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[Lutpin]

Think about your reasons for a moment. You want to leave feedback to people just because they participate here? Stupid.

I consider leaving negative feedback for advertising betcoin.ag, a company deeply in trouble currently,
with many unresolved scam accusations, a yet not completely resolved upset about a jackpot including BetSoft, which resulted in a player receiving several houndreds BTC less than he was due, with a way to avoid questions that could make them look worse, with a way to answer to my questions that essentially says "give negs to others aswell, if you give us".

IMO your credibility is on the edge because you trust trolls more than others. Maybe you should think about it, hmm?

I trust JasonOrt, who was the one to win the Jackpot, or not to win it, according to BetSoft.
I trust facts and evidence.

Because Betcoin.ag is not a scam. You should already know about it.

Is that the reason why you stopped working for them?
Or was it the one where you said you would stop if someone showed you their scammy behaviour, and now you stopped?!

[Quickseller]

Retaliation feedbacks are one of the worst things you can do, they completely destroy a persons credibility...

Says the person who leaves retaliatory negative feedback

I think it is ridiculous to say that participants will receive negative feedback after "they get paid next". It is either appropriate to advertise for them or not, regardless of the timing of payment for advertising.

I don't think anyone should advertise for betcoin, however I would not go as far as to say that anyone who advertises for them is a scammer, I think anyone who advertises for them would lack credibility in my eyes though.

[roslinpl]

Is that the reason why you stopped working for them?

I'm leaving because I'm sick of trolls and people like you who help the trolls to troll.

I want to thank Betcoin.ag staff for helping me come to a resolution with BetSoft on the matter of my spin on "The Glam Life". I have said in my forum posts on bitcointalk.org and other places that my issue was with BetSoft and not Betcoin. Andrew and the staff at Betcoin.ag have always been good to me, and have continued to support me in this matter with BetSoft. They were unfortunately caught in the middle of this situation as the BetSoft slots are played directly on BetSoft servers, and they not Betcoin.ag decide the payouts for the slots. Andrew has helped to connect me with BetSoft, and today we have come to a mutually agreed upon settlement. This settlement is confidential, so please don't ask the details. I will continue to play with Betcoin.ag, and hold no ill feelings towards them, quite the contrary. I look forward to continuing my relationship with Betcoin.ag and feel very good about their actions in helping me to resolve this matter.

[uki]

I was away for more or less two weeks and now I came back and saw that roslin is leaving as a campaign manager. First of all, very sad to see you leave, as you are an excellent campaign manager. Secondly, what happens to the campaign in the next stage?

[ajareselde]

For example - from Theymos : "Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here."

If betcoin.ag was to advertize using paid forum ads (which is highly likely) , which one of you will threaten Theymos or BadBear with negatives for advertising them ?!

[DarkStar_]

For example - from Theymos : "Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here."

If betcoin.ag was to advertize using paid forum ads (which is highly likely) , which one of you will threaten Theymos or BadBear with negatives for advertising them ?!

No one, because the bottom of the forum ad says

"Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here."

and that theymos will likely reject the bid, like he has for previous bidders who either had -ve trust in his trust list, and that he rejects bids from services that are too suspicious. Take a look at previous auctions.

I'm leaving because I'm sick of trolls and people like you who help the trolls to troll.

I want to thank Betcoin.ag staff for helping me come to a resolution with BetSoft on the matter of my spin on "The Glam Life". I have said in my forum posts on bitcointalk.org and other places that my issue was with BetSoft and not Betcoin. Andrew and the staff at Betcoin.ag have always been good to me, and have continued to support me in this matter with BetSoft. They were unfortunately caught in the middle of this situation as the BetSoft slots are played directly on BetSoft servers, and they not Betcoin.ag decide the payouts for the slots. Andrew has helped to connect me with BetSoft, and today we have come to a mutually agreed upon settlement. This settlement is confidential, so please don't ask the details. I will continue to play with Betcoin.ag, and hold no ill feelings towards them, quite the contrary. I look forward to continuing my relationship with Betcoin.ag and feel very good about their actions in helping me to resolve this matter.

Your actually going to use the jasonort quote as valid feedback? Funny, since there is also this post, which betcoin has still not responded to, and banned people for bumping it. https://www.betcoin.ag/setting-record-straight
Lets see, he wrote that he is bound by a contract to not talk about Betsoft.
That post you quoted was likely made as part of the contract, to get his settlement.

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[poptok1]

Your actually going to use the jasonort quote as valid feedback? Funny, since there is also this post, which betcoin has still not responded to, and banned people for bumping it. https://www.betcoin.ag/setting-record-straight
Lets see, he wrote

I am contractually bound not to comment in regards to BetSoft.

That post was likely made as part of the contract, to get his settlement.

He(jasonort) also asked politely not to be quoted on outside forums...
...so much for the respect of others requests I guess.
If you read his post, you can clearly feel that this guy has nothing against
Betcoin, he is still using it, he gives thanks to the crew for helping etc.
Only bad thing he has to say about Betcoin is its PR management.
jasonort-case is closed.Finished with success so stop spamming with it.

[borgobio]

I'd like to join the campaign

[giagge]

HOW TO JOIN:
 
To join our campaign click the reply button and write a post where you will include an information "that you would like to join".
You don't have to write your current post count, Bitcoin address or anything else only to express interest in joining.
 
Soon after that you will be automatically forwarded to the recruitment process, in which campaign manager will choose only the best posters.
You will receive an answer to accept or reject your candidacy and further instructions via a forum's private message.
 

I'd like to join the signature campaign .

[TwitchySeal]

Is that the reason why you stopped working for them?

I'm leaving because I'm sick of trolls and people like you who help the trolls to troll.

I want to thank Betcoin.ag staff for helping me come to a resolution with BetSoft on the matter of my spin on "The Glam Life". I have said in my forum posts on bitcointalk.org and other places that my issue was with BetSoft and not Betcoin. Andrew and the staff at Betcoin.ag have always been good to me, and have continued to support me in this matter with BetSoft. They were unfortunately caught in the middle of this situation as the BetSoft slots are played directly on BetSoft servers, and they not Betcoin.ag decide the payouts for the slots. Andrew has helped to connect me with BetSoft, and today we have come to a mutually agreed upon settlement. This settlement is confidential, so please don't ask the details. I will continue to play with Betcoin.ag, and hold no ill feelings towards them, quite the contrary. I look forward to continuing my relationship with Betcoin.ag and feel very good about their actions in helping me to resolve this matter.

You're leaving for the same reason you removed their signature.  To avoid damaging your reputation.

[TwitchySeal]

Your actually going to use the jasonort quote as valid feedback? Funny, since there is also this post, which betcoin has still not responded to, and banned people for bumping it. https://www.betcoin.ag/setting-record-straight
Lets see, he wrote

I am contractually bound not to comment in regards to BetSoft.

That post was likely made as part of the contract, to get his settlement.

He(jasonort) also asked politely not to be quoted on outside forums...
...so much for the respect of others requests I guess.
If you read his post, you can clearly feel that this guy has nothing against
Betcoin, he is still using it, he gives thanks to the crew for helping etc.
Only bad thing he has to say about Betcoin is its PR management.
jasonort-case is closed.Finished with success so stop spamming with it.

Keep reading idiot.


Here, i'll help you.

Betcoin.ag has just erased my entire post on their forums.  I gave them every opportunity to explain their side of this.  I did not throw them under the bus.  I was civil.  And now they erase my post and just expect me to disappear?  Game on.

I think you should perform action against them, you should fight them into court since the amount u have won is alot and should no matter what be paid to you. Betcoin.ag is a scam company, they only pay small winnings.

[cartell0]

Retaliation feedbacks are one of the worst things you can do, they completely destroy a persons credibility...

Says the person who leaves retaliatory negative feedback

I think it is ridiculous to say that participants will receive negative feedback after "they get paid next". It is either appropriate to advertise for them or not, regardless of the timing of payment for advertising.

I don't think anyone should advertise for betcoin, however I would not go as far as to say that anyone who advertises for them is a scammer, I think anyone who advertises for them would lack credibility in my eyes though.

Then why the fuck Cryptodevil leaves ridiculous negative feedback to members who are engaged in some sort of ponzi schemes? Its already mentioned to use your 'caveat emptor' above the investor based games section?

I think the participants who will still advertise this shit scam Betcoin.ag they definitely deserve a negative feedback in a way to inform other people that the site is not trusted at all, in contradiction to the signature they are wearing.

https://i.imgur.com/dPi2UeO.jpg

Dont be a fucking hypocrite Quickseller! Lutpin is doing the right thing as cryptodevil does in the investor based section.
Betcoin.ag is no less than those ponzi biz sites!

[Quickseller]

Retaliation feedbacks are one of the worst things you can do, they completely destroy a persons credibility...

Says the person who leaves retaliatory negative feedback

I think it is ridiculous to say that participants will receive negative feedback after "they get paid next". It is either appropriate to advertise for them or not, regardless of the timing of payment for advertising.

I don't think anyone should advertise for betcoin, however I would not go as far as to say that anyone who advertises for them is a scammer, I think anyone who advertises for them would lack credibility in my eyes though.

Then why the fuck Cryptodevil leaves ridiculous negative feedback to members who are engaged in some sort of ponzi schemes? Its already mentioned to use your 'caveat emptor' above the investor based games section?

I think the participants who will still advertise this shit scam Betcoin.ag they definitely deserve a negative feedback in a way to inform other people that the site is not trusted at all, in contradiction to the signature they are wearing.



Dont be a fucking hypocrite Quickseller! Lutpin is doing the right thing as cryptodevil does in the investor based section.
Betcoin.ag is no less than those ponzi biz sites!

1) I said that I don't think that anyone should be advertising betcoin.

2) There is nothing in advertising betcoin by "normal" users that makes them a scammer. There is no reason that someone should trust betcoin simply because some random user is advertising for them. If you have significant amounts of influence in the industry of the company you are advertising then it would be different.

3) If 2 was untrue, then there is no reason why participants should be allowed to continue to wear their signatures until the end of the payment period. You should either receive negative trust for wearing an advertisement or you don't.

4) cryptodevil gives out negative trust because, at best, he does not agree with what people are saying in the ponzi section. More or less all of the people cryptodevil has left negative trust against are in any way scammers.

[poptok1]

Keep reading idiot.

Here, i'll help you.

"deleted all my posts" This is a lie! This post is still there so what are you talking about?
Are you calling me an idiot, for not knowing about some meaningless post from this morning? I dont know from witch third country you are coming from but in my State those kinds of names are against the law of defamation. 3years in prison is proposed by codex.
Learn what eristic is and come back to the world, when you are ready to interact with other human beings.
By throwing that "name" you just lost the game, sir

NOTE
By quoting this jasonort guy, you may bring him harm. He ASKED not to being quoted for a reason, maybe his deal with betsoft will be broken? You want to ruin his thing?
Please turn of emotions, OK? Those are for women...   

[TwitchySeal]

2) There is nothing in advertising betcoin by "normal" users that makes them a scammer.

I hate to use the word "scammer" because it usually results in a debate over the definition of the word.

But, advertising for Betcoin at this point can only be due to ignorance (intentional or not) or blatant disregard for the consequences of your decisions in exchange for money.

There is no reason that someone should trust betcoin simply because some random user is advertising for them.

Imo it's not the actual signature wearing that makes this campaign worth over BTC6 a month to Betcoin.  It's the way (many of) the sig campaign members will say or do anything to impress Betcoin who, in turn, rewards them with bonuses privately.  It creates this false "yay Betcoin, we are #1" hype among members who are mostly not even players on the site.  

3) If 2 was untrue, then there is no reason why participants should be allowed to continue to wear their signatures until the end of the payment period. You should either receive negative trust for wearing an advertisement or you don't.

I agree with you in principle, but I also think Lutpin is making the right choice on a human level by giving fair warning and allowing people to get paid and go find another more ethical campaign.  If he were to just drop the hammer mid-month there would be even 10x more drama than there is now.

By throwing that "name" you just lost the game, sir

Ok, gg then, idiot.

[Lutpin]

If betcoin.ag was to advertize using paid forum ads (which is highly likely) , which one of you will threaten Theymos or BadBear with negatives for advertising them ?!

Neither. Betcoin.AG is in their current state not allowed to advertise on the forum.

5 @ 0.9

Sorry, but you currently have negative trust from my perspective, so I will not accept your bid.

[TwitchySeal]

For example - from Theymos : "Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here."

If betcoin.ag was to advertize using paid forum ads (which is highly likely) , which one of you will threaten Theymos or BadBear with negatives for advertising them ?!

Fwiw, a staff member actually joined this campaign recently.  I called them out for it in meta (for not doing the research) and they left within a few days. 

If Betcoin were allowed to advertise anywhere on this forum, I would call out whoever was responsible. (like I have here)

[kotwica666]

Im sure that this conversation is between players.. more - between experienced players! In my private opinion this is fight between competition and most 'accounts' are involved in advertisement campaigns on bitcointalk.

"Dirty games around."

Lutpin - with all respect - everyone easily can check that you are alt account of CryptoGames - so competition! How the hell you can be objective part of this disscussion?

Edit: Just to realize you: You broke the basic rules of ethic. Just think about that..

Ps. We should disscuss that in PM, but you didn't answer my message.

[kotwica666]

For example - from Theymos : "Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here."

If betcoin.ag was to advertize using paid forum ads (which is highly likely) , which one of you will threaten Theymos or BadBear with negatives for advertising them ?!

Fwiw, a staff member actually joined this campaign recently.  I called them out for it in meta (for not doing the research) and they left within a few days.  

If Betcoin were allowed to advertise anywhere on this forum, I would call out whoever was responsible. (like I have here)

As i watch "your case" from months, there is one BIG problem: There still is word against word, so in other words it is PAT. There is no option to say who is good and who is bad. ..and i think you know that.. and what is worst - you use that!

I'm here to tell people that gambling that's very big business, and many "trustworthy" people will want to show how good they are.


Most important thing for all Bitcointalk users: Don't trust nobody online! If someone is trying to show that is trying to protect you.. in other words - he just want to fuck you up more!

[TwitchySeal]

-snip-

why did you remove signature?  You joined july 7th, you could of been getting paid i think, right?

As for your BIG PROBLEM, if you'd been watching my case for months, how did you miss all the evidence I've posted?  Or Betcoins response (or lack of)?

Edit: If you'd like to make a direct accusation or question, I'd be happy to respond directly to it, about any issue I've brought up including evidence I've presented.  Something Betcoin clearly is not willing to do.