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[ungod]

You continue to offer BetSoft games, don't talk about a great place to play. Get your shit together and ditch them.
Also you continue to ignore questions which answers would make you look bad, or how about answering those questions by Jason Ort?

I have been bumping jasonort's thread that contains his questions, it continues to be unanswered and buried. Meanwhile, Betcoin posts every place they get a chance how satisfied and happy jasonort is, truly disgusting behavior.

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[Lutpin]

But here's a more interesting screenshot taken just now as I was posting.  Final table hand....Smile...sweet!

That's indeed interesting, what do we have here?
Oh, a tab telling me you're looking into mexxer(-2?)
And what's there besides, a wikipedia article of Anthony (Lucas?).

Looks like you're doing your homework.
If you'd only be that thorough when checking the service you advertise for...

[cjmoles]

But here's a more interesting screenshot taken just now as I was posting.  Final table hand....Smile...sweet!

That's indeed interesting, what do we have here?
Oh, a tab telling me you're looking into mexxer(-2?)
And what's there besides, a wikipedia article of Anthony (Lucas?).

Looks like you're doing your homework.
If you'd only be that thorough when checking the service you advertise for...

Damn, you're fast...forgot to blank that out on that screenshot....and you got there before I could delete it.  Oh, yes....that's just some of it, I always do my research.  And, yes, I really do feel slighted by what you guys are attempting, so I AM doing the research to defend myself.  

To be sure, the research I've been conducting on Betcoin.ag over the past several years has also been rigorous because I spend my money there.  And, according to my research on Betcoin.ag, I have come to the conclusion that they are not scamming people out of their money, so that's is why I am taking a stand.

Oh, I apologize for calling you a punk....that's been weighing on me....I was mad.

[TwitchySeal]

Creepy...

[cjmoles]

Creepy...

Do you see what I mean about this guys credibility Lutpin?....You seen the screenshots before I deleted them, so you know they were manipulated....How can we trust any information that this guys posts?  This has been going on for over a year with this guy.  While I have done my own research, I wrote twitchy off as just a person with some sort of pathological condition....But, clearly, his credibility is diminished.

EDIT:  Oh, and to clarify: That was not mexxer-2's profile you see in the screenshot.  That was this thread:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1378522.60  Titled:   "mexxer-2, Lutpin, and EcuaMobi are destroying this forum."

[Betcoin.AG]

cjmoles, we and everyone else appreciates your posts, but really don't waste your time.  People get it and understand exactly what is going on.  Many community members, mods and staff have also been in communication with us about the trolling, multi-accounting by bitcoin talk members, bullying of other members, conflict of interest of many of the posters, activity of many of the posters on Betcoin.ag and so much more. Again, we really appreciate your activity, but your time is very precious, let them waste their time posting in our threads while you do something productive like winning a poker tournament or two at Betcoin poker.  

We have been urged to create reputation threads on a few of the posters involved but really don't have the time at the moment and really don't care to get involved in the politics of bitcoin talk.  Instead we will continue to provide a very solid service to everyone that really is unaffected by trolling because of the quality and we will embrace it and build some great promos around it to bring in more people into Betcoin and our signature campaign!

We also have the accounts BetcoinCasino and BetcoinSports that will be official accounts posting in the threads as well.  

[BetcoinCasino]

Hi guys, hope to be more active time permitting here and throughout as our former manager roslinpl has been.  He has taught us a tremendous amount and we will continue to provide a great campaign.  Betcoin.ag, BetcoinCasino, BetcoinSports and BetcoinPoker will all be official accounts that can answer questions for you as we are diversifying this a bit internally under the guidance of our new manager.  Thank you.   

[TwitchySeal]

Hi guys, hope to be more active time permitting here and throughout as our former manager roslinpl has been.  He has taught us a tremendous amount and we will continue to provide a great campaign.  Betcoin.ag, BetcoinCasino, BetcoinSports and BetcoinPoker will all be official accounts that can answer questions for you as we are diversifying this a bit internally under the guidance of our new manager.  Thank you.  

Oh thank god you're here.  Finally someone we can trust!


I can see what's happening already.  Another layer.

"I'm just customer support, please submit a ticket and maybe a manager will respond" ===>

"I'm the new manager, you'll have to wait and see if another manager will respond"  ===>

"We're just the casino, you'll have to wait and see if the software provider will respond"  ===>

"They responded, here's some money but you can only have it if you sign this NDA"

[icecube45]

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[albysprx]

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[roslinpl]

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all accounts reviewed and PMs sent to each of you.

Hi Sir,
Thank you for your reply. I pinged you again with few queries. Will i get a change in future slot? Will be happy to join you if you confirm me to do. Any chance sir?

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[Equinoxx]

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[roslinpl]

Is this campaign still running? If so am I eligible to enroll? 

Yes it is running!

PM sent.

Best regards.

[tyz]

@roslinpl: Currently, posts posted into the local sections are disallowed or not counted. Maybe you should think about to count 5-10 posts per months in the local sections. I understand the fact that you are not able to validate them, so maybe it should be limited to only users which have shown good post quality over two or three stages. You could also limit it to Legendary or Hero Members only. Just my thoughts to improve this great signature campaign

[langedwig]

I would like to join the campaign sign
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Hi. I would like to join this campaign. I once wasn't accepted but now I'm a Senior and I post in threads related to BTC, so I'll try my luck once again

Is this still available?

I want to join this signature campaign, whether I can join? Please tell me if I could join. Thank you

I would also like to join in this campaign.

Hi, I would like to join this signature campaign, please tell me if i got accepted or not , thanks

Hello everyone,

all accounts reviewed and PMs sent to each of you.

Hi Sir,
Thank you for your reply. I pinged you again with few queries. Will i get a change in future slot? Will be happy to join you if you confirm me to do. Any chance sir?

Sure, come back later we will review your account again.

WANT TO JOIN?


Are you a creative and a high quality poster who want to get some bonus from a daily posting?

JOIN OUR CAMPAIGN!

Please read the OP for further instructions.

Best regards.

Thank you sir. Working on much to reach your class of posting. i am sure i will join you in future. You are really encouraging the joiners in introducing bonus upgraded posts. i love to earn that as well. Thank you once again sir.

[TwitchySeal]

The following is from Betcoins "JasonOrt Case Resolution" on July 6th.

...Throughout this entire process jasonort can attest to the fact that the Betcoin.ag staff made ourselves available nearly 24/7 to answer every question and provide proper updates when available as we would have done for all of our great players. jasonort was also clear to never blame Betcoin.ag for this issue as this was clearly a software issue and would have happened on any other online casino.

Throughout this entire circumstance jasonort continued to play at Betcoin.ag and so did many new and old Betcoin.ag players. We are very thankful for that. We will always do the right thing at Betcoin.ag for our great players...

6 days ago JasonOrt made a post to Set the Record Straight and ask Betcoin to answer the following 3 questions

1. Explain the relationship between Betcoin & Software Vendor. When a player places a wager on a game exactly how does it work? Explain the chain of custody of the wager and who is responsible for paying the player for a win or taking the money from a loss. Who holds the funds for a progressive jackpot? What recourse does a player have if they feel that they have been wrongly paid?

2. Why does Betcoin censor or delete forum posts? As I said transparency is very important to me as a player. It is the foundation of trust. At the beginning of this dispute I tried to bring this vigorously to the public because I felt I had been wronged. I had forum posts and comments removed by the moderators and staff. Why? My opinion on this is that Betcoin does not want to bite the hand that feeds them (The software vendors). If they allow posts that are negative towards the vendors it could jeopardize their business dealings with them. I understand this, but Betcoin needs to understand that without the players that play here there is no business. The customer should come first, not the vendor. Unless it is outright offensive allowing the players to publicly state their opinions is important. Freedom of speech is very important to me. Allowing dissenting viewpoints and difference of opinion need to be protected. Having my speech censored made me feel as though the profits were more important than the player. This is where I feel that Betcoin dropped the ball. Do the vendors monitor your forums? If so what does that communication look like? Do they ask you to take down negative postings against them?

3. Although I cannot comment on the issue of my spin, what is your opinion? Should the spin as it occurred have won the jackpot? I want only a one word answer. Yes or No. No disclaimers. One word only. It is your opinion and not legally binding.

Instead of responding to JasonOrt, Betcoin is deleting posts to keep Jasons thread from appearing on the "recent activity".  

From player chat: (I edited it down, archived complete version: https://archive.is/jrhWQ )




Another recently deleted explained why a new player decided to make the following post about me (none of it is true) Twitchyseal Offered Me Money on Instagram to Lie About Betcoin



The entire archived post can be found here (it's long): https://gyazo.com/caf33a91785fc3570d7c736db3e8c9c8



Yesterday, shortly after the following exchange in chat:



Cjmoles left me the following negative feedback (lies obviously):



It seems he wasn't rewarded as generously as ajundftd, just a step 3 (25mbtc) ticket

[-Oxygen]

No worries, I will inform them why they can wear this signature. It will be better if you will do your crusade in other place. Please.

Let me then inform you that, starting end of the month, after all of you guys are being paid by betcoin.ag, I strongly consider leaving negative feedback to everyone who continues to advertise betcoin.ag
I have nothing against any of you participants, that's the reason why I will wait with this till after your payround, but advertising betcoin.ag in their current state should not be anything acceptable on this forum.

This is bad for the participants and to those who want to join in the near future. If that's the case are you going to put negative trust to fortune jack signature campaign participants also? Because they have an inconsistent and not trusted image? You should tag them also I think, since your reason for this is that the casino being advertised have some anomalies.

Check fortunejack trust page in the image attached

https://i.imgur.com/McIId7A.jpg

[RHavar]

 Are people starting to fully understand what is going on in regards to 2 of our 3 negative trusts that remain own or are deeply involved in direct online competitive casinos and at least two of the other negative trust reviews are owned by the same person...

Wow, it's really pretty slimy to smear others to get our of your mess. I assume you're talking about Dooglus and his ownership of just-dice, but we both know his trust feedback to you has absolutely nothing to him being a competitor, but rather his concern for players. He runs an old-school toycoin casino, that doesn't even take bitcoin or offer anything but dice. It's hard to call that a "direct competitor", and we know both know very well that your business has absolutely zero impact on his.

Honestly I think you owe him an apology for this, and your other insinuating remarks.

[TwitchySeal]

This is bad for the participants and to those who want to join in the near future. If that's the case are you going to put negative trust to fortune jack signature campaign participants also? Because they have an inconsistent and not trusted image? You should tag them also I think, since your reason for this is that the casino being advertised have some anomalies.

FortuneJack also relies on their signature campaign to build and maintain their reputation.  Good point.
I also suspect many users have alt accounts in both Betcoin and FJ.
That's for another thread though, I don't want to derail.

 Are people starting to fully understand what is going on in regards to 2 of our 3 negative trusts that remain own or are deeply involved in direct online competitive casinos and at least two of the other negative trust reviews are owned by the same person...

Wow, it's really pretty slimy to smear others to get our of your mess. I assume you're talking about Dooglus and his ownership of just-dice, but we both know his trust feedback to you has absolutely nothing to him being a competitor, but rather his concern for players. He runs an old-school toycoin casino, that doesn't even take bitcoin or offer anything but dice. It's hard to call that a "direct competitor", and we know both know very well that your business has absolutely zero impact on his.

Honestly I think you owe him an apology for this, and your other insinuating remarks.

The fact dooglus has waited this long has me puzzled after they lied to him, treated him like shit and eventually just ignored him