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November 02, 2015, 05:01:42 AM
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Hey guys this is my first post here. Nice little forum here. I got into bit coins a couple years ago in order to buy stuff online.
Anyways I use to bet sports with a couple guys on Facebook a while back, but i closed my account so it seems like bitcoin betting is the next best thing.
I just have a couple questions, how is it legal? Its because the currency is in bit coins instead of $ right?
Also do you guys trust these sites with your bit coins? Cant they just take them away, if you have a lot and its technically illegal so theres nothing you can do about? In the past i was betting on a site and it suddenly just shut down, i forgot what it was called and also have a bad experience with nitrogensports.eu i believe where i just did not get my coins back.

Anyways just interested in peoples general opinion if they think these sites are 100% safe and something I can trust with large amounts of coins! If so Im looking forward to betting again! completely forgot about these bit coins sites!
Also what site do you guys use to withdrawal/store your bit coins? I use virwox.com and then from there deposit them back into my paypal account..  is this a trusted site to use? Or a good method? And currently using cloud bet.
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November 02, 2015, 05:17:49 AM
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I personally use directbet.eu to do all my sports betting and they dont hold anything except any of my current bets. They take the bet and once the event you bet on is over they return your money very soon after.

As far as virwox goes theyre safe but the fee is ridiculous. You should look around n try to find an alternative method to selling your btc.

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November 02, 2015, 05:26:26 AM
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Don't trust any site to hold the bitcoin for you except you are controlling the bitcoin yourself. There are some legit websites for gamble, which are on chain  betting, try this one http://luckyb.it/. You are sending the betting amount of btc to the specific address and instantly you will get back your wagers in your wallet.
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November 02, 2015, 05:38:46 AM
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Why are you obsessed with gambling? Bitcoin has a lot of legit usages.
You have a lot to learn to use bitcoin safely, like choosing wallet, buying and spending btc etc.
Just google it and you will find a lot of infomation.

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November 02, 2015, 04:06:58 PM
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Why are you obsessed with gambling? Bitcoin has a lot of legit usages.
You have a lot to learn to use bitcoin safely, like choosing wallet, buying and spending btc etc.
Just google it and you will find a lot of infomation.

Why do you think I'm obsessed with it? This is the gambling forum ya know. Like what usages? please explain, Im not sure what I would be looking for on google.
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November 02, 2015, 04:11:26 PM
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Most Bitcoin online gambling sites do not have a license and can be illegal depending on your jurisdiction. Many sites have already blocked US players. Trusting gambling sites isn't easy, it does take some time for them to build their reputation. Virwox is pretty legit but they have high fees since you have to convert it to SLL then to USD. Try going to the currency exchange section here and deal with trusted people. Always use escrow and don't go for newbies or people with negative trust.

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November 02, 2015, 05:05:46 PM
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1. Bitcoin gambling is not more or less 'legal' than any FIAT based service. You can gamble as much as you want. As long as it is in agreement with your local law.
2. If you chose right Bitcoin Casino there is no very little change that they will scam you or run away with your money. You see, it is more profitable to be reputable casino and earn in a long term.
3. I never heard of virvox.com - but if you keep your fund in online storage for long there is always a risk. Avoid doing that with large sum of money.
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November 02, 2015, 05:18:14 PM
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1. Bitcoin gambling is not more or less 'legal' than any FIAT based service. You can gamble as much as you want. As long as it is in agreement with your local law.
2. If you chose right Bitcoin Casino there is no very little change that they will scam you or run away with your money. You see, it is more profitable to be reputable casino and earn in a long term.
3. I never heard of virvox.com - but if you keep your fund in online storage for long there is always a risk. Avoid doing that with large sum of money.
Ok thanks, I never keep a real lot in there as I always try and transfer it back into my paypal and vice versa.
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November 02, 2015, 05:20:19 PM
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If you are interesting to get suggestion about sports betting sites than i will suggest you directbet.eu without any doubt it is legit and trusted sportsbook and you don't need to have any account for place bets on sports event totally anonymous and secure.
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November 02, 2015, 05:22:01 PM
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The legal question depend where you live. For example, in italy, all gambling site without an italian license, is illegal and the domain is obscurated, already if the site have european license, the italian player can't bet (but is only for tax question).
virvox for now is the only method for paypal (or you can see any members of forum sell bitcoin for paypal, but is very hard)
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November 02, 2015, 05:37:30 PM
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 It is the same like in a case of fiat money,very limited trust,and dont leave your funds on casino
At least it is much better becouse of transaction fee
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November 02, 2015, 05:40:28 PM
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If you are interesting to get suggestion about sports betting sites than i will suggest you directbet.eu without any doubt it is legit and trusted sportsbook and you don't need to have any account for place bets on sports event totally anonymous and secure.
ok I might check it out since thats the second suggestion for that site. Also it wouldnt hurt to use 2 sites to bet with just to store my coins in different sites. Feel like that might be the safer option.  thanks.
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November 02, 2015, 05:49:38 PM
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If you are interesting to get suggestion about sports betting sites than i will suggest you directbet.eu without any doubt it is legit and trusted sportsbook and you don't need to have any account for place bets on sports event totally anonymous and secure.
ok I might check it out since thats the second suggestion for that site. Also it wouldnt hurt to use 2 sites to bet with just to store my coins in different sites. Feel like that might be the safer option.  thanks.
IF you want to bet more on sport event, you need to know that there are couple interesting bitcoin Sports book available.

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2.  Nitrogensports
3.  Cloudbet
4.  Betcoinsports
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But here you have good idea of some of them:
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November 02, 2015, 05:53:58 PM
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If you are interesting to get suggestion about sports betting sites than i will suggest you directbet.eu without any doubt it is legit and trusted sportsbook and you don't need to have any account for place bets on sports event totally anonymous and secure.
ok I might check it out since thats the second suggestion for that site. Also it wouldnt hurt to use 2 sites to bet with just to store my coins in different sites. Feel like that might be the safer option.  thanks.
IF you want to bet more on sport event, you need to know that there are couple interesting bitcoin Sports book available.

1.  Anonibet
2.  Nitrogensports
3.  Cloudbet
4.  Betcoinsports
5. Directbet

But here you have good idea of some of them:
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtMaJ0sX.jpg&t=558&c=dV6_sjGdvbl5Tg
thanks man, ill find another one eventually. So many options, i don't even see directbet.eu on there.
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November 02, 2015, 07:27:35 PM
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You need to make your way around.This field is full of scammer so knowledge upto the mark and analyzing stuff before blindly trusting in it is much needed before making a wallet or betting.I use directbet and blockchain for everything.Recently blockchain has multiple issues but nothing to worry the're just getting better.
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November 02, 2015, 11:37:42 PM
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Why are you obsessed with gambling? Bitcoin has a lot of legit usages.
You have a lot to learn to use bitcoin safely, like choosing wallet, buying and spending btc etc.
Just google it and you will find a lot of infomation.

Why do you think I'm obsessed with it? This is the gambling forum ya know. Like what usages? please explain, Im not sure what I would be looking for on google.

well, he is trying to suggest to you dont keep ur bitcoin on an exchange platform, there has been a case where the exchange lose over 100,000 of bitcoins and those customers till now cant get back their bitcoins. so imagine u have over 10 or even 100 of bitcoins in a bank and this bank closed down due to some fault and u cant get ur $ back. even government also cant do anything.

so suggestion to u is that keep it in an offline wallet in your harddisk and do all the coding and double coding etc so even if ur comp got hack, they still cant access to ur wallets cause there is like 3 to 4 layers of password.
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November 03, 2015, 12:24:55 AM
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Why are you obsessed with gambling? Bitcoin has a lot of legit usages.
You have a lot to learn to use bitcoin safely, like choosing wallet, buying and spending btc etc.
Just google it and you will find a lot of infomation.

Why do you think I'm obsessed with it? This is the gambling forum ya know. Like what usages? please explain, Im not sure what I would be looking for on google.

well, he is trying to suggest to you dont keep ur bitcoin on an exchange platform, there has been a case where the exchange lose over 100,000 of bitcoins and those customers till now cant get back their bitcoins. so imagine u have over 10 or even 100 of bitcoins in a bank and this bank closed down due to some fault and u cant get ur $ back. even government also cant do anything.

so suggestion to u is that keep it in an offline wallet in your harddisk and do all the coding and double coding etc so even if ur comp got hack, they still cant access to ur wallets cause there is like 3 to 4 layers of password.
that seems like a lot of work, i think it will be fine if i keep withdrawing the coins into my paypal, like every $500, so im not leaving to much $(bitcoins) in virwox at one time. Also virwox is the only site that accepts paypal, which is my only form of payment right now. Thanks for your help.
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November 03, 2015, 04:08:49 AM
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If you are interesting to get suggestion about sports betting sites than i will suggest you directbet.eu without any doubt it is legit and trusted sportsbook and you don't need to have any account for place bets on sports event totally anonymous and secure.
ok I might check it out since thats the second suggestion for that site. Also it wouldnt hurt to use 2 sites to bet with just to store my coins in different sites. Feel like that might be the safer option.  thanks.

yes directbet site is quite reliable site for sports betting but some people says their odds are not that much attractive but for me they are quite good mainly because their fast confirmation on bets and always pays back winnings on time without any delay. They are quit professional so I can suggest you to try them if your planning for sports betting.
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November 03, 2015, 05:03:42 AM
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Hey guys this is my first post here. Nice little forum here. I got into bit coins a couple years ago in order to buy stuff online.
Anyways I use to bet sports with a couple guys on Facebook a while back, but i closed my account so it seems like bitcoin betting is the next best thing.
I just have a couple questions, how is it legal? Its because the currency is in bit coins instead of $ right?
Also do you guys trust these sites with your bit coins? Cant they just take them away, if you have a lot and its technically illegal so theres nothing you can do about? In the past i was betting on a site and it suddenly just shut down, i forgot what it was called and also have a bad experience with nitrogensports.eu i believe where i just did not get my coins back.

Anyways just interested in peoples general opinion if they think these sites are 100% safe and something I can trust with large amounts of coins! If so Im looking forward to betting again! completely forgot about these bit coins sites!
Also what site do you guys use to withdrawal/store your bit coins? I use virwox.com and then from there deposit them back into my paypal account..  is this a trusted site to use? Or a good method? And currently using cloud bet.

Most of the gambling websites related to Bitcoin are fairly safe. You have a higher chance of losing all your money by gambling it all away then having the admins steal it.

Read the reviews on this forum and try it out.

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November 03, 2015, 05:23:20 AM
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Choose a gambling site carefully, better to research first, you can see some famous gambling company in this forum, they have a various gambling game. There are no legalization use bitcoin for gamble, unless if your country is ban bitcoin.

Btw, virwox is trusted site, but the fees is "butt hurt", high fees.
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November 03, 2015, 12:24:37 PM
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Choose a gambling site carefully, better to research first, you can see some famous gambling company in this forum, they have a various gambling game. There are no legalization use bitcoin for gamble, unless if your country is ban bitcoin.

Btw, virwox is trusted site, but the fees is "butt hurt", high fees.
Online gambling in general is sometimes banned. For example in Singapore, Primedice is banned regardless of whether it uses fiat for gambling or not. This is due to the implementation of this law.

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November 03, 2015, 12:37:45 PM
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You could surf through a lot of new websites put on the services forum.Not to mention but everyday a new gambling website is launched on this forum.They are pretty good at paying with low or almost zero house edges.To list out a few
Satoshimines.com
65blockgames
directbet.eu
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November 03, 2015, 02:12:35 PM
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Thanks yall. This stuff seems legit. Im surprised more people dont play. Maybe cause they aren't aware of bitcoins? Who knows, sure beats fanduel though. I think im going to try out direct bet as my second alternative site! Anyone ever bet big on any of these sites and win? I want to thats what i usually do, but im kind of nervous both that i might lose (lol) and that the site will not process my coins for some reason.
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November 03, 2015, 06:42:35 PM
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Choose a gambling site carefully, better to research first, you can see some famous gambling company in this forum, they have a various gambling game. There are no legalization use bitcoin for gamble, unless if your country is ban bitcoin.

Btw, virwox is trusted site, but the fees is "butt hurt", high fees.
Online gambling in general is sometimes banned. For example in Singapore, Primedice is banned regardless of whether it uses fiat for gambling or not. This is due to the implementation of this law.
I think you can still use VPN's and gamble .They've blocked it for some other reasons as not for gambling being a illegal sport .I have few friends from singapore where they don't even have access to blockchain or any online sort of wallets but they still do everything normally using virtual private networks.
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November 03, 2015, 07:50:55 PM
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Thanks yall. This stuff seems legit. Im surprised more people dont play. Maybe cause they aren't aware of bitcoins? Who knows, sure beats fanduel though. I think im going to try out direct bet as my second alternative site! Anyone ever bet big on any of these sites and win? I want to thats what i usually do, but im kind of nervous both that i might lose (lol) and that the site will not process my coins for some reason.

Yes, directbet is very popular among the bit-coiners and you can go for it. I have won many bets through this site and I highly recommend this site for you as well. If you are worried about loosing the coins then start with the small bets and also you can place cross bets to recover the losses if any.
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November 04, 2015, 02:20:02 AM
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Thanks yall. This stuff seems legit. Im surprised more people dont play. Maybe cause they aren't aware of bitcoins? Who knows, sure beats fanduel though. I think im going to try out direct bet as my second alternative site! Anyone ever bet big on any of these sites and win? I want to thats what i usually do, but im kind of nervous both that i might lose (lol) and that the site will not process my coins for some reason.

Yes, directbet is very popular among the bit-coiners and you can go for it. I have won many bets through this site and I highly recommend this site for you as well. If you are worried about loosing the coins then start with the small bets and also you can place cross bets to recover the losses if any.
ok thank you.
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November 04, 2015, 02:35:52 AM
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Thanks yall. This stuff seems legit. Im surprised more people dont play. Maybe cause they aren't aware of bitcoins? Who knows, sure beats fanduel though. I think im going to try out direct bet as my second alternative site! Anyone ever bet big on any of these sites and win? I want to thats what i usually do, but im kind of nervous both that i might lose (lol) and that the site will not process my coins for some reason.
Don't be worry about technical aspects of creating deposits or withdrawing. Unless you type wrong address somewhere there is no way that your bitcoins will be lost.
Well established casinos have usually great customer support and in case something will be unclear they will help you for sure.
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November 04, 2015, 02:56:23 AM
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Thanks yall. This stuff seems legit. Im surprised more people dont play. Maybe cause they aren't aware of bitcoins? Who knows, sure beats fanduel though. I think im going to try out direct bet as my second alternative site! Anyone ever bet big on any of these sites and win? I want to thats what i usually do, but im kind of nervous both that i might lose (lol) and that the site will not process my coins for some reason.
Don't be worry about technical aspects of creating deposits or withdrawing. Unless you type wrong address somewhere there is no way that your bitcoins will be lost.
Well established casinos have usually great customer support and in case something will be unclear they will help you for sure.
yea thanks man, i will definitely go with the good sites. What about making sure i get all my coins from my bets? Obviously they won't jip me with that right? its just hard to calculate  all my bets/winnings and to see if they payed me correctly.
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November 04, 2015, 03:06:00 AM
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Thanks yall. This stuff seems legit. Im surprised more people dont play. Maybe cause they aren't aware of bitcoins? Who knows, sure beats fanduel though. I think im going to try out direct bet as my second alternative site! Anyone ever bet big on any of these sites and win? I want to thats what i usually do, but im kind of nervous both that i might lose (lol) and that the site will not process my coins for some reason.
Don't be worry about technical aspects of creating deposits or withdrawing. Unless you type wrong address somewhere there is no way that your bitcoins will be lost.
Well established casinos have usually great customer support and in case something will be unclear they will help you for sure.
yea thanks man, i will definitely go with the good sites. What about making sure i get all my coins from my bets? Obviously they won't jip me with that right? its just hard to calculate  all my bets/winnings and to see if they payed me correctly.
If you really want to be careful, you can record all your bets when you make them, as well as take screenshots of the confirmation screens in case a problem were to ever occur.

No, they will not tip you but some gambling sited have VIP programs. Smiley
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November 04, 2015, 03:07:48 AM
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Thanks yall. This stuff seems legit. Im surprised more people dont play. Maybe cause they aren't aware of bitcoins? Who knows, sure beats fanduel though. I think im going to try out direct bet as my second alternative site! Anyone ever bet big on any of these sites and win? I want to thats what i usually do, but im kind of nervous both that i might lose (lol) and that the site will not process my coins for some reason.
Don't be worry about technical aspects of creating deposits or withdrawing. Unless you type wrong address somewhere there is no way that your bitcoins will be lost.
Well established casinos have usually great customer support and in case something will be unclear they will help you for sure.
yea thanks man, i will definitely go with the good sites. What about making sure i get all my coins from my bets? Obviously they won't jip me with that right? its just hard to calculate  all my bets/winnings and to see if they payed me correctly.
Big bitcoin casinos have many customer and if someone would notice anything weird and unusual news about will spread fast and casino will be in serious trouble.
But in case you are suspicious screenshot and save it, post on forum and ask help service.
There is also system called "provably fair" which is used to confirm that your game is fair and outcome wasn't changed in any way.

It works like this:

"Your computer will create a random string before each play round (client seed). After an initial shuffle, it uses this string to cut the deck before shuffling the deck a second time. Because our server does not know the random string your computer will send, there is no way for us to predict the shuffle.

Prior to every play round, we show you both your secret string and a hash containing encoded shuffle data our server generated. After each play round we show you the strings from this hash. By combining these with your computers string and the hash, you can successfully decode the complete shuffle and thus verify the legitimacy of the round."

Usually casino has automated script which will help you check that, for example:
https://satoshibet.com/provably_fair and https://bitzino.com/about/fair
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November 04, 2015, 03:24:32 AM
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thank you both. Yes I usually screenshot my bigger winnings just in case! also I mainly bet sports, I'm not rely into cards.
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November 04, 2015, 03:40:36 AM
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Choose a gambling site carefully, better to research first, you can see some famous gambling company in this forum, they have a various gambling game. There are no legalization use bitcoin for gamble, unless if your country is ban bitcoin.

Btw, virwox is trusted site, but the fees is "butt hurt", high fees.
Online gambling in general is sometimes banned. For example in Singapore, Primedice is banned regardless of whether it uses fiat for gambling or not. This is due to the implementation of this law.
I think you can still use VPN's and gamble .They've blocked it for some other reasons as not for gambling being a illegal sport .I have few friends from singapore where they don't even have access to blockchain or any online sort of wallets but they still do everything normally using virtual private networks.
It's probably their network problem then. Bitcoin is not restricted in Singapore and all the Bitcoin websites are accessible unless they are about gambling. In countries which have serious censorship, connection to VPN is much harder. However, you can change your DNS to gamble but the connection isn't obfuscated and they can monitor the websites you go to.

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November 04, 2015, 04:08:14 AM
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Choose a gambling site carefully, better to research first, you can see some famous gambling company in this forum, they have a various gambling game. There are no legalization use bitcoin for gamble, unless if your country is ban bitcoin.

Btw, virwox is trusted site, but the fees is "butt hurt", high fees.
Online gambling in general is sometimes banned. For example in Singapore, Primedice is banned regardless of whether it uses fiat for gambling or not. This is due to the implementation of this law.

hi fellow singaporean! yah i totally understand how it feels. funny thing is that singapore is so open to bitcoin and even encourage and prepare for it but ironically very against gambling when they have 2 big casino in such a small area.
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November 04, 2015, 07:00:34 AM
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I don't know what issue you faced with Nitrogensports.eu but i can say it's a trusted site and i am a regular user of this site and can withdraw my winnings without any problems.Another site is directbet which is also trusted.

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November 04, 2015, 07:10:02 AM
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Virwox has high fees right but they pay hell fast if you want them out as soon as possible. Other people can use localbitcoins

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