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November 10, 2015, 04:58:12 PM
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It's correct for normal countries. It's unfortunately, but your belief doesn't matter in case of United States. US has imperial complex and forces every its citizen to fill a declaration of incomings, including those which were received outside of their actual jurisdiction. He will be taxed for the foreign incomings or prosecuted for tax evasion otherwise.

It's very funny because even the "totalitarian" DPRK doesn't force its citizen to act in such way.

OMG! If that is the case, then all of the American expatriates (perhaps with the exception of the diplomatic and military personal) are getting taxed twice, which is extremely unfair. Also, the income tax rate in the US is quite high (can go up to 53% in certain states, such as California and New York). A lot more people should be renouncing their American citizenship in that case.

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November 10, 2015, 05:44:51 PM
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It's correct for normal countries. It's unfortunately, but your belief doesn't matter in case of United States. US has imperial complex and forces every its citizen to fill a declaration of incomings, including those which were received outside of their actual jurisdiction. He will be taxed for the foreign incomings or prosecuted for tax evasion otherwise.

It's very funny because even the "totalitarian" DPRK doesn't force its citizen to act in such way.

OMG! If that is the case, then all of the American expatriates (perhaps with the exception of the diplomatic and military personal) are getting taxed twice, which is extremely unfair. Also, the income tax rate in the US is quite high (can go up to 53% in certain states, such as California and New York). A lot more people should be renouncing their American citizenship in that case.
It's not so simple to renounce your US citizenship. You have to pay fixed renounce fee along with so-called "expatriation tax" which depends on amount of your incomings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriation_tax#United_States

By the way, expatriation tax also applies to non-citizens, who were "granted" with residence permit. Yep, it's a nice scam scheme which treats individual as a kind of private property. Cheesy


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I think that some nation could do fairly well by saying something like:

"You know what?  The founders of the United States had some really good basic ideas about 'life, liberty, etc' and it served them well for a long time.  Now that the U.S. has abandoned most of these ideas and is adopting a position as just another part of the totalitarian one-world govt, we are going to adopt some of these good ideas and try to make our nation move in the direction envisioned by giants like Thomas Jefferson."

I bet that a lot of capable people would make tracks to their doorstep if they were demonstrably serious about such a strategy.  Russia with it's defensive capabilities and lack of significant carrying capacity issues would seem like the most promising of nations to try such a track.  I'm not holding my breath though.


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November 10, 2015, 06:06:14 PM
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It's correct for normal countries. It's unfortunately, but your belief doesn't matter in case of United States. US has imperial complex and forces every its citizen to fill a declaration of incomings, including those which were received outside of their actual jurisdiction. He will be taxed for the foreign incomings or prosecuted for tax evasion otherwise.

It's very funny because even the "totalitarian" DPRK doesn't force its citizen to act in such way.

OMG! If that is the case, then all of the American expatriates (perhaps with the exception of the diplomatic and military personal) are getting taxed twice, which is extremely unfair. Also, the income tax rate in the US is quite high (can go up to 53% in certain states, such as California and New York). A lot more people should be renouncing their American citizenship in that case.
It's not so simple to renounce your US citizenship. You have to pay fixed renounce fee along with so-called "expatriation tax" which depends on amount of your incomings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriation_tax#United_States

By the way, expatriation tax also applies to non-citizens, who were "granted" with residence permit. Yep, it's a nice scam scheme which treats individual as a kind of private property. Cheesy
Hm... Snowden's citizenship has been cancelled by US authorities after he left Hong-Kong. So it seems that Snowden-like method of renunciation is much more preferred in terms of costs & paper work.

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November 10, 2015, 06:33:20 PM
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Hm... Snowden's citizenship has been cancelled by US authorities after he left Hong-Kong. So it seems that Snowden-like method of renunciation is much more preferred in terms of costs & paper work.

Snowden can't travel outside Russia, and even inside Russia, there is a constant threat of the CIA either abducting or harming him. His property in the United States has been frozen, and he is barred from meeting his family members. Do you want yourself in such a situation? And that too, for the rest of your life? I don't think so.

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November 10, 2015, 09:02:44 PM
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Snowden can't travel outside Russia, and even inside Russia.

lol.

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I could think of worse places to live.

Saw a documentary last night called "Dreamcatcher" - about the life of a class of young black girls in Chicago that we aren't supposed to talk about. Disgraceful. And this in the richest nation on Earth. But give me 10 human beings with the same strength of character as Brenda Myers-Powell and the problems of one city could be overcome very quickly. Give me 1000 and.... who knows.

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Good for him, but is he trying to detract from his failed Hollywood career? Russia is as cold and miserable as New York.

Al Pacino is moving to China, by the way guize. Wink

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Fuck it - I'm off to Venezeula. Cuba.
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De Niro was opening another one of his part owned Nobu Japanese Restaurants for the megarich in Moscow.
He was being polite at the press conference, that's all.
Putin might like to add him to his collection of famous trophy westerners like Depardieu and Jones Jr., probably why the story's being spun by the Russian media, but De Niro's a thru and thru Obama supporting Democrat.

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Hm... Snowden's citizenship has been cancelled by US authorities after he left Hong-Kong. So it seems that Snowden-like method of renunciation is much more preferred in terms of costs & paper work.

Snowden can't travel outside Russia, and even inside Russia, there is a constant threat of the CIA either abducting or harming him. His property in the United States has been frozen, and he is barred from meeting his family members. Do you want yourself in such a situation? And that too, for the rest of your life? I don't think so.

Translated, you mean there are some fat slobs of excuses for CIA type agents who would rather go after an easy target like Snowden than some actual bad guy terrorists that might very likely shoot back.

Yep, that sounds plausible.  No, it's not exactly right.  Yes, the agents could do better for their country.
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De Niro was opening another one of his part owned Nobu Japanese Restaurants for the megarich in Moscow.
He was being polite at the press conference, that's all.
Putin might like to add him to his collection of famous trophy westerners like Depardieu and Jones Jr., probably why the story's being spun by the Russian media, but De Niro's a thru and thru Obama supporting Democrat.

He should move out of the country, most definitely.  Although most of the thru and thru Obama supporting Democrats and socialists are in Europe.

Not in the USA.

And he's an honorary citizen of Italy, I am sure there are many braindeadwashed there.
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De Niro was opening another one of his part owned Nobu Japanese Restaurants for the megarich in Moscow.
He was being polite at the press conference, that's all.
Putin might like to add him to his collection of famous trophy westerners like Depardieu and Jones Jr., probably why the story's being spun by the Russian media, but De Niro's a thru and thru Obama supporting Democrat.

So True ... question is .. why European / US press do not ask to any russian citizen ... if you want to make business in our country ... would you ask for being national citizen ... ?

Answer : Why i would need to do ? Hoo nothing this is just good for our propaganda ......

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November 12, 2015, 01:05:10 PM
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So True ... question is .. why European / US press do not ask to any russian citizen ...

LOL, You are a 0 in Russian Business questions.
All Russian Business are under Cyprus and Duch registered juridic names.
No smart people from RF goes to build juridic names in US.

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I guess it is good business idea to get citizenship fron low-tax place you have open businesses.
Also usa is not a dream anymore. So russia might not be best option there but still it is good.

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November 13, 2015, 09:18:02 AM
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I guess it is good business idea to get citizenship fron low-tax place you have open businesses.
Also usa is not a dream anymore. So russia might not be best option there but still it is good.

The very rich like De Niro don't have high tax problems in the West, they give their money to accountants to help avoid it.
The USA was certainly a dream fulfilled for De Niro and his family, third generation immigrants turned classic arty libs who would no more move to Putin's Russia than fly to the moon.

A total non story, crude propaganda from the ganstas, trying for credibility they're never going to get.

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It's correct for normal countries. It's unfortunately, but your belief doesn't matter in case of United States. US has imperial complex and forces every its citizen to fill a declaration of incomings, including those which were received outside of their actual jurisdiction. He will be taxed for the foreign incomings or prosecuted for tax evasion otherwise.

It's very funny because even the "totalitarian" DPRK doesn't force its citizen to act in such way.

OMG! If that is the case, then all of the American expatriates (perhaps with the exception of the diplomatic and military personal) are getting taxed twice, which is extremely unfair. Also, the income tax rate in the US is quite high (can go up to 53% in certain states, such as California and New York). A lot more people should be renouncing their American citizenship in that case.

You are taxed on the money you make in the US. If you are overseas you get the overseas income exemption up to about $100k.

For someone like DeNiro he would likely have an incorporation that is getting paid for his work which he can then incorporate somewhere outside of the US such as the Caymans. Then he can buy things with that corporation (corporate car, corporate house, company paid for meals, etc) while collecting a minimal income (to him) under $100k.

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I would take one and some free land in siberia even.


This is a real possibility, Pacific Ocean zone permit to have hektares for free. But what You will do there?

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I need to learn the language first though. Before I can try and submit forms.

You need learn nothing, if You buy land and home.
There is enough possibilities.

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I need to learn the language first though. Before I can try and submit forms.

You need learn nothing, if You buy land and home.
There is enough possibilities.
with money anything is possible, but money I do not have.
Anyone willing to sponsor me?
get me land and I'll work it and build my home.

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