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November 06, 2012, 12:14:23 AM
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Looking at Romney's record, Every single organization he managed, be it a multi-billion dollar company, a major sporting event or a large State. He had always balanced their budget, and it was always rising from a state of huge deficit. I trust Romney's excellent record. Therefore I'm voting Mitt Romney tomorrow.

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November 06, 2012, 12:19:17 AM
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November 06, 2012, 12:23:52 AM
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Looking at Romney's record, Every single organization he managed, be it a multi-billion dollar company, a major sporting event or a large State. He had always balanced their budget, and it was always rising from a state of huge deficit. I trust Romney's excellent record. Therefore I'm voting Mitt Romney tomorrow.

What about the support for Patriot Act? NDAA? Foreign entangling and debasing of the currency? Anyone who wants to wipe out my constitutional protections, Obama included (resigned Patriot Act, NDAA, tons of Executive Orders), doesn't have my vote.

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November 06, 2012, 12:26:44 AM
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Looking at Romney's record, Every single organization he managed, be it a multi-billion dollar company, a major sporting event or a large State. He had always balanced their budget, and it was always rising from a state of huge deficit. I trust Romney's excellent record. Therefore I'm voting Mitt Romney tomorrow.

What about the support for Patriot Act? NDAA? Foreign entangling and debasing of the currency? Anyone who wants to wipe out my constitutional protections, Obama included (resigned Patriot Act, NDAA, tons of Executive Orders), doesn't have my vote.

One thing at a time, the most important issue right now is that Obama has given you 6 trillion additional debt in 4 years, and Obama response to hitting the 16T debt ceiling is "we have always raised the debt ceiling when we hit it". Everything else is insignificant compared to the debt time bomb, just look at Greece.

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November 06, 2012, 12:29:12 AM
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Looking at Romney's record, Every single organization he managed, be it a multi-billion dollar company, a major sporting event or a large State. He had always balanced their budget, and it was always rising from a state of huge deficit. I trust Romney's excellent record. Therefore I'm voting Mitt Romney tomorrow.

What about the support for Patriot Act? NDAA? Foreign entangling and debasing of the currency? Anyone who wants to wipe out my constitutional protections, Obama included (resigned Patriot Act, NDAA, tons of Executive Orders), doesn't have my vote.

One thing at a time, the most important issue right now is that Obama has given you 6 trillion additional debt in 4 years, and Obama response to hitting the 16T debt ceiling is "we have always raised the debt ceiling when we hit it". Everything else is insignificant compared to the debt time bomb, just look at Greece.

Oh, yeah. As we stare out of our jail cells, we can all take comfort that the country is at least debt-free.

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November 06, 2012, 12:33:29 AM
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Looking at Romney's record, Every single organization he managed, be it a multi-billion dollar company, a major sporting event or a large State. He had always balanced their budget, and it was always rising from a state of huge deficit. I trust Romney's excellent record. Therefore I'm voting Mitt Romney tomorrow.

What about the support for Patriot Act? NDAA? Foreign entangling and debasing of the currency? Anyone who wants to wipe out my constitutional protections, Obama included (resigned Patriot Act, NDAA, tons of Executive Orders), doesn't have my vote.

One thing at a time, the most important issue right now is that Obama has given you 6 trillion additional debt in 4 years, and Obama response to hitting the 16T debt ceiling is "we have always raised the debt ceiling when we hit it". Everything else is insignificant compared to the debt time bomb, just look at Greece.

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Oh, yeah. As we stare out of our jail cells, we can all take comfort that the country is at least debt-free.

I can't reform anything if I am criminalized or my constitutional rights rescinded. Civil liberties first, then worry about debasing of currency and systematic theft. IMO.

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November 06, 2012, 12:44:14 AM
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Looking at Romney's record, Every single organization he managed, be it a multi-billion dollar company, a major sporting event or a large State. He had always balanced their budget, and it was always rising from a state of huge deficit. I trust Romney's excellent record. Therefore I'm voting Mitt Romney tomorrow.

What about the support for Patriot Act? NDAA? Foreign entangling and debasing of the currency? Anyone who wants to wipe out my constitutional protections, Obama included (resigned Patriot Act, NDAA, tons of Executive Orders), doesn't have my vote.

One thing at a time, the most important issue right now is that Obama has given you 6 trillion additional debt in 4 years, and Obama response to hitting the 16T debt ceiling is "we have always raised the debt ceiling when we hit it". Everything else is insignificant compared to the debt time bomb, just look at Greece.

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Oh, yeah. As we stare out of our jail cells, we can all take comfort that the country is at least debt-free.

I can't reform anything if I am criminalized or my constitutional rights rescinded. Civil liberties first, then worry about debasing of currency and systematic theft. IMO.

Sure we need to improve civil liberty, but any sane person should agree it's not that much of a pressing issue, this is not Soviet Russia/North Korea level of bad, this is just a little bad. You need to get your priorities straight. A economic disaster would affect your life much more than the existence of the Patriot Act. Ask the Greeks which would they prefer? their debt gone and economy back? or government wiretaps?

Once we solve the more pressing issues, then we can pick and choose candidates that are better for civil liberty.

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November 06, 2012, 12:51:16 AM
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Sure we need to improve civil liberty, but any sane person should agree it's not that much of a pressing issue, this is not Soviet Russia/North Korea level of bad, this is just a little bad. You need to get your priorities straight. A economic disaster would affect your life much more than the existence of the Patriot Act. Ask the Greeks which would they prefer? their debt gone and economy back? or illegal wiretaps?

I'll tell you what I would prefer. To be able to watch the value of my BTC rise relative to the dollar, rather than be imprisoned for having BTC. You're on an alt currency board. Economic crisis would probably help most people here. At the very least, it wouldn't hurt 'em. If you're worried about a Dollar crisis, put your money into BTC.

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November 06, 2012, 12:53:00 AM
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Looking at Romney's record, Every single organization he managed, be it a multi-billion dollar company, a major sporting event or a large State. He had always balanced their budget, and it was always rising from a state of huge deficit. I trust Romney's excellent record. Therefore I'm voting Mitt Romney tomorrow.

Great, this will be like hiring a former pimp to teach home economics to girls at the local middle school, based on his track record of success and fiscal discipline shown while he was engaged in pimping.

Hiring a seasoned expert with years of experience in gutting businesses and sending jobs overseas and flipping a profit in the process is great if you are a shareholder in a company he manages.  It's not great if your interests are in American workers and American jobs.  In that respect, it's like hiring the wolf to help rearchitect the hen house because of his experience "handling" small animals.

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November 06, 2012, 01:07:16 AM
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Looking at Romney's record, Every single organization he managed, be it a multi-billion dollar company, a major sporting event or a large State. He had always balanced their budget, and it was always rising from a state of huge deficit. I trust Romney's excellent record. Therefore I'm voting Mitt Romney tomorrow.

What about the support for Patriot Act? NDAA? Foreign entangling and debasing of the currency? Anyone who wants to wipe out my constitutional protections, Obama included (resigned Patriot Act, NDAA, tons of Executive Orders), doesn't have my vote.

One thing at a time, the most important issue right now is that Obama has given you 6 trillion additional debt in 4 years, and Obama response to hitting the 16T debt ceiling is "we have always raised the debt ceiling when we hit it". Everything else is insignificant compared to the debt time bomb, just look at Greece.

Pretty much this response:
Oh, yeah. As we stare out of our jail cells, we can all take comfort that the country is at least debt-free.

I can't reform anything if I am criminalized or my constitutional rights rescinded. Civil liberties first, then worry about debasing of currency and systematic theft. IMO.

Sure we need to improve civil liberty, but any sane person should agree it's not that much of a pressing issue, this is not Soviet Russia/North Korea level of bad, this is just a little bad. You need to get your priorities straight. A economic disaster would affect your life much more than the existence of the Patriot Act. Ask the Greeks which would they prefer? their debt gone and economy back? or government wiretaps?

I like to consider my self sane. I don't care if you are local or national, if you have signed such liberty eviscerating and unconstitutional legislation I will not vote for you. Goodbye candidate! To me, there are true colors to be shown. No one eliminating the constitution is to the citizen's benefit.

"Things", in my opinion, are much worse than you let on. I have been paying rapt attention since 9/11 and the speed of our civil deterioration is increasing as far as I am concerned. Not that we've been a shining star before 9/11, but post 9/11 government is dangerous in the United States. I don't care specifically about the condition of North Korea or Russia, however I disagree. The type of behavior we have seen (I'll reference recent behavior) is very close to something I would expect in a not so free country. We have had instances of delegates being stripped or replaced without due cause, turn away said delegates or attempt to "persuade" them not to vote, or to drive around committee members on a bus for an hour while holding an RNC rule change vote. Sounds fair doesn't it? Or a teleprompted vote on the floor that isn't legit, but pre determined? Sounds like a reasonable party to support.

Or not! I won't do it. I'm registered Republican and I'll be damned if I vote for Romney or Obama.

The crash of the dollar is coming whether you elect Romney or Obama, both of those will pave the path to fiscal and civil ruin as far as I am concerned. I have seen the massive evidence of Obama's desire when it comes to Federal authority, a step above the Bush years. Romney, like Obama, will enter (could enter) office with the same unchecked authority that already exists (if you contest this, I simply agree to disagree. Unconstitutional Federal Government is a no no for me) and therefore it comes down to intentions. I do not believe Romney or Obama has my intentions or interests at heart, plus the history of political stance, I can't vote for them.

To me a rogue government dropping constant illegal wiretaps without warrant, GPS surveillance, electronic aggregate surveillance with DHS fusion centers (not to mention the militarization of local police to the tune of hundreds of billions a year from the Feds in the form of weapons, armor, sometimes armored turret vehicles for smaller towns), these are serious threats. Generally I would agree to vote based on economic interest, but my economic interest is of no interest to me if I have no liberty. I see what they do with the technology they have had - the technology that is coming is downright Orwellian.

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November 06, 2012, 01:56:13 AM
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I'll tell you what I would prefer. To be able to watch the value of my BTC rise relative to the dollar, rather than be imprisoned for having BTC. You're on an alt currency board. Economic crisis would probably help most people here. At the very least, it wouldn't hurt 'em. If you're worried about a Dollar crisis, put your money into BTC.

How about your wage or salary?  Is it denominated in BTC?  If not, a decline of the currency you earn takes your earnings with it.  It's an invisible pay cut for you and everyone else similarly situated.  You'll have to demand a raise tomorrow just to be paid what you earned yesterday for the same work.

Companies claiming they got hacked and lost your coins sounds like fraud so perfect it could be called fashionable.  I never believe them.  If I ever experience the misfortune of a real intrusion, I declare I have been honest about the way I have managed the keys in Casascius Coins.  I maintain no ability to recover or reproduce the keys, not even under limitless duress or total intrusion.  Remember that trusting strangers with your coins without any recourse is, as a matter of principle, not a best practice.  Don't keep coins online. Use paper or hardware wallets instead.
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November 06, 2012, 02:22:36 AM
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I'll tell you what I would prefer. To be able to watch the value of my BTC rise relative to the dollar, rather than be imprisoned for having BTC. You're on an alt currency board. Economic crisis would probably help most people here. At the very least, it wouldn't hurt 'em. If you're worried about a Dollar crisis, put your money into BTC.

How about your wage or salary?  Is it denominated in BTC?  If not, a decline of the currency you earn takes your earnings with it.  It's an invisible pay cut for you and everyone else similarly situated.  You'll have to demand a raise tomorrow just to be paid what you earned yesterday for the same work.
That's an excellent point. Of course, money does you no good if you've been black-bagged and dragged off to gitmo, or if a drone drops a hellfire through your bedroom window, on no better reason than the President's say-so. And both major candidates have upheld the ability to do that.

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November 06, 2012, 02:39:37 AM
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What is a 16 trillion dollar debt compared to 900 trillion in weaponized rehypothecated financial instruments used to finance wars, destroy national economies (including the USA), and impoverish families? Neither of them is going to do anything about this. The way I see it, Obama will help the sick, old, and poor die with some comfort, but Romney will cause bloodshed in the streets by pushing the poor to outright insurgency and guerrilla warfare. There are a lot of pissed off veterans nowadays much like Timothy McVeigh.

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November 06, 2012, 03:22:23 AM
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tbh i think the united states is screwed again, bush for 8 years running shit down the drain, obama going back on everything he promissed
and then you lost ron paul.... probably the only person since jfk to make any sense...

but hey, most western countrys are turning in to police states on welfare...

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November 06, 2012, 04:10:00 AM
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Gary Johnson balanced the New Mexico budget without raising taxes and firing a single state worker, leaving a billion dollar surplus. Tomorrow, I won't be voting for the so-called "fiscal conservative" (who will have a bigger budget than Obama in the first year and won't balance the budget in his presidency), I will be voting for the budget magician who also cares about personal liberties and peaceful foreign policy.

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November 06, 2012, 04:19:06 AM
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I think we need Clinton back. Now that hes too old to get caught up in the "scandals" of his previous term, he can spend more time working on what he did right. Well, that is unless he has viagra...
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I think we need Clinton back. Now that hes too old to get caught up in the "scandals" of his previous term, he can spend more time working on what he did right. Well, that is unless he has viagra...
Ugh, no.  His policies enacted to back bad housing loans with government funds caused the housing bubble (and subsequent crash).  That's how it always is with the Dem's - looking at the surface, never seeing the consequences down the road.
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I think we need Clinton back. Now that hes too old to get caught up in the "scandals" of his previous term, he can spend more time working on what he did right. Well, that is unless he has viagra...
Ugh, no.  His policies enacted to back bad housing loans with government funds caused the housing bubble (and subsequent crash).  That's how it always is with the Dem's - looking at the surface, never seeing the consequences down the road.

Caught it before I did. Not to mention cruise missiles and entanglements.

But surely it isn't a Democratic problem , if anything the disease that festers in our government is bipartisan.  Just look at the "debates" between less than half of the people running. Media collusion creates a restricted environment for discourse intentionally, designed to propagate specific narratives in the political sphere.

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November 06, 2012, 05:14:36 AM
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Looking at Romney's record, Every single organization he managed, be it a multi-billion dollar company, a major sporting event or a large State. He had always balanced their budget, and it was always rising from a state of huge deficit. I trust Romney's excellent record. Therefore I'm voting Mitt Romney tomorrow.

So what is his plan? I see no way out that anyone will like. Plus balancing the budget isn't even the president's job.
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November 06, 2012, 05:17:07 AM
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Gary Johnson balanced the New Mexico budget without raising taxes and firing a single state worker, leaving a billion dollar surplus. Tomorrow, I won't be voting for the so-called "fiscal conservative" (who will have a bigger budget than Obama in the first year and won't balance the budget in his presidency), I will be voting for the budget magician who also cares about personal liberties and peaceful foreign policy.

This may be the smartest thing I've ever seen from you.  Wink

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Great, this will be like hiring a former pimp to teach home economics to girls at the local middle school, based on his track record of success and fiscal discipline shown while he was engaged in pimping.


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November 06, 2012, 06:35:40 AM
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Being a successful business man means nothing with regard to being President.

Grasp this fact: businesses are small entities within a much larger context. The United States is, essentially, the context.

Let me say it in a different way. Businesses operate within an interior space, and can always find more in the much larger exterior space outside. A large nation is the exterior space, and can't necessarily find an even larger exterior space to draw from. Granted, you might analogize other nations to being the even larger exterior space, and even outer space, but these boundaries and walls are much more difficult to scale.

I can honestly say that Romney doesn't know all that he should. Nor does Obama, but at least he knows how to tap into the resources of intelligent people. I don't believe Romney would choose intelligent people, except for the way he sees things from his narrow vision of how things work.
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You're fucking retarded.

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Mitt Romney like most politicians is a backstabbing and back talking cunt that reminds me of a lot of people in school I used to know, hard to believe people would vote for such a moron, they say nice things to your face but the moment they get what they want they'll screw you over and the two party system is full of those types.
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I can honestly say that Romney doesn't know all that he should. Nor does Obama, but at least he knows how to tap into the resources of intelligent people.

Who are you referring to? John "Forced Vasectomy" Holdren?
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November 06, 2012, 02:33:36 PM
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He had always balanced their budget

You may want to investigate how much of that budget balancing he vetoed and was subsequently overridden on.
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November 06, 2012, 04:34:47 PM
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You're fucking retarded.

I've never heard of you but I just reviewed your posts from the entire year. Essentially, I didn't see a single post greater than a sentence long, nor did I see anything resembling intelligent discourse.
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You're fucking retarded.

I've never heard of you but I just reviewed your posts from the entire year. Essentially, I didn't see a single post greater than a sentence long, nor did I see anything resembling intelligent discourse.

"Brevity is the soul of wit"

And he hit the nail on the head with this one. How much time did you waste going through a full years worth of posts from the dude, when you could have just smacked that ignore button and went on with your life? You'll never get that time back, you know.

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You're fucking retarded.

I've never heard of you but I just reviewed your posts from the entire year. Essentially, I didn't see a single post greater than a sentence long, nor did I see anything resembling intelligent discourse.

"Brevity is the soul of wit"

And he hit the nail on the head with this one. How much time did you waste going through a full years worth of posts from the dude, when you could have just smacked that ignore button and went on with your life? You'll never get that time back, you know.

I spent about 90 seconds. Vacuous commentary doesn't take long to peruse. As for hitting the nail on the head, consider:

- You suspected the Colorado shooting was faked, indicating lack of critical thinking on your part.
- You like to argue nonsensical self contradictory circles about your pet crackpot theories to no end.
- You like to stalk me in other threads.
- You've continuously demanded that I educate you about ecology, yet claim you know everything you need to know.
- Despite your demands that I educate you, you imply I'm fucking retarded right here. Touche. It is recorded in another thread in which you were stalking me that I called you a fucking retard.
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This gay republican voted for the black guy - again.   Grin

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This gay republican voted for the black guy - again.   Grin

Time to lay off the meth?

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You're fucking retarded.

I've never heard of you but I just reviewed your posts from the entire year. Essentially, I didn't see a single post greater than a sentence long, nor did I see anything resembling intelligent discourse.

"Brevity is the soul of wit"

And he hit the nail on the head with this one. How much time did you waste going through a full years worth of posts from the dude, when you could have just smacked that ignore button and went on with your life? You'll never get that time back, you know.

I spent about 90 seconds. Vacuous commentary doesn't take long to peruse.

90 seconds? You couldn't have paged through a year's worth of posts in that much time. As for your love note, I'm touched, but you're wandering off-topic. Maybe start another one for bashing me, that you could later get bored with and abandon?

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November 06, 2012, 06:57:20 PM
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Obama: Raised much of his campaign funds from Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo, JP Morgan Chase, and supported the bank bailout
Romney: Top 6 financial supporters are all big banks: JP Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, Citigroup, Credit Suisse Group, Bank of America and Goldman Sachs. Supported the bank bailout.

Obama: Passed socialized health care otherwise known as ObamaCare
Romney: Passed socialized health care otherwise known as RomneyCare which was the blueprint for ObamaCare

Obama: Spending increased while in office (19%)
Romney: Spending increased while in office (24%)

Obama: Ramped up the war in Afghanistan
Romney: Supports the war in Afghanistan, wanted us to stay in Iraq

Obama: Supports abortion
Romney: Supported abortion until he started running for president as a Republican

Obama: Supports same sex marriage
Romney: As Massachusetts governor, he implemented same-sex marriage by executive fiat

Obama: anti-gun rights
Romney: Given a D- by Gun Owners of America

Obama: signed into law the NDAA (allows military to arrest US citizens without a warrant, trial or lawyer) also allows Internet censorship
Romney: during one of the debates said he would have signed Obama's NDAA law

Obama: Opposed Bush's tax cuts
Romney: Opposed Bush's tax cuts

Obama: Campaigned on "Cap and Tax" to fight global warming (a tax on carbon producing companies)
Romney: Supported "Cap and Tax" as a way to fight global warming saying it would be "good for business"

It comes down to a vote between Obama for 4 more years or Obama's policies for 8 more years.

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November 06, 2012, 06:59:09 PM
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It comes down to a vote between Obama for 4 more years or Obama's policies for 8 more years.
Now there's an interesting way of putting it...
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November 06, 2012, 07:43:33 PM
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This gay republican voted for the black guy - again.   Grin
Time to lay off the meth?
unlike evangelical christian ministers, I never use that crap. 

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This gay republican voted for the black guy - again.   Grin
Time to lay off the meth?
unlike evangelical christian ministers, I never use that crap. 
Bad for business to dip into your stock? Wink

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This gay republican voted for the black guy - again.   Grin
Time to lay off the meth?
unlike evangelical christian ministers, I never use that crap. 
Bad for business to dip into your stock? Wink
On many levels.   Wink

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November 06, 2012, 10:24:19 PM
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This gay republican voted for the black guy - again.   Grin

While you may be joking.....  Most gay people I know are fiscally conservative socially liberal and end up voting dem.  The problem is that the last fiscally conservative president we had was Bill Clinton.  Neither party is fiscally conservative now, so the choice really ends up being for the socially liberal side. 

A shame, because core republican values of government out of peoples private lives SHOULD translate into equality for gays. 

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November 06, 2012, 10:38:32 PM
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...Most gay people I know are fiscally conservative socially liberal and end up voting dem...

Most people in general, fall for the media shilling from one side or another. They are not immune.

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November 06, 2012, 10:44:52 PM
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A shame, because core republican values of government out of peoples private lives SHOULD translate into equality for gays. 

Their repressed homoerotic love for Jesus sends them screaming the other way, though.

If we can just get Republicans to see that smoking a joint doesn't kill people, and Democrats to see that you don't need to use a gun to be compassionate, Libertarians would win every election.

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November 07, 2012, 05:15:03 AM
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You're fucking retarded.

I've never heard of you but I just reviewed your posts from the entire year. Essentially, I didn't see a single post greater than a sentence long, nor did I see anything resembling intelligent discourse.
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Obummer was elected...  :\
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November 07, 2012, 05:33:36 AM
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You're fucking retarded.

I've never heard of you but I just reviewed your posts from the entire year. Essentially, I didn't see a single post greater than a sentence long, nor did I see anything resembling intelligent discourse.
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November 07, 2012, 01:43:13 PM
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Obummer was elected...  :\

Maybe next time the republicans will put forth a true fiscal conservative with real ideas that have a chance of working.  I am not saying Obama's plans are going to balance the budget, but they are more likely to then Romney's. 

The last time the budget was balanced was under Clinton with 39% upper tax rate.  This plus real cutting can bring us to a balanced budget and that was off the table for Romney.

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The last time the budget was balanced was under Clinton with 39% upper tax rate.  This plus real cutting can bring us to a balanced budget and that was off the table for Romney.

The budget was only balanced via number twiddling.  The debt continued to rise.  He got close (and the rate of growth dropped nicely), but not quite.  Continuing on his/congress' policies would have brought it to a balance within another year or two.
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Obummer was elected...  :\

Maybe next time the republicans will put forth a true fiscal conservative with real ideas that have a chance of working.  I am not saying Obama's plans are going to balance the budget, but they are more likely to then Romney's.  

The last time the budget was balanced was under Clinton with 39% upper tax rate.  This plus real cutting can bring us to a balanced budget and that was off the table for Romney.

You believe too much what they say, but not look enough at what they actually did. No campaigning candidate will declare "I will raise fucking taxes on you". Please research into what Mitt Romney did while being Governor of MA, you'll see he is a true fiscal conservative, and he balanced MA's budget, which his predecessors and successor has failed to do so.

Barrack Obama don't even know what a balanced budget look like, since he never had to manage anything of importance, before becoming POTUS. It's a joke.

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November 07, 2012, 02:24:36 PM
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...he balanced MA's budget...

Balancing a budget (or reducing the budget deficit) is different than reducing spending.

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...he balanced MA's budget...

Balancing a budget (or reducing the budget deficit) is different than reducing spending.

Significant reduction in spending will never get passed, no interest group will allow reduction, at most they will accept unchanged spending, which is mostly what happened at MA. He's not a dictator, all he can do is work with what can be done, instead of trying what is impossible.

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Obummer was elected...  :\

Hail to thee! Once more, wisdom of the books (even digital ones) prevails over plain old pigeonholing!



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November 07, 2012, 03:56:35 PM
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Significant reduction in spending will never get passed, no interest group will allow reduction, at most they will accept unchanged spending, which is mostly what happened at MA. He's not a dictator, all he can do is work with what can be done, instead of trying what is impossible.

Sounds like it's time to hyperinflate the budget down, and our debt away.

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Significant reduction in spending will never get passed, no interest group will allow reduction, at most they will accept unchanged spending, which is mostly what happened at MA. He's not a dictator, all he can do is work with what can be done, instead of trying what is impossible.

Sounds like it's time to hyperinflate the budget down, and our debt away.

Fire up the presses!

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