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October 31, 2015, 02:39:46 PM
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Well it does not look like an art piece but that's not that much important.
Art's purpose is to stimulate. It does not need to be likeable.

Well, you could have a dump on a piece of cardboard and present that as art. It would stimulate people for sure but I´m not sure about the purpose of that stimulation. I doubt that it´d elevate the spirit much.

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October 31, 2015, 02:40:47 PM
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Julian Beever is another genius in this field. Here being rescued by Batman and Robin.



So great do you haveany links  to that kind of  art,if yes  can you post

 
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October 31, 2015, 02:54:42 PM
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Well it does not look like an art piece but that's not that much important.
Art's purpose is to stimulate. It does not need to be likeable.

Well, you could have a dump on a piece of cardboard and present that as art. It would stimulate people for sure but I´m not sure about the purpose of that stimulation. I doubt that it´d elevate the spirit much.
I understand what you mean but yeah it is even true for dump. You don't even need to present it as art.
Art may irritate, it is new so-called modern art is like that. Purpose becomes irritation so.
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October 31, 2015, 03:11:12 PM
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Well Pab, i was admiring this stuff years ago and had forgotten about it but it somehow came to mind when I saw that rubbish. Must have been subliminally searching for the 180 degrees opposite as artistic talent, quality and quantity of work is concerned.

So, I searched for 3d street art on YT

Best of 3D Street Art Illusion - Episode 1 - HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8tngtNgXl4

Ep.2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6IVFeD2jz8

3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efRBegMr6GE

and to 8 I think

Google the same

http://www.3d-street-art.com/

http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/absolutely-stunning-3d-street-art-paintings/

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October 31, 2015, 03:25:33 PM
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Well it does not look like an art piece but that's not that much important.
Art's purpose is to stimulate. It does not need to be likeable.

Well, you could have a dump on a piece of cardboard and present that as art. It would stimulate people for sure but I´m not sure about the purpose of that stimulation. I doubt that it´d elevate the spirit much.
I understand what you mean but yeah it is even true for dump. You don't even need to present it as art.
Art may irritate, it is new so-called modern art is like that. Purpose becomes irritation so.

Yes, but there is an important distinction to make here: for me, at least, the source of the irritation isn't the "dump" itself, and whatever feelings it may inspire (that is, the message the "artist" meant to transmit); the source of the irritation is the misguided notion that the "dump" is art (that the "artist" was unable to find an intelligent way to convey the message - you know, something that couldn't be replicated just as effectively by a chimp).
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October 31, 2015, 03:27:21 PM
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Well it does not look like an art piece but that's not that much important.
Art's purpose is to stimulate. It does not need to be likeable.

Well, you could have a dump on a piece of cardboard and present that as art. It would stimulate people for sure but I´m not sure about the purpose of that stimulation. I doubt that it´d elevate the spirit much.
I understand what you mean but yeah it is even true for dump. You don't even need to present it as art.
Art may irritate, it is new so-called modern art is like that. Purpose becomes irritation so.

Yes, and this is certainly an angle worth considering:

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To be fair, the museum’s cleaners were presented with a genuine conceptual challenge. They were told to clean up after an evening event – get rid of the empty wine bottles, that sort of thing. Goldschmied and Chiari’s exhibition, a comment on the corruption of 1980s Italy that tried to evoke the decadence portrayed in Paolo Sorrentino’s film Il Divo about that same era, was a careful recreation of the aftermath of a party with lots of empty wine bottles everywhere. You can see how the confusion arose.

Yet, far from being a condemnation of contemporary art, this habit cleaners have of mistaking it for rubbish is proof of its enduring vitality, or at least, indestructible novelty. Artists have been bringing rubbish, the stuff of everyday life that we use and throw away, into the gallery for more than a century now – ever since Picasso stuck bits of newspaper and chair caning to his paintings.

 Cleaners have presumably been throwing it away for more than 100 years, too. Most of the first readymades have vanished – modern icons such as Marcel Duchamp’s urinal, bicycle wheel, bottle rack and snow shovel were lost long ago and had to be remade in the 1960s. Were the originals simply chucked in the bin?

This art has been around for so long that, by rights, it ought to have become safe and cosy. In many ways it has. Visitors to Tate Modern stare respectfully at garden shrubberies or Duchamp’s (remade) pissoir. But still, the cleaners keep chucking stuff away – cussed working-class critics of modern art who are the last bastions of criticism now that Brian Sewell has gone.

Museums and artists don’t really mind. In Bolzano, they will just open another bottle. And why? Because as long as someone thinks modern art is rubbish, it is still provocative. It is still dangerous. Never mind that it sells for millions, and is enshrined with religious fervour in the world’s most powerful museums. Contemporary art may have all the hallmarks of establishment culture, but it is still Challenging, Subversive and Radical. It must be. The cleaners are still throwing it away.

http://www.theguardian.com/global/shortcuts/2015/oct/27/modern-art-is-rubbish-why-mistaking-artworks-for-trash-proves-their-worth

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October 31, 2015, 03:46:39 PM
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Well Pab, i was admiring this stuff years ago and had forgotten about it but it somehow came to mind when I saw that rubbish. Must have been subliminally searching for the 180 degrees opposite as artistic talent, quality and quantity of work is concerned.

So, I searched for 3d street art on YT

Best of 3D Street Art Illusion - Episode 1 - HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8tngtNgXl4

Ep.2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6IVFeD2jz8

3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efRBegMr6GE

Google the same

http://www.3d-street-art.com/

http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/absolutely-stunning-3d-street-art-paintings/

Et cetera.







Many thanks it is crazy wonderful,yet another 3d technology example,love3d

 
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October 31, 2015, 03:57:46 PM
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Art or junk?


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October 31, 2015, 04:03:37 PM
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Art or junk?


Everything is poetry,like one of our great Polish poet was saying,but it is kind of spiritual path

 
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October 31, 2015, 04:03:45 PM
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It´s art. And it fetched like 2.5 million British pounds in an auction last year.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2889396/Did-Tracey-Emin-sleep-2-5m-bed-Art-expert-claims-significant-discrepancies-different-exhibitions-display.html

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Van Gogh has die ill in poverty,now his paintings are worth mln dollars,finally what is art, dollars or people creativity

 
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November 01, 2015, 12:24:42 PM
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You people just don't get art. Art doesn't have to be stuffy old watercolors of borng landscapes to be art. Art is about human expression and understanding. Something that you right wing spawn don't understand.

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Crap In A Can



Italian artist Piero Manzoni craps in a can. Not in THE can, A can… 90 cans to be exact, and he did this in 1961 with the intention that each signed and numbered can of crap be sold for its weight in gold. As get-rich-schemes go, Manzoni’s was a trifle ambitious but the artist ended up getting the last laugh: a tin auctioned by Sotheby’s on May 23rd, 2007 sold for €124,000 and in October of 2008, the respected auction house offered tin #83 with an estimated selling price of £50-70,000. Dammit Mom, why’d ya hafta throw away my poop can collection??



Manzoni’s infamous cans were labeled in Italian, English, French and German with the English text reading “Artist’s Shit, contents 30gr net freshly preserved, produced and tinned in May 1961”. Though persistent rumors hinted that the cans were filled not with excrement but instead, plaster, the veracity of Manzoni’s labeling was proven when a can on loan to the Randers Museum of Art recently began to leak. According to a bacteriological expert called in by the museum’s curators, “the feces wanted out”... we’re guessing any visitors to the museum that day concurred mightily.

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November 01, 2015, 01:30:58 PM
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I used to feel modern art paintings are a farce.
At least the effort that goes into making a painting is more than what it takes to arrange a few empty bottles.
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November 03, 2015, 10:37:46 AM
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Lol not suprised, by the looks of that picture I would think that it was rubbish as well. Looks like the day after a night of a nice party
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November 03, 2015, 12:49:17 PM
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Julian Beever is another genius in this field. Here being rescued by Batman and Robin.



So great do you haveany links  to that kind of  art,if yes  can you post
That is really really cool man.
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November 24, 2015, 12:04:34 AM
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Performance Art Robot Drinks Coke Until It Dies

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This robot is trying to make some kind of statement about soda being bad for you. It made us very sad to watch. But we're probably going to keep eating garbage.

MORE GROSS: Making a Victorian-era condom

https://digg.com/video/coke-robot-kills-itself

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November 24, 2015, 01:05:29 AM
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If those Italians are serious buyers, i can sell them great deal of modern art almost every Sunday after party at local pub. I prefer Bitcoins but cash is also more than welcome.



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November 24, 2015, 06:05:29 AM
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Art needs context to be considered art, imho. The scene in the original post isn't art, unless it's part of a show that's illustrating more than just champagne bottles on the ground. Without context the meaning is lost and while the artist may think it's brilliant, it's really the opinion of the viewers that matter, that deem art's value.
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November 24, 2015, 06:20:48 AM
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That art looks like shit is why.. I used to throw raves and events and such and that is basically the shit the help had to clean up at the end of the night.

I honestly don't think that's much of an art project.. if anything looks like a hangover and a half to be had..

I guess these art nuts do get off on circlejerking otherwise garbage into works of art... I know I sure do!

You wanna see some REAL modern art? I know you do... Wink

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Please enjoy this modern art.

You can also order them online on my shop. If there is any interest PM me and i'll get you a link to it. Smiley


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