IS video threatens attacks in Russia

[Pegas]

Islamic State has released a video threatening attacks in Russia "very soon" in revenge for Russian bombing in Syria, the SITE monitoring group said on Thursday, and the Kremlin said Russian state security services would study the material.

Al-Hayat Media Center, the militant group's foreign language media division, released a video in Russian with chants of "Soon, very soon, the blood will spill like an ocean", SITE reported.

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Video really terrible

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[BADecker]

ISIS has to threaten. If they don't, they are beaten entirely. Let them attack. They will be beaten in their attacks just as they have been beaten in Syria.

[panju1]

ISIS is essentially a localized mafia. All they can do outside their Iraq-Syria fiefdom is threaten.
Russia won't be terribly worried about these threats. Russian retribution is usually swift and deadly.

[Gronthaing]

ISIS is essentially a localized mafia. All they can do outside their Iraq-Syria fiefdom is threaten.
Russia won't be terribly worried about these threats. Russian retribution is usually swift and deadly.

Not that easy. There can be problems in russian muslim regions. Like in the caucasus for example. Or with the russians fighters that went to syria to fight against assad. There are probably thousands of them there. And they will return home at some point.

[MichealKnightrider]

Of course they're throwing around threaths no suprise here.

It's what they all do when they don't get what they want.

This war that they're fighting is all about religion, power and money.

[croato]

I dont think IS will achieve anything with their threats to Russia. ISIS threats to everyone cause that is what terrorist do but in Russia case that could cost them a lot, specialy now when Russia search way to get back in high game.

[Hazir]

ISIS is essentially a localized mafia. All they can do outside their Iraq-Syria fiefdom is threaten.
Russia won't be terribly worried about these threats. Russian retribution is usually swift and deadly.

Not that easy. There can be problems in russian muslim regions. Like in the caucasus for example. Or with the russians fighters that went to syria to fight against assad. There are probably thousands of them there. And they will return home at some point.

You are right. That is the reason Putin chose to battle against Russian Muslims fighting for IS on  the enemy territory, and not on his home ground.
ISIS will have hard time when they decide to oppose Russia openly. Russians are not Americans, they don't negotiate.

[BADecker]

Best thing for Putin to do is make the Russian Orthodox Church (a Christian church) to be the official church of Russia, and give the Russian Muslims a chance to convert. If they don't convert, kick them out of Russia. If they DO convert, make them join the military in a separated fashion, so that their Christian fellow soldiers make sure the conversion is real.

[Balthazar]

ISIS is essentially a localized mafia. All they can do outside their Iraq-Syria fiefdom is threaten.
Russia won't be terribly worried about these threats. Russian retribution is usually swift and deadly.

Not that easy. There can be problems in russian muslim regions. Like in the caucasus for example. Or with the russians fighters that went to syria to fight against assad. There are probably thousands of them there. And they will return home at some point.

There are dozens of cases when son or nephew came to the police after their father or uncle returned from Syria.  Some of them even used a physical force against their relatives in order to bring them into police. Another well known practice is blocking the entrances to house, which is owned by family of IS member. After that house is being doused with gasoline and then set on fire. The road is blocked, so firefighters can't drive there and house burns to the ashes. End of story.

Islam is not that easy, please don't believe "there are some abstract muslims in the Caucasus and abstract Putin is abstractly afraid of them" narrative. Almost all of religious population in Chechnya or Dagestan are very strong followers of sufism. Sufists believe that IS members are representing the devil himself, that these "messengers of Hell" must be eliminated. They even have some quotes from the Quran in support of this point of view. You're virtually dead if you ever had said something good about the Islamic State, this belief is so strong that they rarely ready to forgive even their own flesh & blood.

[galdur]

“Where are you going?” he asked Nasrudin.
“I am going,” said the Mulla, “to be hanged on those gallows.”
“I don’t believe you.”
“Very well, then. If I have told a lie, hang me!”
“But that would make it the truth,” spluttered the captain
“That’s right,” said Nasrudin. “Your truth.”

[Spendulus]

ISIS is essentially a localized mafia. All they can do outside their Iraq-Syria fiefdom is threaten.
Russia won't be terribly worried about these threats. Russian retribution is usually swift and deadly.

Not that easy. There can be problems in russian muslim regions. Like in the caucasus for example. Or with the russians fighters that went to syria to fight against assad. There are probably thousands of them there. And they will return home at some point.

There are dozens of cases when son or nephew came to the police after their father or uncle returned from Syria.  Some of them even used a physical force against their relatives in order to bring them into police. Another well known practice is blocking the entrances to house, which is owned by family of IS member. After that house is being doused with gasoline and then set on fire. The road is blocked, so firefighters can't drive there and house burns to the ashes. End of story.

Islam is not that easy, please don't believe "there are some abstract muslims in the Caucasus and abstract Putin is abstractly afraid of them" narrative. Almost all of religious population in Chechnya or Dagestan are very strong followers of sufism. Sufists believe that IS members are representing the devil himself, that these "messengers of Hell" must be eliminated. They even have some quotes from the Quran in support of this point of view. You're virtually dead if you ever had said something good about the Islamic State, this belief is so strong that they rarely ready to forgive even their own flesh & blood.

Well, they may not drink, but I pledge to buy the beer anytime these guys are around.  Or whatever they want in place of beer.

[FrostStick]

France and now Russia? Jesus. Have some respect.

[Pierre 2]

They threatened Russia and attacked France. They could not really understand the flag?
Well it was kidding but you know. Threats are no important. If they do real attack just be scared. Try to stay away from crowded places.

[bryant.coleman]

Best thing for Putin to do is make the Russian Orthodox Church (a Christian church) to be the official church of Russia, and give the Russian Muslims a chance to convert. If they don't convert, kick them out of Russia. If they DO convert, make them join the military in a separated fashion, so that their Christian fellow soldiers make sure the conversion is real.

This strategy was tried earlier, in the 17th and 18th centuries by the Russian Empire. Most of the Muslims living in the Empire (especially the Tatars, Bashkirs, and the Circassians) were forcibly converted to Orthodoxy. But 80% of them went back to Islam, once the power of the Orthodox church weakened in the 19th century.

[Balthazar]

Best thing for Putin to do is make the Russian Orthodox Church (a Christian church) to be the official church of Russia, and give the Russian Muslims a chance to convert. If they don't convert, kick them out of Russia. If they DO convert, make them join the military in a separated fashion, so that their Christian fellow soldiers make sure the conversion is real.

This strategy was tried earlier, in the 17th and 18th centuries by the Russian Empire. Most of the Muslims living in the Empire (especially the Tatars, Bashkirs, and the Circassians) were forcibly converted to Orthodoxy. But 80% of them went back to Islam, once the power of the Orthodox church weakened in the 19th century.

Yep, that was a failure indeed. On the other hand, many of them kept their new faith. One of my colleagues, for example, is christian tatar.

[Balthazar]

http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201511151503-ofkk.htm

 

[Spendulus]

http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201511151503-ofkk.htm

 

I think I understand.

But could you translate a bit?

[Spendulus]

France and now Russia? Jesus. Have some respect.

In the past, aggressors that have launched 2 front wars where one side was attacking Russia have not exactly fared well.  (Hitler, Napoleon.....)

[Balthazar]

http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201511151503-ofkk.htm

 

I think I understand.

But could you translate a bit?

IS spoke person has been shelled to death.

For years, Abu Hamza al-served as a PR man of the IS. He made many reports on cruel executions. This militant could not hide his pleasure, and sometimes he personally participated in the executions. His last words were "brave revolutionaries just got a control over this place".

[galdur]

Maybe the Russian intelligence services aren´t in the freakin bed with these terrorists. I don´t know; I guess terrorists look for easy soft targets where they can set up their operations without too much interference. Also for publicity, in the western world at least, Paris in France carries more weight than Makhachkala in Russia.  Western presstitutes and other morons might go on for a few days about how it´s pronounced. No emotional porn binge equity for them there.