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November 25, 2012, 08:56:42 PM
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There seems to have been a problem recently with a large stack of transactions failing
due to a double-spend far upstream. (see also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127531.0 )

For the following bet:
  http://www.btclucky.com/games_log/6e58604678d59a541f2a7d5ea4c0b096405091e0360255cf68703ad6fb82dea2.log
the bet itself still confirmed fine:
  http://blockchain.info/tx-index/34271677/6e58604678d59a541f2a7d5ea4c0b096405091e0360255cf68703ad6fb82dea2
but the payout of 0.01230400 was voided due to bad (double-spend derived) funds:
  http://blockchain.info/search?search=8a8bd0bc0f5230adfc12a8f95cfe16f9d73c6fd5f5390d2627525a379efbc066
     shows: "Sorry we could not find any blocks or transactions matching this hash"

Unless your software does it automatically, I'd request a manual correction.

PS: Among my own bets, there was one voided, as well (and so was its payout), and one
is still waiting for confirmation but has no reason not to get confirmed any time soon.
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November 26, 2012, 01:30:53 PM
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Unfortunately this website is dodgy.

See also this discussion (in Italian): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124274.msg1354469#msg1354469

“…virtual currencies, could have a substitution effect on central bank money if they become widely accepted.”
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November 26, 2012, 03:06:26 PM
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Unfortunately this website is dodgy.

See also this discussion (in Italian): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124274.msg1354469#msg1354469

Thanks for the pointer.  I google-translate-skimmed my way through it.

I don't know about errors with lucky#, but with respect to the voided payouts,
I believe that DadoSovr is victim to a higher degree than being a scammer.

I have seen two dice-games since satoshi-dice, btcdice and btclucky and both of them
were/are vulnerable to starving bets (that is: bets that propagate, but wont ever be confirmed).
Satoshidice is the only one essentially immune to such bets, in that it ties the payouts to the
bets: If then the bet becomes invalid, then so does the payout.

Now I guess, someone seems to have kind of "flooded" btclucky with starving bets,
and got non-starving returns.
Those starving funds were instead paid out to later players. Those, that now complain...

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December 04, 2012, 03:03:00 PM
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Confirmed: currently there’s every indication that they are thieves.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129070.0

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December 18, 2012, 08:54:22 AM
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December 18, 2012, 02:50:19 PM
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Confirmed: currently there’s every indication that they are thieves.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129070.0

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Lol.

On my approximative Italian I gather from the linked original that this is a situation very much akin to the bitdaytrade debacle. Specifically, the Davide Sovrano / DadoSovr character pretended to have written code which he didn't (giangel84 would appear the real author, probably freelancer working for hire), then was hit quite massively by the same doublespend problem that hit S.DICE. Unlike their model, bitlucky failed to even comprehend the problem let alone take precautions, and as a result a number of dissatisfied bettors started a riot (Stemby chief among them). The owner disappeared ("abandoned the project, the wallet and the support email").

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December 18, 2012, 07:46:15 PM
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It was a problem in the code. Not the double spending thing

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December 19, 2012, 01:13:27 AM
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In any case Davide Sovrano (DadoSovr) is a thief.

“…virtual currencies, could have a substitution effect on central bank money if they become widely accepted.”
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December 19, 2012, 08:24:29 AM
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It was a problem in the code. Not the double spending thing

Ah? Ok then.

So what about the doublespending thing? Seems to me they'd be equally open to it, is this correct?

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December 19, 2012, 08:51:22 AM
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So what about the doublespending thing? Seems to me they'd be equally open to it, is this correct?
Yes, in theory, because the site works like the original SatoshiDice: it accepts 0-confirmation transactions.

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