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That's just Cardiff opinion he's a guy in the vox slack one of the few people there Cardiff seems like good,guy but these are just his,personal views on vox he's not associated with the company So,he's just speculating why doesn't the voxel team tell us how they spent the 1000 plus bitcoins they raised in the Ico if they were spent on voxulus devolpmemt then no one should call them scammers so voxel team show us what you spent the Ico bitcoins on was it voxelus devolpmemt or what????investors have a right to know
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March 24, 2017, 02:05:01 AM |
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This scam has been eaten so much money from weak investors, not only 1k btc from ico, but also the premined coins. 3k btc scam.
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Verdell
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March 24, 2017, 07:12:19 PM |
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Q 1 s end will be upon us in 7 days I'm sure we will here from the voxelus team since they promised announcement by then and I'm sure there word is good
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March 24, 2017, 07:31:15 PM |
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Q 1 s end will be upon us in 7 days I'm sure we will here from the voxelus team since they promised announcement by then and I'm sure there word is good
Well, let's see how they keep their word. I doubt very much that there will be good news for 7 days.
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Verdell
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March 24, 2017, 11:55:49 PM |
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It would seem it's certainly worth taking a chance on at these low prices with news so by end of q 1 in 7'days and there has been high volume the potential to 10x plus is certainly there you Just never know though
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March 25, 2017, 03:02:04 AM |
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So far, what we know is: So what are we doing here at Voxelus these days?. On one end we are porting Voxelus to Google Daydream, the first version is scheduled to be on the Google Daydream Store on Q2 2017, we are having fun with the new controller and we just don’t want to port it “as is” we want to take advantage of the new motion features and integrate those into the product creating a new way to control Voxelus. Web page updates and overall changes in our site. Nov 2016:The exchange will begin in Q1 2017 with a specific date to be announced. The program will run for a month and will be at a fixed rate of 1.058 percent of the company for every 1,000,000 voxels, regardless of the price of voxels that day. Mar 2017:This is taking more time than anticipated and it makes sense, it’s innovative and the lawyers and making sure all things are in order. I believe that we will be able to announce the program pretty soon. We know a lot of people are interested in this. Please be patient, it’s coming and it will happen as soon as the legal work is done. My guess is next month we will have the buy back and an announcement around May - July about VOX on the Google Daydream store. I imagine they want to buy back the circulating VOX as cheap as possible before release to the store and when price goes up, they begin the sell of (no more than) 1,000,000 VOX per month. From Voxelus' standpoint, if price keep rising from Google Daydream VR news, it makes more sense to buy back cheap, sell high. A market order for 1,000,000 VOX would tank the price that they could sell at so it would have to be a slow feed into an upward trend. Seems like they are keeping us in the dark until they acquire as much VOX through the buy back and then release what has been going on to boost the price. They partnered with POSSIBLE marketing company without saying anything on Bitcointalk or anywhere social in the background. http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/voxelus-inc-and-possible-join-forces-to-explore-opportunities-in-virtual-reality-vr-2185779.htmAbout POSSIBLE POSSIBLE is a creative agency that cares about results. They back up every idea with real-world insights to create work that makes a difference -- and makes a measurable impact. With more than 1,500 employees around the globe, POSSIBLE brings results-driven digital solutions to some of the world's most dynamic brands, including Microsoft, Procter & Gamble, AT&T, Shell, and the Coca-Cola Company. POSSIBLE is a WPP Digital agency. WPP Digital is a portfolio of companies whose capabilities lie at the forefront of digital marketing, experience development, and organizational transformation. Something is brewing... VOX is $0.088 right now with only 31,500,000 coins (Soon to be less) on the market and under $300,000 marketcap on Polo, making it one of the smallest coins. Most coins are backed by random programmers, while VOX is an actual company and has a marketing company. Its a sleeper ready for a pump Its all bullshit and you know it. You are either a bagholder that would like the price to go up before you dump your load or you are a shill. Either way, provide proof of what they are saying because another "announcement" of future "announcements" is not nearly enough.. neexxxxtt EDIT: I love how you have those companies listed under possible in some vague attempt to link them to voxelus. Those companies listed may have employed a marketing agency but are in no way related to this project in any way. EDIT2: "Google Daydream VR news" is vapor news and means jack squat. Try again.
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CryptoWiz420
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March 25, 2017, 03:13:03 AM |
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So it appears that this coin has the downside of an inactive/nonexistent development team and a lack of communication with the users. Due to that and the rapidly falling price it's considered by many to be a scam, the main issue being whether or not Voxelus is disposing of its premine or not (if it's not, then it's not a scam but rather a poorly organized project). One thing to note is that if the equity swap happens, if premine disposal did indeed take place that might become apparent due to the number of outstanding coins being too large, resulting in a larger chunk than 1/3 of the company becoming up for grabs during the swap. Too early to decide one way or another in my opinion, if good news does appear then there's some potential. Considering how the equity swap was advertised so publicly, I find it unlikely that it will not happen at all.
The wonderful thing about blockchain technology is that you can see it all on an explorer https://www.blockexperts.com/vox#Top 10 Rich List for VOX:Address Amount TX Total Send Total Received VW1r4SUB5MQova6CazKztJ9Rud5kaR9uLR 39007134.67 VOX 1 0 VOX 39007134.67 VOX VWQYivZW2YJjNKAw4W5A74qptdAQvXNmZK 15670410.05 VOX 1 0 VOX 15670410.05 VOX VHLrTrTx53xHd7KLR43jL7TBkmknYMPv9A 15000000 VOX 1 0 VOX 15000000 VOX VVNC4VDCydz7nG2LDhgYEvStayKmHN8Kbi 15000000 VOX 5 14954885 VOX 29954885.439502 VOX VFwquuu2Br4sV4vxH4AJbWUKCKTkkfPSbi 15000000 VOX 1 0 VOX 15000000 VOX VPRW7svbhaLfCuskoHj4wP4JHttgZsqx2z 14742393.98 VOX 47 2134879.9 VOX 16877273.88 VOX VPHSZUqx6oEh9iMcvXEQrzzjCRVj28qLJ5 14504335 VOX 1 0 VOX 14504335.741755 VOX VL9NVXRnZx2MVfaWVFDou7X6BYAEn1B1yp 11885000 VOX 52 1685000 VOX 13570000 VOX VFVVeFicCRp4Y7jNumksrkdb4KNsNfjfPo 9075000 VOX 38 1700499.995 VOX 10775499.995 VOX VJgrXu9uxnmihofwPGm7Nu9kBoVN3ef5Um 5541556 VOX 2 0 VOX 5541556 VOX Hmm, so adding up the first 17 balances yields about 180 million coins. Out of these balances more than 210 million coins have been sent out total. However, they also received over 30 million coins total. The numbers happen to add up exactly: the amount owned by these 17 addresses + amount received by them exactly equals the total amount sent by these 17. Perhaps I'm missing something, but to me that seems to indicate that these 17 could well be the premine addresses, and that the funds were simply sent out between them. There must be another 30 million accounted for in another address/several addresses that sent the coins out. Conclusion: I don't see any evidence of premine disposal aside from the 30 million that should be outstanding. Correct me if I'm wrong. It would be quite helpful if the exchanges would indicate which addresses they hold.
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Verdell
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March 25, 2017, 03:58:31 AM |
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I,have no doubt that there is a max of 31.5 million coins in circulation a lot of them were sold in the market not at the presale if I were,holding 180 million coins I would do,everything in my power to,make,those coins valuable at 20 cents a coin that's 36 million dollars I have to believe that the voxel team is,working on a plan that will pave the way for,vox to flourish they have too much incentive not too 180 million reasons to get vox moving in the right direction
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March 25, 2017, 05:06:27 AM Last edit: March 25, 2017, 06:59:51 AM by anvoice |
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Looks like the only definitive resolution to this debate will come after the equity swap news, should it happen. Right now it's pure speculation going on here. Wish the Voxelus team was a bit more active in communicating with users, perhaps this would have played out differently then. Many coins out there that benefited from constructive interaction with users.
One thing that makes sense is that the company should have incentive to increase the value of vox given their vast holdings of it. The thing I don't understand is why the price dropped so sharply: investors should know by now that patience is the key in crypto, and clearly someone wasn't very patient.
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March 25, 2017, 05:08:11 AM |
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Looks like the only definitive resolution to this debate will come after the equity swap news, should it happen. Right now it's pure speculation going on here. Wish the Voxelus team was a bit more active in communicating with users, perhaps this would have played out differently then. Many coins out there that benefited from constructive interaction with users.
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olympicwinner
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March 25, 2017, 05:27:24 AM |
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I,have no doubt that there is a max of 31.5 million coins in circulation a lot of them were sold in the market not at the presale if I were,holding 180 million coins I would do,everything in my power to,make,those coins valuable at 20 cents a coin that's 36 million dollars I have to believe that the voxel team is,working on a plan that will pave the way for,vox to flourish they have too much incentive not too 180 million reasons to get vox moving in the right direction
Is it possible to forge the coin but don't be found on the blockchain? I think this is not feasible because the blockchain is decentralized and transparent.
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CryptoWiz420
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March 25, 2017, 12:20:48 PM |
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So far, what we know is: So what are we doing here at Voxelus these days?. On one end we are porting Voxelus to Google Daydream, the first version is scheduled to be on the Google Daydream Store on Q2 2017, we are having fun with the new controller and we just don’t want to port it “as is” we want to take advantage of the new motion features and integrate those into the product creating a new way to control Voxelus. Web page updates and overall changes in our site. Nov 2016:The exchange will begin in Q1 2017 with a specific date to be announced. The program will run for a month and will be at a fixed rate of 1.058 percent of the company for every 1,000,000 voxels, regardless of the price of voxels that day. Mar 2017:This is taking more time than anticipated and it makes sense, it’s innovative and the lawyers and making sure all things are in order. I believe that we will be able to announce the program pretty soon. We know a lot of people are interested in this. Please be patient, it’s coming and it will happen as soon as the legal work is done. My guess is next month we will have the buy back and an announcement around May - July about VOX on the Google Daydream store. I imagine they want to buy back the circulating VOX as cheap as possible before release to the store and when price goes up, they begin the sell of (no more than) 1,000,000 VOX per month. From Voxelus' standpoint, if price keep rising from Google Daydream VR news, it makes more sense to buy back cheap, sell high. A market order for 1,000,000 VOX would tank the price that they could sell at so it would have to be a slow feed into an upward trend. Seems like they are keeping us in the dark until they acquire as much VOX through the buy back and then release what has been going on to boost the price. They partnered with POSSIBLE marketing company without saying anything on Bitcointalk or anywhere social in the background. http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/voxelus-inc-and-possible-join-forces-to-explore-opportunities-in-virtual-reality-vr-2185779.htmAbout POSSIBLE POSSIBLE is a creative agency that cares about results. They back up every idea with real-world insights to create work that makes a difference -- and makes a measurable impact. With more than 1,500 employees around the globe, POSSIBLE brings results-driven digital solutions to some of the world's most dynamic brands, including Microsoft, Procter & Gamble, AT&T, Shell, and the Coca-Cola Company. POSSIBLE is a WPP Digital agency. WPP Digital is a portfolio of companies whose capabilities lie at the forefront of digital marketing, experience development, and organizational transformation. Something is brewing... VOX is $0.088 right now with only 31,500,000 coins (Soon to be less) on the market and under $300,000 marketcap on Polo, making it one of the smallest coins. Most coins are backed by random programmers, while VOX is an actual company and has a marketing company. Its a sleeper ready for a pump Its all bullshit and you know it. You are either a bagholder that would like the price to go up before you dump your load or you are a shill. Either way, provide proof of what they are saying because another "announcement" of future "announcements" is not nearly enough.. neexxxxttI'm not a bagholder. I actually stumbled upon VOX recently and have done my trading analysis. Voicing your opinions in a civil manner is much more valuable than being ignorant and rude. Why is it only possible I am only a shill or a bagholder? There are no other options like an investor or possibly someone who thinks Voxelus is valuable? Your post history shows how negative of a user you are unless someone is invested into whatever coin like PUNZ or XST you are involved in. How can people take you seriously when you type like a 10 year old on Call of Duty like "LULZ 0Mg". People don't really take people like you seriously because of the way you act on the internet. EDIT: I love how you have those companies listed under possible in some vague attempt to link them to voxelus. Those companies listed may have employed a marketing agency but are in no way related to this project in any way.The reference is how POSSIBLE partnered with Voxelus. The quote I placed was the history of POSSIBLE and the clients that they have worked with. As a marketing agency, being contracted by those companies is good for their reputation. The mere fact that big players have chosen POSSIBLE to provide benefit for them gives credit to the potential of POSSIBLE to Voxelus.EDIT2: "Google Daydream VR news" is vapor news and means jack squat. Try again.Google VR is big news for a VR blockchain company. I don't understand. What is wrong with Voxels progressing?I am a trader. I trade depending on oversold/undersold condition against news and fundamentals. I began to think about what I said in case I might not be seeing something, but then I looked through your post history and realized you are nothing of value. You are one of those people who spread FUD and are generally negative all around no matter what. it still sux and is broken just like ZEC development dump still. you cannot see Cuz closed source but the have billions of coins to dump anytime. They pay themselves will never stop fall says every litecoin bagholder ever. this some kind of weird fuxxed ponzi scam. wheres wallet download? none? LULZ! Ill trade any KASHH for PUNZ coin.. swap. PM ME yep scam just like eboost "convicted" is a good word for what this team should be. I will take Vox for swap to Punz Why would you want VOX if its a scam and who wants PUNZ? VOX is an established company.PUNZ ANN Thread:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1699708.0Are you kidding me? They totally just rebooted the same shitcoin with a new blockchain and said fuck off everyone! goal $1? Why? theres 1000 btc clones... this is no better. NO ONE CARES HAS WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY BROKEN ENGLISH MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have no time for incoherent nonsense, troll. I doubt you are required on this project. Seems like u just want to work this into you getting cash somehow. Not worth buying ico coins for, that sounds like a money grab I think it is very interesting that they still dont answer simple questions instead keeping up with trolling. Anyways, good luck with your project YUGE. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1722179.0I am considering this source code for yuge project.
If you really want to talk about scams, nothing like trusting a coin called "YUGE" with a picture of Donald Trump giving two thumbs up in your pre-ANN. If I remember correctly, YUGE is also a meme from "Its gonna be HUGE". Hard to take your coin seriously when your post history is just a bunch of negative bashing on everyone else's work. You have to give respect before you receive respect. Good luck on your coin and also good luck on your attempt to make a quick buck from the suckers of BitcoinTalk. I wish I had the balls to lower myself to a standard of trying to deceive people with a scamcoin after bashing on everyone else's project. My advice is to delete your account and create a new one before attempting to create a scamcoin ICO where you don't give off the persona that you are a troll that hates everything in the world that doesn't revolve around you. What gives you the impression that I would like my coin taken seriously? Let me remind you that i did not take in a 1000 btc ico which magically disappeared. Your ad hominem attack is laughable.
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CryptoWiz420
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March 25, 2017, 12:23:13 PM |
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Looks like the only definitive resolution to this debate will come after the equity swap news, should it happen. Right now it's pure speculation going on here. Wish the Voxelus team was a bit more active in communicating with users, perhaps this would have played out differently then. Many coins out there that benefited from constructive interaction with users.
One thing that makes sense is that the company should have incentive to increase the value of vox given their vast holdings of it. The thing I don't understand is why the price dropped so sharply: investors should know by now that patience is the key in crypto, and clearly someone wasn't very patient.
What brings you back from 2013 to post? Lower the price before the equity swap means they can get more VOX from circulation cheaper. $0.01 to $1 VOX = 100x Profit $0.008 to $1 VOX = 125x Profit This type of post is what points me to the idea that you are a bagholder. You are trying to create a false sense that this coin/project is going to increase in value to $1 but it wont because the "dev" team historically "announces news" and once a little spike happens then they dump a motherload of coins.
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anvoice
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March 25, 2017, 06:56:08 PM |
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Looks like the only definitive resolution to this debate will come after the equity swap news, should it happen. Right now it's pure speculation going on here. Wish the Voxelus team was a bit more active in communicating with users, perhaps this would have played out differently then. Many coins out there that benefited from constructive interaction with users.
One thing that makes sense is that the company should have incentive to increase the value of vox given their vast holdings of it. The thing I don't understand is why the price dropped so sharply: investors should know by now that patience is the key in crypto, and clearly someone wasn't very patient.
What brings you back from 2013 to post? Lower the price before the equity swap means they can get more VOX from circulation cheaper. $0.01 to $1 VOX = 100x Profit $0.008 to $1 VOX = 125x Profitll Here's where I'm probably missing something: they're swapping vox for equity regardless of the trading price of vox that day. In other words, it shouldn't matter to them what the price is until they start actually selling coins. Even then, a dramatic price dip like we've seen can destroy investor confidence and is bad in the long run. So I don't understand why they would want to lower the price on purpose. Finally, there are only 2 ways for them to lower price: (1) sell premine, which is fradulent and they don't seem to have done that, (2) deliver no good news, in which case I still don't see how a 99.5% drop happened.
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March 25, 2017, 06:57:25 PM |
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Looks like the only definitive resolution to this debate will come after the equity swap news, should it happen. Right now it's pure speculation going on here. Wish the Voxelus team was a bit more active in communicating with users, perhaps this would have played out differently then. Many coins out there that benefited from constructive interaction with users.
One thing that makes sense is that the company should have incentive to increase the value of vox given their vast holdings of it. The thing I don't understand is why the price dropped so sharply: investors should know by now that patience is the key in crypto, and clearly someone wasn't very patient.
What brings you back from 2013 to post? Lower the price before the equity swap means they can get more VOX from circulation cheaper. $0.01 to $1 VOX = 100x Profit $0.008 to $1 VOX = 125x Profit This type of post is what points me to the idea that you are a bagholder. You are trying to create a false sense that this coin/project is going to increase in value to $1 but it wont because the "dev" team historically "announces news" and once a little spike happens then they dump a motherload of coins. Not really there has been no motherload of coins dumped. Your just being a troll My issue here is this, why would we go for the equity swap? what is the value of the company we are swapping coins for? What benefits are there for owning shares , profit earnings etc? If it's simply to just hold shares in a newly registered company i think its pointless of the swap? also they mentioned funding, what do they need funding for wouldn't that mean they are still developing and our shares are locked? can we sell shares if we wanted to, like is it listed on a stock exchange, if so then i'd be interested in the swap. other wise my advice to hold onto your coins
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March 25, 2017, 07:01:02 PM |
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Score. Previously, though jimblasko something said. Now, in general, and it does not appear here. jimblasko already tell the exact date when the news?
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lockepi
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March 25, 2017, 07:09:47 PM |
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Overall i think the coin is seriously undervalued even if there was no equity swap, given where we have fallen from
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Verdell
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March 25, 2017, 07:15:30 PM |
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If you take the coin swap your getting double the equity since they'll swap up too 31.5 million coin for 33 pct equity you can't sell the shares on stock exchange because it's privately held company you could sell your shares to some one else at these low levels if you owned all the 31.5 million coins and you bought at today's 950 price you'd be getting 33 pct of voxelus for 280 000 dollars that seems like a good deal to me and if you could then acquire another 18 pct of the stock you'd have controlling interest
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March 25, 2017, 07:16:50 PM |
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this coin is low
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lockepi
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March 25, 2017, 07:19:37 PM |
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If you take the coin swap your getting double the equity since they'll swap up too 31.5 million coin for 33 pct equity you can't sell the shares on stock exchange because it's privately held company you could sell your shares to some one else at these low levels if you owned all the 31.5 million coins and you bought at today's 950 price you'd be getting 33 pct of voxelus for 280 000 dollars that seems like a good deal to me and if you could then acquire another 18 pct of the stock you'd have controlling interest
Yes if you look at it like that it sounds brilliant but the team they have and what they trying to accomplish alone should see this coin value soar but in regards to the equity swap entirely depends on the deal, any dividends stuff like that. pretty much a sweet deal for 33% of the company where you have this team. If they later have plans to list on a stock exchange it would be super cool
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