2btc requested in pa with vehicle and title as collateral. pm to discuss

[jack reacher]

Basically i need  2 bitcoins for up to 1 month, but will most likely be paid much sooner. I can use the title of my vehicle and vehicle that kelly blue book value is around 2100. if anyone is interested and local, please let me know. thank

edit: interest would be at 20 percent. If i default we agree to sale the vehicle in the contract with lender receiving the current worth of 2.4 bitcoins.

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[idyu]

I not think that this is a valid collateral, you can just claim you lost it and you will get a replacment no?

[jack reacher]

I not think that this is a valid collateral, you can just claim you lost it and you will get a replacment no?

no. it would come with a written contract of course just like normal title loans

[mexxer-2]

I not think that this is a valid collateral, you can just claim you lost it and you will get a replacment no?

no. it would come with a written contract of course just like normal title loans

If it is the same then why not just take a loan in the real world? To me this just looks like a complicated scam attempt.

[jack reacher]

I not think that this is a valid collateral, you can just claim you lost it and you will get a replacment no?

no. it would come with a written contract of course just like normal title loans

If it is the same then why not just take a loan in the real world? To me this just looks like a complicated scam attempt.

what part of it looks like a scam? i live in pennsylvania that is why i requested someone in pennsylvania. if i wanted a loan of cash i would do that but i want the bitcoins. there is nothing at all that makes this look like a scam or of there is please point it out

[jack reacher]

I can even find anything about it that looks scammy at all. Me and a local meet up. He looks at the vehicle. Confirms the KBB value which is more than double my request. We have a written document created detailing the terms something saying i agree to pay back xxxx while lender holds title of vehicle. if i default lender now has ownership of vehicle. This happens everyday in the real world except without bitcoins

[YOLOMAN]

I can even find anything about it that looks scammy at all. Me and a local meet up. He looks at the vehicle. Confirms the KBB value which is more than double my request. We have a written document created detailing the terms something saying i agree to pay back xxxx while lender holds title of vehicle. if i default lender now has ownership of vehicle. This happens everyday in the real world except without bitcoins

What about getting the fiat and then buy some BTC ?  That happen all day long in this forum is easy to get BTC with fiat. Ain't saying this look like a scam or anything else just some advice to get what you need. greetings.

[jack reacher]

I can even find anything about it that looks scammy at all. Me and a local meet up. He looks at the vehicle. Confirms the KBB value which is more than double my request. We have a written document created detailing the terms something saying i agree to pay back xxxx while lender holds title of vehicle. if i default lender now has ownership of vehicle. This happens everyday in the real world except without bitcoins

What about getting the fiat and then buy some BTC ?  That happen all day long in this forum is easy to get BTC with fiat. Ain't saying this look like a scam or anything else just some advice to get what you need. greetings.

Buying bitcoins for someone like me i have to pay rediculous rates. i would be paying way too much over the value of the loan. i am also in need of this soon and coinbase sometimes takes up to 5 days for me.

[idyu]

Cmon i am sorry but i not belive you, the fees to buy bitcoins are not that high and why you need bitcoins so urgent?

Can you not pay or buy what you need using cash?

I can give you this loan but i need some trusted forum escrow hold the valid collateral for us

[jack reacher]

Cmon i am sorry but i not belive you, the fees to buy bitcoins are not that high and why you need bitcoins so urgent?

Can you not pay or buy what you need using cash?

I can give you this loan but i need some trusted forum escrow hold the valid collateral for us

just beat it man man. im looking for a bitcoin loan using this as collateral. i donot care what you believe. i do not want to deal with you. The fees for the loan say would be 20 percent then buying the bitcoins with the loan would be probably 10-20 percent over market so ya fees add up .

[bill gator]

Having the title to a car you could potentially junk for just as much money as you could sell, especially when it's such a low-valued vehicle isn't much collateral.
For all we know you're planning on burning this car and using the title as a way to scam someone out of 2BTC.

Holding on to the title when the car is practically garbage means nothing; You could have over-paid for this car, found out mechanical issues and are now attempting to make up loss.

I'm sorry your story doesn't hold up to my paranoid scrutiny, and I suggest you find different collateral or a different means to liquidate your vehicle.

[jack reacher]

Having the title to a car you could potentially junk for just as much money as you could sell, especially when it's such a low-valued vehicle isn't much collateral.
For all we know you're planning on burning this car and using the title as a way to scam someone out of 2BTC.

Holding on to the title when the car is practically garbage means nothing; You could have over-paid for this car, found out mechanical issues and are now attempting to make up loss.

I'm sorry your story doesn't hold up to my paranoid scrutiny, and I suggest you find different collateral or a different means to liquidate your vehicle.

that doesnt not make sense at all dude. you could not junk a car for close to the value of it . the car was just inspected in october.  The buyer would come see as i already said numerous and requested someone in my area so nothing you said makes any sense at all. How do you think title loans work in real life genius? they are inspected by the potential lender. I went over this already. Please at least read the posts already here before creating some elaborate scam scenario in your head. These loans happen everywhere everyday in the world, just not with bitcoin. a

holding on the title is what is done EVERYDAY as collateral for loans dude. look it up . google is your friend.

[bill gator]

Having the title to a car you could potentially junk for just as much money as you could sell, especially when it's such a low-valued vehicle isn't much collateral.
For all we know you're planning on burning this car and using the title as a way to scam someone out of 2BTC.

Holding on to the title when the car is practically garbage means nothing; You could have over-paid for this car, found out mechanical issues and are now attempting to make up loss.

I'm sorry your story doesn't hold up to my paranoid scrutiny, and I suggest you find different collateral or a different means to liquidate your vehicle.

that doesnt not make sense at all dude. you could not junk a car for close to the value of it . the car was just inspected in october.  The buyer would come see as i already said numerous and requested someone in my area so nothing you said makes any sense at all. How do you think title loans work in real life genius? they are inspected by the potential lender. I went over this already. Please at least read the posts already here before creating some elaborate scam scenario in your head. These loans happen everywhere everyday in the world, just not with bitcoin.

Please stop just rambling angrily like a child every time someone has a legitimate concern about the way you're attempting to transact business. Everything I said makes perfect sense and the fact that you choose to entirely re-direct my question, rather than answer it really does say a lot.

I'm just saying that it would be extremely easy for you to get into an "accident", "total it" or do something else to end it up in the junkyard and render the collateral without value.
My point being is this "title loan" going to be complex and in-depth enough to have contingency clauses and alternative collateral?

[jack reacher]

Having the title to a car you could potentially junk for just as much money as you could sell, especially when it's such a low-valued vehicle isn't much collateral.
For all we know you're planning on burning this car and using the title as a way to scam someone out of 2BTC.

Holding on to the title when the car is practically garbage means nothing; You could have over-paid for this car, found out mechanical issues and are now attempting to make up loss.

I'm sorry your story doesn't hold up to my paranoid scrutiny, and I suggest you find different collateral or a different means to liquidate your vehicle.

that doesnt not make sense at all dude. you could not junk a car for close to the value of it . the car was just inspected in october.  The buyer would come see as i already said numerous and requested someone in my area so nothing you said makes any sense at all. How do you think title loans work in real life genius? they are inspected by the potential lender. I went over this already. Please at least read the posts already here before creating some elaborate scam scenario in your head. These loans happen everywhere everyday in the world, just not with bitcoin.

Please stop just rambling angrily like a child every time someone has a legitimate concern about the way you're attempting to transact business. Everything I said makes perfect sense and the fact that you choose to entirely re-direct my question, rather than answer it really does say a lot.

I'm just saying that it would be extremely easy for you to get into an "accident", "total it" or do something else to end it up in the junkyard and render the collateral without value.
My point being is this "title loan" going to be complex and in-depth enough to have contingency clauses and alternative collateral?

You are not talking about legitimate concerns , you are making up scenarios of how im trying to scam someone. A contract would obviously include elements of any title loan. again you saying i redirected anything is more bs. What did i redirect?
Also, are you in pennsylvania? Are you a potential lender? The potential lender will reside in pennsylvania like i said previous times so contract terms would then be discussed and agreed upon. You are so intent on finding some elaborate scam.

[tmfp]

You haven't said how much interest you are prepared to pay.
With the current volatility of Bitcoin two months is a very long time, especially if the means of repayment involves you receiving dollars and converting them.
Say the BB value of $2100 is real, knock off 33% for a quick sale leaves collateral of $1400 for 2BTC. What happens when/if BTC hits $700 a week into the loan?

Just as a matter of interest, if you transfer the title, is your insurance still valid? How does that work in the U.S.?

[jack reacher]

You haven't said how much interest you are prepared to pay.
With the current volatility of Bitcoin two months is a very long time, especially if the means of repayment involves you receiving dollars and converting them.
Say the BB value of $2100 is real, knock off 33% for a quick sale leaves collateral of $1400 for 2BTC. What happens when/if BTC hits $700 a week into the loan?

Just as a matter of interest, if you transfer the title, is your insurance still valid? How does that work in the U.S.?

That is information that would be discusses with a potential lender.
The insurance is on the car, not on the person unless specifically exempted from the policy.

[jack reacher]

What about minimizing my request to 2 bitcoins for 1 month, lender holds my truck and title? I have already posted an ad for it on craigslist for 1,800 and immediately have an interested buyer within a few hours just to show that i am serious about the worth of the collateral. Lender holds my truck , title, and contract?
i would need to have this done before 3pm eastern  tomorrow though as im leaving for business.

[YOLOMAN]

What about minimizing my request to 2 bitcoins for 1 month, lender holds my truck and title? I have already posted an ad for it on craigslist for 1,800 and immediately have an interested buyer within a few hours just to show that i am serious about the worth of the collateral. Lender holds my truck , title, and contract?
i would need to have this done before 3pm eastern  tomorrow though as im leaving for business.

I guess you can share that post on craiglist here since people can go a head and find it theirself by  doing a quick search we looking for smoothness here nothing else. Hope you get the loan for your business trip.

[jack reacher]

What about minimizing my request to 2 bitcoins for 1 month, lender holds my truck and title? I have already posted an ad for it on craigslist for 1,800 and immediately have an interested buyer within a few hours just to show that i am serious about the worth of the collateral. Lender holds my truck , title, and contract?
i would need to have this done before 3pm eastern  tomorrow though as im leaving for business.

I guess you can share that post on craiglist here since people can go a head and find it theirself by  doing a quick search we looking for smoothness here nothing else. Hope you get the loan for your business trip.

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/5306661941.html

[btcbounty]

I Think your local money lenders can provide the loan for your vehicle as Collateral my suggestion is better you try in your local area then this forum you will get a more response.

[jack reacher]

I Think your local money lenders can provide the loan for your vehicle as Collateral my suggestion is better you try in your local area then this forum you will get a more response.

I want bitcoin deal . I think im offering a very safe loan.

[Quickseller]

I really do not think that you are going to be able to take out what is effectively a title loan here. Your biggest problem is that there are likely few people who live close enough to you so that they can take possession of your car prior to funding the loan.

I would say that the vast majority of people who regularly visit the forum also have zero experience in making (car) title loans which means it would be ill-advisible to make one without the assistance of someone they can/should trust that does have such experience (this person could advise a potential lender to certain risks in making a title loan that they might be unaware of).

I would say that if a lender can properly secure the title to your car, and can independently verify the value of your car (based on their independent assessment of it's condition), then the title would probably be valid collateral. However it would be very difficult for someone in China (or Europe, or Australia) to do this cost effectively.

[jack reacher]

I really do not think that you are going to be able to take out what is effectively a title loan here. Your biggest problem is that there are likely few people who live close enough to you so that they can take possession of your car prior to funding the loan.

I would say that the vast majority of people who regularly visit the forum also have zero experience in making (car) title loans which means it would be ill-advisible to make one without the assistance of someone they can/should trust that does have such experience (this person could advise a potential lender to certain risks in making a title loan that they might be unaware of).

I would say that if a lender can properly secure the title to your car, and can independently verify the value of your car (based on their independent assessment of it's condition), then the title would probably be valid collateral. However it would be very difficult for someone in China (or Europe, or Australia) to do this cost effectively.

That is why i continuously asked for someone in Pennsylvania although i guess neighboring states would work if it was done soon enough, however you do not have to have a speciality in giving a property loan. A sufficiently writtenand signed document would work out just fine. The vehicles value is well over 2x the value of the requested collateral . Pretty much any running truck is especially a very recently inspected and emmissions tested one.  Could also provide proof of new parts put corroborating with my craigslist post though i would have to go to my mechanic in the morning but that would only take 10 minutes

[darlingdarla]

I really do not think that you are going to be able to take out what is effectively a title loan here. Your biggest problem is that there are likely few people who live close enough to you so that they can take possession of your car prior to funding the loan.

I would say that the vast majority of people who regularly visit the forum also have zero experience in making (car) title loans which means it would be ill-advisible to make one without the assistance of someone they can/should trust that does have such experience (this person could advise a potential lender to certain risks in making a title loan that they might be unaware of).

I would say that if a lender can properly secure the title to your car, and can independently verify the value of your car (based on their independent assessment of it's condition), then the title would probably be valid collateral. However it would be very difficult for someone in China (or Europe, or Australia) to do this cost effectively.

That is why i continuously asked for someone in Pennsylvania although i guess neighboring states would work if it was done soon enough, however you do not have to have a speciality in giving a property loan. A sufficiently writtenand signed document would work out just fine. The vehicles value is well over 2x the value of the requested collateral . Pretty much any running truck is especially a very recently inspected and emmissions tested one.

I'm in a neighboring state.. and I was interested until I realized something. The car can devalue.. Meaning if something goes bad. BTW I must've missed it.. whats the make year an model. I'll look up kbb myself. If you want to put the VIN umber here thatll work too so I can pull a carfax. You can't say anything about identity because a carfax only tells car history. If both clears.. and you can sign your title over to me. via notary and the BMV. I'd be interested. Offer is out there. I know cars.. and I know when something is too good to be true.

[jack reacher]

I really do not think that you are going to be able to take out what is effectively a title loan here. Your biggest problem is that there are likely few people who live close enough to you so that they can take possession of your car prior to funding the loan.

I would say that the vast majority of people who regularly visit the forum also have zero experience in making (car) title loans which means it would be ill-advisible to make one without the assistance of someone they can/should trust that does have such experience (this person could advise a potential lender to certain risks in making a title loan that they might be unaware of).

I would say that if a lender can properly secure the title to your car, and can independently verify the value of your car (based on their independent assessment of it's condition), then the title would probably be valid collateral. However it would be very difficult for someone in China (or Europe, or Australia) to do this cost effectively.

That is why i continuously asked for someone in Pennsylvania although i guess neighboring states would work if it was done soon enough, however you do not have to have a speciality in giving a property loan. A sufficiently writtenand signed document would work out just fine. The vehicles value is well over 2x the value of the requested collateral . Pretty much any running truck is especially a very recently inspected and emmissions tested one.

I'm in a neighboring state.. and I was interested until I realized something. The car can devalue.. Meaning if something goes bad. BTW I must've missed it.. whats the make year an model. I'll look up kbb myself. If you want to put the VIN umber here thatll work too so I can pull a carfax. You can't say anything about identity because a carfax only tells car history. If both clears.. and you can sign your title over to me. via notary and the BMV. I'd be interested. Offer is out there. I know cars.. and I know when something is too good to be true.

i will pm you VIN. ID LIKE TO SEE CARFAX AS WELL AND THE CAR CANT DEVALUE MUCH OVER 30 DAYS MAN ESPECIALLY IF IT IS JUST SITTING. sorry for the caps there i didnt realize and im writin on tablet so dont want to rewrite

[darlingdarla]

I really do not think that you are going to be able to take out what is effectively a title loan here. Your biggest problem is that there are likely few people who live close enough to you so that they can take possession of your car prior to funding the loan.

I would say that the vast majority of people who regularly visit the forum also have zero experience in making (car) title loans which means it would be ill-advisible to make one without the assistance of someone they can/should trust that does have such experience (this person could advise a potential lender to certain risks in making a title loan that they might be unaware of).

I would say that if a lender can properly secure the title to your car, and can independently verify the value of your car (based on their independent assessment of it's condition), then the title would probably be valid collateral. However it would be very difficult for someone in China (or Europe, or Australia) to do this cost effectively.

That is why i continuously asked for someone in Pennsylvania although i guess neighboring states would work if it was done soon enough, however you do not have to have a speciality in giving a property loan. A sufficiently writtenand signed document would work out just fine. The vehicles value is well over 2x the value of the requested collateral . Pretty much any running truck is especially a very recently inspected and emmissions tested one.

I'm in a neighboring state.. and I was interested until I realized something. The car can devalue.. Meaning if something goes bad. BTW I must've missed it.. whats the make year an model. I'll look up kbb myself. If you want to put the VIN umber here thatll work too so I can pull a carfax. You can't say anything about identity because a carfax only tells car history. If both clears.. and you can sign your title over to me. via notary and the BMV. I'd be interested. Offer is out there. I know cars.. and I know when something is too good to be true.

i will pm you VIN. ID LIKE TO SEE CARFAX AS WELL AND THE CAR CANT DEVALUE MUCH OVER 30 DAYS MAN ESPECIALLY IF IT IS JUST SITTING. sorry for the caps there i didnt realize and im writin on tablet so dont want to rewrite

Its the end of the year. All cars devalue by december. So Yes please pm me the vin. Thanks.

[darlingdarla]

Based on the VIN check I would have to decline my offer. You will need some sort of other collateral. INdeed its a 15 year old car with 125k miles.. It doesn't suit me. The car won't suffice.

[jack reacher]

Based on the VIN check I would have to decline my offer. You will need some sort of other collateral. INdeed its a 15 year old car with 125k miles.. It doesn't suit me. The car won't suffice.

Based on the VIN check I would have to decline my offer. You will need some sort of other collateral. The car won't suffice.

Ok he makes it sound like there was something wrong with what I was saying however his reasoning ...

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It doesnt let me print or anything. But I only declined because its a 15 year old truck. and has 125k miles and wondering where the miles came from causse thats not a lot at all for 15 years.

Also the car has 145000 miles. The title just an estimate. Less miles is usually a good thing anyway.....

[jack reacher]

if anyone is truly interested a free vehicle history report can be found on motosnoop.com i can give you vin if interested

[jack reacher]

Ok I see interest is truly lacking here. Only "interested" person said my vehicle had too few miles, like that is a bad thing. I will leave this open until 2 pm eastern though.

[darlingdarla]

Ok I see interest is truly lacking here. Only "interested" person said my vehicle had too few miles, like that is a bad thing. I will leave this open until 2 pm eastern though.

nobody will do the trade. It's. Financial risk. Go to a title loan they'll give you 800 for it