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US based users have some good US oonly options that are hard to ignore. Have you been through the list from my OP.?
The reputable ones are also the ones requiring the most information out of you. The problem is the U.S. based ones are restricted by the American government to ask for all of the information for the KYC regulations. It's not so much that I am concerned with staying private or anonymous, but more that I simply do not trust them with my information. The same problem caused me to stop using Coinbase as well, once they got hit with the regulations. There are also others that have more fees than what my uses are worth. Anonymity is something users are willing to give up on for better pricing on BTC/USD rates and fewer card fees. Same incentive behind signing up for a bitcoin exchange vs doing p2p trades. Makes sense. I would be willing to give it up as well if I had another choice. Are you U.S. based? If so, which one out of all the ones you have tried would you recommend and trust with your personal information? Considering you are the OP in this thread, I would assume that you've got a pretty good idea of how the different providers compare. Of course, this is just conjecture, but I would still appreciate your input. Additionally, how much information do they usually ask for? Besides full name and address, is actual identification proof asked for? How about even more sensitive items such as social security numbers, and how can one be sure that these won't be compromised either by the provider itself or by a hacker obtaining access to their database? Is there any sure way to know the information is actually secure or are we just left hoping that it is? That's really the only reason I don't trust these sites. For some states bitpay is the only choice, since coinbase does not serve every state. Bitpay requires the name, address and SSN. You don't need to send any proofs to them. You need to trust them that they don't give away your SSN. Bitpay card works very smoothly.
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US based users have some good US oonly options that are hard to ignore. Have you been through the list from my OP.?
The reputable ones are also the ones requiring the most information out of you. The problem is the U.S. based ones are restricted by the American government to ask for all of the information for the KYC regulations. It's not so much that I am concerned with staying private or anonymous, but more that I simply do not trust them with my information. The same problem caused me to stop using Coinbase as well, once they got hit with the regulations. There are also others that have more fees than what my uses are worth. Anonymity is something users are willing to give up on for better pricing on BTC/USD rates and fewer card fees. Same incentive behind signing up for a bitcoin exchange vs doing p2p trades. Makes sense. I would be willing to give it up as well if I had another choice. Are you U.S. based? If so, which one out of all the ones you have tried would you recommend and trust with your personal information? Considering you are the OP in this thread, I would assume that you've got a pretty good idea of how the different providers compare. Of course, this is just conjecture, but I would still appreciate your input. Additionally, how much information do they usually ask for? Besides full name and address, is actual identification proof asked for? How about even more sensitive items such as social security numbers, and how can one be sure that these won't be compromised either by the provider itself or by a hacker obtaining access to their database? Is there any sure way to know the information is actually secure or are we just left hoping that it is? That's really the only reason I don't trust these sites. For some states bitpay is the only choice, since coinbase does not serve every state. Bitpay requires the name, address and SSN. You don't need to send any proofs to them. You need to trust them that they don't give away your SSN. Bitpay card works very smoothly. I just took a look at it and it seems to be pretty neat as well. I might end up going with them if I find the Shift card to be insufficient. Luckily for me, I live in one of the states that they do operate in. However, I cannot quite find the relation between Shift and Coinbase, as they seem to be separate entities from what I have seen. I have also heard bad things about Coinbase as of late, so if they are related this might nudge me over to Bitpay.
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Good to see US residents are utilizing the outstanding options in terms of Bitcoin debit cards that are available to them. Feel free to report back with your experience if you end up ordering a card.
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Hey i would like to ask if what debit card are real i mean not a prepaid cards i want is debit card that can deposit a money or bitcon that i can use to verify paypal account can you give some debit card that actually i can deposit bitcoin and verify paypal account and i would like to ask or just a tip me if there is a debit card that i can use in bing ads and google ads... reloadable?
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July 21, 2017, 05:10:45 AM |
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Hey i would like to ask if what debit card are real i mean not a prepaid cards i want is debit card that can deposit a money or bitcon that i can use to verify paypal account can you give some debit card that actually i can deposit bitcoin and verify paypal account and i would like to ask or just a tip me if there is a debit card that i can use in bing ads and google ads... reloadable?
You should be fine using any Visa card. I verified my PayPal account in the past using E-coin (Wirex) virtual card and It worked just fine. (I don't recommend the service anymore though as the fees are simply high now) but anything else like Coinsbank should do the trick.
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July 21, 2017, 06:05:05 AM |
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Hey i would like to ask if what debit card are real i mean not a prepaid cards i want is debit card that can deposit a money or bitcon that i can use to verify paypal account can you give some debit card that actually i can deposit bitcoin and verify paypal account and i would like to ask or just a tip me if there is a debit card that i can use in bing ads and google ads... reloadable?
All those cards in the list are reloadable except for the ones explicitly marketed as prepaid. Just Uphold has only prepaid cards. The rest will be fine with PayPal.
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Hi, everyone. I am from Algeria. I need a Visa card to verify my Paypal account. My country is in the list of restricted countries of all bitcoin debit card providers. However, Lavapay seem to be open to anyone and offer anonymous prepaid bitcoin cards that can be linked to any name and address. they say that their cards can be used to verify Paypal. I need advice, should I go for it ?
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Can I use a unverified virtual debit card for ebay shopping? If yes, which payment processor would be the best?
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Can I use a unverified virtual debit card for ebay shopping? If yes, which payment processor would be the best?
I've tried with on eBay and PayPal without any problem. Take this with a grain of salt though, my suggestion would be to try with a cheap virtual card and a small amount first. Be sure to report back with the results.
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Can I use a unverified virtual debit card for ebay shopping? If yes, which payment processor would be the best?
Yes you can use those unverified cards to shop on ebay, but remember those cards have a limit of $250 which after you will need to be verified and so provide some documents such as your Id card, utility bill, etc. As for the question which payment processor, i think you mean which providers? Because those services are not a payment processor... Anyway all are the same as the card is the same issued by the same company
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Thank you very much for this report, I've moved Coinizy (Kardiz) to the Quarantine section. I really hope scam accusations will be resolved but things don't look too great for their users.
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I received a mail today from paycent where they announced to give up the project and recommend this card provider https://shakepay.co/#/By the fees I see that are not special and more favorable than others. P.S.:Thanks for the tips but I have not yet tried to test if the virtual debt card works on ebay.Lack of time
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Did you guys see the new Centra movie? When it comes to debit/credit cards, from the looks of it they're already quite far in connecting your crypto to paying in actual stores. Didn't see it mentioned in the opening post yet and it's not readily available yet I know, but it looks quite cool. They also seem to have visa/mastercard backing but I can't find anything on that on the net apart from their own website. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i17ju6gCu3wThought it was worth mentioning in this thread anway.
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Did you guys see the new Centra movie? When it comes to debit/credit cards, from the looks of it they're already quite far in connecting your crypto to paying in actual stores. Didn't see it mentioned in the opening post yet and it's not readily available yet I know, but it looks quite cool. They also seem to have visa/mastercard backing but I can't find anything on that on the net apart from their own website. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i17ju6gCu3wThought it was worth mentioning in this thread anway. There are actually several physical bitcoin debit cards that are available for delivery and can allow for direct spending of BTC to stores. I don't know how the ones supported by ICOs will come about though, it seems to be like some people took advantage of the ICO boom to attract investors over a service that'd need very little in investment and has questionable profitability anyway.
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Yeah I think there's TenX, Centra and Monaco currently? I think the biggest thing is having some kind of agreement with the largest credit card companies to get wide coverage, next to that having the insurance is nice as Centra has. Then again, looking at TenX it's doing pretty well on exchanges so far. Just had a quick look at Monaco and it's seem to do a little less well than TenX, but still good.
The question is though; although the possibility is there - how many people really want to spend their crypto? We all know the story of paying millions for a pizza (in hindsight) so will people actually be willing to spend their coins instead of hodling and using as investment?
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August 14, 2017, 06:33:11 PM |
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The question is though; although the possibility is there - how many people really want to spend their crypto? We all know the story of paying millions for a pizza (in hindsight) so will people actually be willing to spend their coins instead of hodling and using as investment?
Of course everybody wants to spend their savings eventually, there is no point in saving otherwise.
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Yeah true eventually, but at this point, as the cards come out, there are not many people that have arrived at that point where they can just not care about the amount of coins that they have. Anyway, that's what I would do.
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Miners, ICO issuers, traders and plenty of other people who earn crypto tokens this or that way need to spend (fraction of) them to pay their bills. Crypto cards don't pop up with no reason, there is a demand for their services.
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Can som1 recommend me some good alt coin card?
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