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January 13, 2016, 03:15:18 AM
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My advise would be to stay our of those markets unless that is your market.  Obviously, you do not know much about them, so I am assuming that is not your market.  Those places give BTC a bad name and do not help with the advancement of BTC.  Again, this is only my opinion.  I personally do not support those markets in any way.

I wouldnt be so judgy, most of bitcoins value is BECAUSE of those darkmarkets, and the demand they create, not regardless....

In the old days, the bitcoin was valuable due to the dark markets. But it is totally different now. It has more legitimate use.
My advise would be to stay our of those markets unless that is your market.  Obviously, you do not know much about them, so I am assuming that is not your market.  Those places give BTC a bad name and do not help with the advancement of BTC.  Again, this is only my opinion.  I personally do not support those markets in any way.

I wouldnt be so judgy, most of bitcoins value is BECAUSE of those darkmarkets, and the demand they create, not regardless....

In the old days, the bitcoin was valuable due to the dark markets. But it is totally different now. It has more legitimate use.
I'd agree. I logged onto the darknet once; merely out of curiosity and all the "talk" and press it was receiving at the time of the Silk Road scandal. I used the method listed on the Reddit forum; I logged in using an OS called Tails run from a USB drive. They have an entire "this is how you need to do it and only do it this way" Guide; which led me to believe that either the people who operate and use those sites are either highly paranoid, or are paranoid for good reason.

Regarding what I saw; mostly narcotics; but a lot of the items I couldn't but laugh at wondering if "someone" was actually selling that kind of item and/or service. I don't remember which marketplace I went on; but the had categories, from:  Buying accounts like bank accounts, paypal accounts, etc; to conterfeit money for sale; to drugs; to weapons; services of all sorts; fake ID's and fake identites; and even a section for "persuasion" which included harrassment for hire.

A lot of it seemed to me like "ok you can buy drugs or a fake ID here". But at the same time; I honestly wondered if the people claiming to sell "near perfect conterfeit Euros" and "stolen credit cards" were actually real items for sale; or people just scamming/trying to scam naive buyers.

Regardless, I logged on that once, and haven't been back since.

Lastly; there was a lot of general items for sale too:  Next to Harassment Services they had Electronics for sale; Cameras, Computers - truly bizarre.

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January 13, 2016, 01:13:07 PM
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My advise would be to stay our of those markets unless that is your market.  Obviously, you do not know much about them, so I am assuming that is not your market.  Those places give BTC a bad name and do not help with the advancement of BTC.  Again, this is only my opinion.  I personally do not support those markets in any way.

I wouldnt be so judgy, most of bitcoins value is BECAUSE of those darkmarkets, and the demand they create, not regardless....

In the old days, the bitcoin was valuable due to the dark markets. But it is totally different now. It has more legitimate use.

So you say. But I'm not so sure about it. Maybe btc is secretly really backed by its use in blackmarket. It would explain the volatility that is truly inherent to the bitcoin!

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January 16, 2016, 08:31:41 AM
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THIS NEEDS MORE ATTENTION!!
Ill just leave this here.

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That is so sad!  land of the free... sure.  Seems not even white folks can get away with crime anymore.
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January 18, 2016, 05:55:10 AM
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My advise would be to stay our of those markets unless that is your market.  Obviously, you do not know much about them, so I am assuming that is not your market.  Those places give BTC a bad name and do not help with the advancement of BTC.  Again, this is only my opinion.  I personally do not support those markets in any way.

I wouldnt be so judgy, most of bitcoins value is BECAUSE of those darkmarkets, and the demand they create, not regardless....

In the old days, the bitcoin was valuable due to the dark markets. But it is totally different now. It has more legitimate use.

Dont underestimate the demand these dark markets still create. Do you think criminals would use bitcoin if there were no darkmarkets, what about all the drug users never wanting to use bitcoin, but NEED to to get good quality drugs... This STILL plays a HUGE part in the bitcoinrate...

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January 18, 2016, 08:45:14 PM
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My advise would be to stay our of those markets unless that is your market.  Obviously, you do not know much about them, so I am assuming that is not your market.  Those places give BTC a bad name and do not help with the advancement of BTC.  Again, this is only my opinion.  I personally do not support those markets in any way.

I wouldnt be so judgy, most of bitcoins value is BECAUSE of those darkmarkets, and the demand they create, not regardless....

In the old days, the bitcoin was valuable due to the dark markets. But it is totally different now. It has more legitimate use.

Dont underestimate the demand these dark markets still create. Do you think criminals would use bitcoin if there were no darkmarkets, what about all the drug users never wanting to use bitcoin, but NEED to to get good quality drugs... This STILL plays a HUGE part in the bitcoinrate...
Yep.  I don't know the numbers involved, but I think dark markets are a big driving force behind btc.  And gambling.  Honestly, the places to legitimately spend bitcoin are likely fewer than places you can buy stuff on the dark markets.

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January 19, 2016, 02:12:54 AM
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They obviously play some part... the most traded thing on the dark markets is apparently cannabis, which could be worth tens of billion dollars a year on the global market.  
Lets face it, its much less harmful than alcohol and will eventually be legalised, but for now its a big driver for bitcoin.

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January 20, 2016, 09:03:12 PM
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http://www.gvibes4u.com/list-of-darknet-marketplaces-pages/ best list
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January 22, 2016, 10:03:15 PM
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They obviously play some part... the most traded thing on the dark markets is apparently cannabis, which could be worth tens of billion dollars a year on the global market.  
Lets face it, its much less harmful than alcohol and will eventually be legalised, but for now its a big driver for bitcoin.

But the cannabis is legalized in the US now, why would anybody buy from the darknet?
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January 23, 2016, 02:55:18 AM
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i think they do that dark market bcause everthing they sale is an illegal things
the market is just a website they put the things to sell secrectly im sure..what?do you mean want to find the person who sell?
im sure you cant..its all secret dude...
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January 24, 2016, 08:42:42 AM
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They obviously play some part... the most traded thing on the dark markets is apparently cannabis, which could be worth tens of billion dollars a year on the global market.  
Lets face it, its much less harmful than alcohol and will eventually be legalised, but for now its a big driver for bitcoin.

But the cannabis is legalized in the US now, why would anybody buy from the darknet?

Simple, its because it is still illegal in some parts of the world so they are purchasing from darknet markets "anonymously". I guess that is much safer for them to buy online than in real life (probably because of the risks having a deal to an undercover) Cheesy
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January 28, 2016, 12:55:18 PM
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They obviously play some part... the most traded thing on the dark markets is apparently cannabis, which could be worth tens of billion dollars a year on the global market.  
Lets face it, its much less harmful than alcohol and will eventually be legalised, but for now its a big driver for bitcoin.

But the cannabis is legalized in the US now, why would anybody buy from the darknet?

Simple, its because it is still illegal in some parts of the world so they are purchasing from darknet markets "anonymously". I guess that is much safer for them to buy online than in real life (probably because of the risks having a deal to an undercover) Cheesy

I read some where saying that the silk road market reduced some kind of drug related crimes a lot. Because people did not have to trade face to face.
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January 28, 2016, 01:05:47 PM
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They obviously play some part... the most traded thing on the dark markets is apparently cannabis, which could be worth tens of billion dollars a year on the global market.  
Lets face it, its much less harmful than alcohol and will eventually be legalised, but for now its a big driver for bitcoin.

But the cannabis is legalized in the US now, why would anybody buy from the darknet?

There are a lot more countries where cannabis is illegal than not.
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January 28, 2016, 03:04:29 PM
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They obviously play some part... the most traded thing on the dark markets is apparently cannabis, which could be worth tens of billion dollars a year on the global market.  
Lets face it, its much less harmful than alcohol and will eventually be legalised, but for now its a big driver for bitcoin.

But the cannabis is legalized in the US now, why would anybody buy from the darknet?

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January 29, 2016, 09:46:29 AM
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Dark marketplaces doesn't need to be about illegal stuff.
There is a plenty other business.
 And it is good for health of bitcoin to have marketplaces wherever they can be
For small business it is cheaper to trade on darknet..
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January 29, 2016, 08:43:06 PM
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They obviously play some part... the most traded thing on the dark markets is apparently cannabis, which could be worth tens of billion dollars a year on the global market. 
Lets face it, its much less harmful than alcohol and will eventually be legalised, but for now its a big driver for bitcoin.

But the cannabis is legalized in the US now, why would anybody buy from the darknet?

*In some states only, don't forget that.



Yeah, that's very true... I think Colorado is still the only state that allows recreational use of marijuana.  There are a lot of states starting to allow medical uses of marijuana with a doctor's prescription, but definitely not a wide spread thing as of right now.

I'm pretty sure you have people moving to Colorado to start growing it in mass quantities and then selling them to people in states through the dark web markets still to this day.  Marijuana is definitely the cash crop out west though.

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Yeah, that's very true... I think Colorado is still the only state that allows recreational use of marijuana.  There are a lot of states starting to allow medical uses of marijuana with a doctor's prescription, but definitely not a wide spread thing as of right now.

Actually medical marijuana is legalized in 23 states and also Washington DC.  It's also incredibly easy to get a prescription.  (at least in many of them, I can't say for all)

Its legal for recreational use in Washington (State), Oregon, Alaska and Colorodo.  In many states, like New York for example, less than an ounce is not illegal to posses.  (Smoking it in public or selling it is though)

I'm pretty sure you have people moving to Colorado to start growing it in mass quantities and then selling them to people in states through the dark web markets still to this day.  Marijuana is definitely the cash crop out west though.

Marijuana grown legally in mass quantities is regulated by the government.  The price of legal marijuana is higher than darknet marketplaces(although its probably pretty close after taxes).  But no, that's not happening.

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February 01, 2016, 03:27:42 PM
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They obviously play some part... the most traded thing on the dark markets is apparently cannabis, which could be worth tens of billion dollars a year on the global market.  
Lets face it, its much less harmful than alcohol and will eventually be legalised, but for now its a big driver for bitcoin.

But the cannabis is legalized in the US now, why would anybody buy from the darknet?

Because you still break the law federally and are prone to abuse by any police officer not having his day if you take it from the car..... Not to mention prices....

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February 02, 2016, 02:40:54 AM
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Dark marketplaces doesn't need to be about illegal stuff.
There is a plenty other business.
 And it is good for health of bitcoin to have marketplaces wherever they can be
For small business it is cheaper to trade on darknet..
Yes, but your average Joe on the street would think that all items on the "darknet" are illegal saying if it's legal then why not just sell on the "clearnet"  ?

Just being on the "darknet" can continue to somewhat ruin bitcoins reputation as it has in the past.
(Although it is said that any advertising is good advertising s"o maybe it's not too bad)

The biggest problem that I know of with state legal marijuana is that the bank won't take their cash because they fall under federal law, not sure if this has been sorted out yet but if it will continue to be a problem then bitcoin should be the answer they are looking for.
There is a lot of "weed coins" around but they really should just go with bitcoin as it will be more versatile coin than say potcoin.

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February 05, 2016, 11:35:50 AM
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My advise would be to stay our of those markets unless that is your market.  Obviously, you do not know much about them, so I am assuming that is not your market.  Those places give BTC a bad name and do not help with the advancement of BTC.  Again, this is only my opinion.  I personally do not support those markets in any way.

I wouldnt be so judgy, most of bitcoins value is BECAUSE of those darkmarkets, and the demand they create, not regardless....

In the old days, the bitcoin was valuable due to the dark markets. But it is totally different now. It has more legitimate use.

Dont underestimate the demand these dark markets still create. Do you think criminals would use bitcoin if there were no darkmarkets, what about all the drug users never wanting to use bitcoin, but NEED to to get good quality drugs... This STILL plays a HUGE part in the bitcoinrate...

I agree!
I think the price of btc, and the sustainibility of this currency, is still based on illegal stuff.

Terorists might blow countries, but they sure as hell pump btc price! And so are the drug lords and firearm sellers.

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February 11, 2016, 08:48:23 PM
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Its just the union, the tor domain.

They also use a offshore server, I think its the best.

Although the websites are like any other website on the normal web.
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