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November 01, 2015, 09:52:10 PM
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On Saturday, a Russian passenger plane (Airbus A-321-200) carrying 217 passengers including 25 children blew-up in air 23 minutes after taking off from resort city of Sharm el-Sheikh for St. Petersburg in Russia. Everyone on board including seven crew-members died.

The plane is operated by Russian Metrojet. Its website identified the pilot, captain Valery Nemov with excellent flying record of 12000 hours. It also said that the aircraft was in good shape.

The Egyptian government of military dictator Gen. Sisi has called the accident a result of “crashed landing” due to some technical problems.

Now, here why I smell some rotten eggs in this story; 1) Gen. Sisi is a Crypto Jew and very popular within Israeli regime, 2) Israel has offered its “help” to investigate (remove any evidence of Mossad involvement as it did France, Argentina, Spain, Kenya, the US, UK, Turkey, etc. in the past) the accident, 3) US-Israel’s baby ISIS has taken credit for shooting the plane to revenge Russian airstrikes in Syria against anti-Assad rebels, 4) Egyptian Sinai Peninsula which borders Israel, was occupied by Israel for nearly two decades, 5) Egypt has welcomed Russian military involvement in Syria claiming that would root-out Salaafi/Wahabi terrorism, 6) Israeli poodle governments in Bonn and Paris have banned commercial flights over Sinai Peninsula, and 7) Rita Katz, the Jewish ‘video expert’ has already released a video in support of ISIS claim.

Russian Transport Ministry officials have rejected ISIS claim saying that “plane at 31K feet is outside MANPAD range”.

Mokhtar Awad, an analyst with the Center for American Progress, has also rejected ISIS claim – calling it “quite vague”. The Washington-based group was founded by Bill Clinton’s deputy chief of staff, John Podesta (Jewish) in 2003.

Lt. Col. Stephen Avery, who had piloted Airbus 321 in the past, has also rejected IS claim in the video. He says that Airbus 321 doesn’t have the power to reach 31,000 feet range.

I’m surprised the Egypt, Israel and United States have not awarded the honor of planting a bomb inside the plane to anti-Israel Muslim Brotherhood that supported Mufti al-Husseini against Jew settlers.

The shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missile MANPAD has a maximum range of 1500 feet. The question is who provided the IS those missiles other than the US or Israel?

Based on the above facts, I believe it was a warning to Putin to get the hell out of Syria by USrael.





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November 01, 2015, 10:01:10 PM
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Quite possible.You can't rule out any possibility for the region in question is valuable to all parties involved.Russia,US,Israel etc all have their interests and this could lead to a major war in region

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November 01, 2015, 10:10:29 PM
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Umm... I heard that the pilot of the plane had told the dispatcher that plane's having some technical problems as soon as they departured from the airport. He said they'll land on the next possible airport, just.. didn't succeed.

 
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November 01, 2015, 10:12:23 PM
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I think that the crash was not because any military action . it is an accident that may happen with any plane
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November 02, 2015, 03:32:36 AM
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This could just be a regular crash without any foul play. But hey who knows, we will probably never know otherwise  Undecided
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November 02, 2015, 03:56:22 AM
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Well I was reading maybe month ago about senator John Mccain and he said he would arm isis and give them the weapons to bring down Russian planes!

 http://www.infowars.com/mccain-arm-syrian-rebels-to-shoot-down-russian-planes/][url]http://www.infowars.com/mccain-arm-syrian-rebels-to-shoot-down-russian-planes/[/url]

 It`s just crazy what is happening there, for me this easily can be truth they showed allready that they wish to go in war with everyone. I saw somewhere they earning more then 50 millions per month just from oil so to whom they sell it, who give them guns, who are their allies... Or maybe they just brag about it? It`s very hard to see what is real in all that mess, I`m sorry for innocent people get`s hurt.
May all those passangers from plane rest in peace.




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November 02, 2015, 04:04:25 AM
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if its an organized terrorist they would not just target any plane without a high rank personnel it that plane. but i presume this is just an act as start of something far more worst.Sad

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November 02, 2015, 06:02:26 AM
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Well, since the bodies and debris was scattered over a wide area, (3 by 5 miles or so) the plane must have come apart up in the air I guess.


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November 02, 2015, 07:42:59 AM
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@catch.me.if.you.can doubt israel or america did it. Too great a risk of the situation escalating. And a lot of that speculation doesn't make sense. More likely isis got someone on board with explosives.

This could just be a regular crash without any foul play. But hey who knows, we will probably never know otherwise  Undecided

The black box was already recovered. And debris was collected and is going to be analyzed. So the causes will probably be known soon. But it doesn't look like it was an accident because of the way the plane broke in two in mid air.
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November 02, 2015, 08:13:52 AM
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no, the jews might be evil but they are too clever to do something like that, there is no way they'd risk the russian response

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November 02, 2015, 11:02:07 AM
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Could be possible, but who knows, you'll only get to see what they show you
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November 02, 2015, 12:12:29 PM
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I don't think it was done by Israel. It was probably technical issue.
So there is no reason to be paranoid.
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November 02, 2015, 12:27:07 PM
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Russians could just blow themselves up just to plot it. they've been meaning to go war with these region. It sure a good way to simply have access to ground zero and so they'll have reason to go war.

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November 02, 2015, 12:32:03 PM
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Russians could just blow themselves up just to plot it. they've been meaning to go war with these region. It sure a good way to simply have access to ground zero and so they'll have reason to go war.
Lol, plot to start a war which already has been started more than month ago. Sorry, sir, but are an idiot.

Besidea that, only cowards like US need a "reason" to go war. It can be seen in history, that country like Russia wouldn't care about excuses.
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November 02, 2015, 12:38:54 PM
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Russians could just blow themselves up just to plot it. they've been meaning to go war with these region. It sure a good way to simply have access to ground zero and so they'll have reason to go war.
Lol, plot to start a war which already started month ago. You, sir, are an idiot.

Really?
Never really watch TV news these days. then its no surprise if they just blow each other then.

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November 02, 2015, 01:21:58 PM
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This was most probably a technical failure - the plane was an old machine, which already sustained damage to its tail part during its service. Most probably a case of a budget airline being too "budget".

Too early to say and to place the blame. Give it a month (not a year, like in MH-17 case!) to decode the recorders and to analyse the evidence.

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November 02, 2015, 03:08:31 PM
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I think that the crash was not because any military action . it is an accident that may happen with any plane
i think you need to check out this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2i2GIpX5ec

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November 02, 2015, 04:29:44 PM
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I don´t doubt that Insane McCain and other nutcases sent those terrorist lunatics Stinger missiles, manpads or whatever is used against low flying aircraft. But to shoot down a plane 30,000 feet up you need much more sophisticated and powerful equipment. And personnel trained and qualified to operate it.

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November 02, 2015, 06:47:12 PM
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I don´t doubt that Insane McCain and other nutcases sent those terrorist lunatics Stinger missiles, manpads or whatever is used against low flying aircraft. But to shoot down a plane 30,000 feet up you need much more sophisticated and powerful equipment. And personnel trained and qualified to operate it.

Either a very sophisticated ground to air system, radar tracking the target and guiding the rocket, which is a big rocket, or an attack aircraft, or a malicious item placed on board.

There is no reason to suspect anything other that structural failure until evidence shows otherwise.  Could have been a tail falling off, part of the fuselage coming off in an explosive decompression.

If as mentioned the pilot SAID they had mechanical trouble and he was going to land, that rules....
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November 02, 2015, 07:42:33 PM
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I don´t doubt that Insane McCain and other nutcases sent those terrorist lunatics Stinger missiles, manpads or whatever is used against low flying aircraft. But to shoot down a plane 30,000 feet up you need much more sophisticated and powerful equipment. And personnel trained and qualified to operate it.

Either a very sophisticated ground to air system, radar tracking the target and guiding the rocket, which is a big rocket, or an attack aircraft, or a malicious item placed on board.

There is no reason to suspect anything other that structural failure until evidence shows otherwise.  Could have been a tail falling off, part of the fuselage coming off in an explosive decompression.

If as mentioned the pilot SAID they had mechanical trouble and he was going to land, that rules....

The tail section seems to have split off in flight. If it was due to explosives they´ll presumably find residue of that.

The black boxes are in good shape. They need time to investigate this, that´s all for now.

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