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November 13, 2015, 08:41:49 PM
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I could not use the translator was on the subway , as I said at least try to write well
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November 17, 2015, 03:22:07 PM
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My cousin was mining with his Laptop Dogecoin. After 1 day it was burned down, it even smoked out of it. Fortunately nothing in addition happened but the Laptop was brocken

Don't do mining at Laptops.

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November 18, 2015, 02:13:08 PM
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If you are going to mining effectively, try doing this on a desktop PC instead of a laptop, since laptops are not suitable for intensive processes due to their design (which limits good air flow to reduce the heat) A gaming desktop PC would mine lots of alt coins of your choosing. (especially if mined with GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task).  Smiley

 

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November 18, 2015, 10:03:12 PM
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GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task).  Smiley

For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage.
Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool...
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November 20, 2015, 11:49:46 AM
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GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task).  Smiley

For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage.
Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool...

Exactly. Mining with GPU depends on the coin algorithm, whereas some are efficiently mined with the GPU while others are better mined with CPU. An example of this is Ethereum which can be mined with a GPU due to its Dagger Hashimoto algorithm. Please correct me if I'm wrong.  Cheesy

 

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November 21, 2015, 06:16:14 AM
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if you're a Manager or Owner of the laptops, you really don't know how to do your work sorry.

Laptops arent for mining.


If you wanna mine buy a fucking greedseed and put in your desk you'll earn more than with the 20 laptops.

what you been doing in the forum? your rank mind experience or you just post for post?

Its Laptops no LLaptos, I know my English is shit but mate at least try to write proper

Your English is indeed shit, and you apparently have no idea what you are commenting on. Fuck off maybe?

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November 21, 2015, 04:04:12 PM
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GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task).  Smiley

For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage.
Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool...

what pow? i only now about magi, but it was an old coin, now i believe there is a gpu for that also
it was also inefficient to run gpu on monero algo i think, or not very groundbreaking if you compare it to cpu
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November 21, 2015, 04:16:02 PM
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GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task).  Smiley

For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage.
Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool...

what pow?

Cuckoo Cycle

https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo
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November 22, 2015, 12:47:33 AM
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GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task).  Smiley

For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage.
Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool...

what pow?

Cuckoo Cycle

https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo

This is a great concept for Proof of Work mining algorithm. Is not there a crypto currency which implements this by the way? It would be pretty interesting to check it out.  Grin

 

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November 22, 2015, 03:07:55 AM
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GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task).  Smiley

For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage.
Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool...

what pow?

Cuckoo Cycle

https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo

This is a great concept for Proof of Work mining algorithm. Is not there a crypto currency which implements this by the way? It would be pretty interesting to check it out.  Grin

No; it's not used anywhere.
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November 22, 2015, 07:19:13 AM
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Personally I would probably take a look into mining gridcoin (GRC).  It's not like mining in the traditional sense in that it basically requires you to dedicate computer resources to any number of Boinc approved projects and rewards you for the work they put in.

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November 22, 2015, 12:49:26 PM
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GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task).  Smiley

For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage.
Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool...

what pow?

Cuckoo Cycle

https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo

is this something like scrypt-n but for sha256 to counteract asic? i seen something about memory there
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November 22, 2015, 03:56:14 PM
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GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task).  Smiley

For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage.
Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool...

what pow?

Cuckoo Cycle

https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo

is this something like scrypt-n but for sha256 to counteract asic? i seen somethign about memory there

sha256 is the simplest choice of compute-bound hash function in the Hashcash Proof of Work.
scrypt-n is an attempt to make the hash function require lots of memory but fails in three ways:
1) scrypt allows trading off memory for time
2) the larger n, the slower the hash computation, quickly making it unsuitable for fast verification
3) scrypt is still rather computation heavy

In Cuckoo Cycle computation is minimized and you spend most time waiting for memory.
You can scale memory use to the GB range while remaining instantly verifiable.
Trading off memory for time is not so feasible, incurring an extra order-of-magnitude slowdown.
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November 23, 2015, 01:25:02 AM
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GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task).  Smiley

For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage.
Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool...

what pow?

Cuckoo Cycle

https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo

is this something like scrypt-n but for sha256 to counteract asic? i seen somethign about memory there

sha256 is the simplest choice of compute-bound hash function in the Hashcash Proof of Work.
scrypt-n is an attempt to make the hash function require lots of memory but fails in three ways:
1) scrypt allows trading off memory for time
2) the larger n, the slower the hash computation, quickly making it unsuitable for fast verification
3) scrypt is still rather computation heavy

In Cuckoo Cycle computation is minimized and you spend most time waiting for memory.
You can scale memory use to the GB range while remaining instantly verifiable.
Trading off memory for time is not so feasible, incurring an extra order-of-magnitude slowdown.


All these ideas and features of the new Cuckoo Cycle algorithm, makes me think that we will be soon seeing CuckooCoin around. It will be better than most SHA-256 and Scrypt coins out there. This will make more memory efficient.  Grin

 

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November 23, 2015, 01:59:48 AM
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GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task).  Smiley

For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage.
Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool...

what pow?

Cuckoo Cycle

https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo

is this something like scrypt-n but for sha256 to counteract asic? i seen somethign about memory there

sha256 is the simplest choice of compute-bound hash function in the Hashcash Proof of Work.
scrypt-n is an attempt to make the hash function require lots of memory but fails in three ways:
1) scrypt allows trading off memory for time
2) the larger n, the slower the hash computation, quickly making it unsuitable for fast verification
3) scrypt is still rather computation heavy

In Cuckoo Cycle computation is minimized and you spend most time waiting for memory.
You can scale memory use to the GB range while remaining instantly verifiable.
Trading off memory for time is not so feasible, incurring an extra order-of-magnitude slowdown.


All these ideas and features of the new Cuckoo Cycle algorithm, makes me think that we will be soon seeing CuckooCoin around. It will be better than most SHA-256 and Scrypt coins out there.

It's not even that new.

I published/announced it in early January 2014,
and in May 2014, courtesy of David Andersen,
the miner reached its current, presumably near-optimal form.

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This will make more memory efficient.

Not sure what you mean by that. Just having more memory by itself doesn't translate to increased cuckoo mining performance.
You also need more cores (or more hyperthreading) to keep that memory busy.

That's why the motto is: 1 memory bank + 1 virtual core = 1 vote
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November 23, 2015, 02:03:24 AM
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GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task).  Smiley

For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage.
Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool...

what pow?

Cuckoo Cycle

https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo

is this something like scrypt-n but for sha256 to counteract asic? i seen somethign about memory there

sha256 is the simplest choice of compute-bound hash function in the Hashcash Proof of Work.
scrypt-n is an attempt to make the hash function require lots of memory but fails in three ways:
1) scrypt allows trading off memory for time
2) the larger n, the slower the hash computation, quickly making it unsuitable for fast verification
3) scrypt is still rather computation heavy

In Cuckoo Cycle computation is minimized and you spend most time waiting for memory.
You can scale memory use to the GB range while remaining instantly verifiable.
Trading off memory for time is not so feasible, incurring an extra order-of-magnitude slowdown.


All these ideas and features of the new Cuckoo Cycle algorithm, makes me think that we will be soon seeing CuckooCoin around. It will be better than most SHA-256 and Scrypt coins out there. This will make more memory efficient.  Grin

It's not even that new.

I published/announced it in early January 2014,
and in May 2014, courtesy of David Andersen,
the miner reached its current, presumably near-optimal form.

I thought it was new, since I have never heard of such algorithm. It is a good thing I stay updated with the latest innovations in the crypto world right here on BCT. Thanks for sharing this information.  Wink

 

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November 23, 2015, 12:43:25 PM
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GPU which are more effective than CPUs for this task).  Smiley

For some PoWs, GPUs offer no advantage.
Some PoWs even leave your CPU running cool...

what pow?

Cuckoo Cycle

https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo

is this something like scrypt-n but for sha256 to counteract asic? i seen somethign about memory there

sha256 is the simplest choice of compute-bound hash function in the Hashcash Proof of Work.
scrypt-n is an attempt to make the hash function require lots of memory but fails in three ways:
1) scrypt allows trading off memory for time
2) the larger n, the slower the hash computation, quickly making it unsuitable for fast verification
3) scrypt is still rather computation heavy

In Cuckoo Cycle computation is minimized and you spend most time waiting for memory.
You can scale memory use to the GB range while remaining instantly verifiable.
Trading off memory for time is not so feasible, incurring an extra order-of-magnitude slowdown.


interesting, could this be a good deterrent for asic? without the need to upgrade the algo each time?
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November 23, 2015, 02:15:55 PM
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In Cuckoo Cycle computation is minimized and you spend most time waiting for memory.
You can scale memory use to the GB range while remaining instantly verifiable.
Trading off memory for time is not so feasible, incurring an extra order-of-magnitude slowdown.

interesting, could this be a good deterrent for asic? without the need to upgrade the algo each time?

To the extent that DRAM is an ASIC for reading and writing bits at random
(which is the bottleneck in Cuckoo Cycle) everyone already has an ASIC for this.

Changing PoWs is a not a feature you want in a truly decentralized coin.
Instead Cuckoo Cycle could dynamically change its size as I explain in the whitepaper.

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