015, 07:09:30 AM
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https://www.thecthulhu.com/setting-up-a-hidden-service-with-nginx/

Here is a very simple set up. If you don't plan on doing anything illegal right now then you could practice in a virtual machine.
Is it illegal just to have a onion site running in the first place? That would be a cool thing to try but I am scared to dabble in that stuff.
I don't think it is at all illegal to run an onion site as long as it is legal. There are legitimate websites that run mirrors on tor without facing any prosecution.

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October 30, 2015, 07:31:44 AM
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https://www.thecthulhu.com/setting-up-a-hidden-service-with-nginx/

Here is a very simple set up. If you don't plan on doing anything illegal right now then you could practice in a virtual machine.
Is it illegal just to have a onion site running in the first place? That would be a cool thing to try but I am scared to dabble in that stuff.
Its not illegal but it seems illegal bcuz of the illegal contents on most of the onion sites out there. Onion sites were made for privacy and anonimity purposes , its nothing illegal there but bcuz of its anonymous nature, people tend to make unlawful shits.


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October 30, 2015, 11:00:15 PM
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I guess anyone involved may be too twitchy to get into extended conversations.

You could ask here - https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets

I'm sure there'll be plenty of people who are clued in.

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October 31, 2015, 06:20:38 PM
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Ok tanks, but i dont want to sell bad stuff.. i just want to use that system that they use. Hope someone can help me out.

well i think openbazaar is great place, rather than build a dark marketplace, you know people who see "dark market" is usually judge bad thing.
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well i think openbazaar is great place, rather than build a dark marketplace, you know people who see "dark market" is usually judge bad thing.

Until they get plenty of things sorted out you'll only be able to buy and sell on Openbazaar if you're running the full program on your machine. That's going to limit your market to a few hundred die hards.

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November 01, 2015, 12:20:58 PM
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There is open source software for this here: https://github.com/Bit-Wasp/BitWasp

The developers run the Aflao market, which has been opened quite recently. Here are some referral code links if you fancy signing up to Aflao to check it out Wink

Buyer signup: http://fuc3bgvav4epcydh.onion/

Seller Signup http://fuc3bgvav4epcydh.onion/

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November 03, 2015, 10:51:09 AM
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Bitwasp clearly tells you on their website not to use them. OP you can check out https://www.reddit.com/r/darknetmarkets be sure to spend some time on https://www.reddit.com/r/darknetmarketsnoobs first though. Once again can't say this clearly enough no one use bitwasp to create a marketplace!

Also personally I wouldn't follow Cryptorials links, 100% chance its either a phishing attempt or the marketplace has near zero vendors. I would only trust links posted here https://www.reddit.com/r/darknetmarkets/wiki/superlist the most popular are abraxas alphabay and nucleus. Reddit loves abraxas the most out of that list.
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November 03, 2015, 01:49:27 PM
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Bitwasp clearly tells you on their website not to use them. OP you can check out https://www.reddit.com/r/darknetmarkets be sure to spend some time on https://www.reddit.com/r/darknetmarketsnoobs first though. Once again can't say this clearly enough no one use bitwasp to create a marketplace!

Also personally I wouldn't follow Cryptorials links, 100% chance its either a phishing attempt or the marketplace has near zero vendors. I would only trust links posted here https://www.reddit.com/r/darknetmarkets/wiki/superlist the most popular are abraxas alphabay and nucleus. Reddit loves abraxas the most out of that list.

I think its unlikely that you will find anything reliable about how to make a marketplace yourself on Reddit, but there's no harm in asking around.

I agree that BitWasp is not production ready, as it says clearly on the Github page I share a link to (I presume that's what you mean by the website?), but I'm pretty sure its the closest thing there is right now to an 'off the shelf' script for setting up your own market. Also its under active development so at some point in the future it should be ok to use, but you're right that as the intro on GitHub says its far from ready for general release so unless you really know what you are doing its not a good idea to set up a marketplace using it right now.

I can assure you that the links aren't phishing attempts on my part, I have tested the market and had no problems - of course that's no guarantee for the future. I run Cryptorials.io which regularly publishes popular articles on deep web related topics and, for example, is #1 in Google for 'how to buy things on the deep web' and the first page for 'dark markets' and 'how to sell drugs online'. You are right that they don't have a lot of vendors though, because as I said when I shared the links it has only been set up quite recently after the owners took over development of bitwasp, which was I understand from a deepdotweb article was previously released and used by a number of marketplaces but had problems due to newbies setting up sites without knowing what they were doing and getting themselves in trouble.

EDIT: It is safer to use established sites like Abraxas though. I shared the links mainly because of the relationship to BitWasp.

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