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November 14, 2015, 04:29:43 PM |
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People forget, terrorism is a two sided equation. For society to dismantle it you have to address the elements on BOTH sides.
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November 14, 2015, 04:45:50 PM |
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If the percentage of terrorists among them is only 0.01% you have 100 terrorists that have freely walked into the EU. People should not be wondering why these attacks are happening. They need to realize that this refugee nonsense needs to stop because it can only cause trouble nothing else.
As per the latest polls, 20% of the Syrian refugees in the EU are sympathetic towards the ISIS. That is much more than 0.01%. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Merkel thought that by flooding the EU with Muslim immigrants, she will be left with a loyal vote-bloc and will be able to remain in power for the rest of her life. But it seems that she will be ousted even before the Muslims manage to get their voter IDs. The anti-immigrant mood is soaring in the EU. I was surprised at the latest opinion poll from Sweden: http://www.electograph.com/2015/11/sweden-november-2015-sentio-poll.htmlAnd Marine Le Pen is #1 in France right now: http://www.electograph.com/2015/11/france-presidential-november-2015.html
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November 14, 2015, 04:51:38 PM |
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If europeans are worried about terrorism, they need to start looking for ways to resolve the issues at the source, the clusterfuck they instigated in the ME.
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November 14, 2015, 04:55:54 PM |
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If europeans are worried about terrorism, they need to start looking for ways to resolve the issues at the source, the clusterfuck they instigated in the ME.
Why blame europe? We are just working out the shit which the usa+lapdog uk produced.
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November 14, 2015, 05:04:17 PM |
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The Greek government has announced one of the terrorist gunmen who had a part in killing over 120 in Paris on Friday evening entered Europe while masquerading as a refugee just six weeks ago. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/14/paris-terrorist-migrant-registered-refugee-greece/
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Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle.
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November 14, 2015, 05:06:35 PM |
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If europeans are worried about terrorism, they need to start looking for ways to resolve the issues at the source, the clusterfuck they instigated in the ME.
Why blame europe? We are just working out the shit which the usa+lapdog uk produced. Things don't happen in a vacuum, Go back in history and see the stepping stones to how we got into the cul-de-sac, Since WWII the West has sought to dictate how the ME will be divided geographically, who will rule it, and who will control its resources. A fairly bitter pill for any rational person living in the region to accept. Irrational circumstances inspires extremist behaviour.
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November 14, 2015, 05:07:41 PM |
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Actually this should be expanded in to a new topic. This is very very significant. If this could be proven, then expect Angela Merkel's approval ratings to go down the drain. I will be more cautious though. None of the mainstream media sources are mentioning this. Right now I am watching RT, and they will be the first to report this if it could be confirmed.
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November 14, 2015, 05:18:32 PM |
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its real , confirmed on greek government site
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November 14, 2015, 05:26:14 PM |
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In such a mass of people certainly is a lot of ISIL fighters who in a very easy way entering into all European countries.Just imagine that this what happened last night to become something that happens every day,and considering how many possible terrorists are already in the EU we can not hope anything good.
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November 14, 2015, 05:54:36 PM |
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If europeans are worried about terrorism, they need to start looking for ways to resolve the issues at the source, the clusterfuck they instigated in the ME.
Why blame europe? We are just working out the shit which the usa+lapdog uk produced. Things don't happen in a vacuum, Go back in history and see the stepping stones to how we got into the cul-de-sac, Since WWII the West has sought to dictate how the ME will be divided geographically, who will rule it, and who will control its resources. A fairly bitter pill for any rational person living in the region to accept. Irrational circumstances inspires extremist behaviour. Well, it´s hardly our fault that all this oil happens to be under the feet of the muslims. They should have had the foresight to just be somewhere else.
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November 14, 2015, 06:02:21 PM |
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And if those muslims resent being blown to smitherrens and having their resources stolen why don´t they go somewhere else...oh they are, Finally.
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November 14, 2015, 06:18:44 PM |
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Brilliantly put!
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November 15, 2015, 03:47:49 AM |
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In such a mass of people certainly is a lot of ISIL fighters who in a very easy way entering into all European countries.Just imagine that this what happened last night to become something that happens every day,and considering how many possible terrorists are already in the EU we can not hope anything good. "The big question on everyone's mind is: Were these attackers — if they turn out to be connected to one of the groups in Syria — were they homegrown terrorists or were they returning fighters?" Now why do the European countries not pass a law that any person going to Syria to fight with ISIS or other terrorist groups automatically loses his host country citizenship. That way you do not have to accept returning battle trained citizens as they are in fact no longer citizens. And since Syria was their last country of origin they should be returned to Syria and flown to Latakia where Assad can deal with them. This tactic would cut back significantly on the number of people the security police would have to keep tabs on. Every little bit helps.
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November 15, 2015, 04:26:24 AM |
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In such a mass of people certainly is a lot of ISIL fighters who in a very easy way entering into all European countries.Just imagine that this what happened last night to become something that happens every day,and considering how many possible terrorists are already in the EU we can not hope anything good. That is not so certain. I thought the actions of ISIS, militarily, were pretty smart. Take over oil wells and land and carve out a nation amidst weak middle eastern cultures. I think it's really stupid to revert to Al Queda style terror bombings. That will get them exterminated and yes it will get a lot of innocent civilians killed in the process. Such is war. They may have just jumped the shark.
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November 15, 2015, 05:17:17 AM |
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French President Francois Hollande says the terror attacks on Paris were an “an act of war” and blamed Islamic State for the bloodshed. Yeah, business has been booming lately...more weapons deals with ISIS main sponsors... ---------------------- France: Saudi Arabia's New Arms Dealer August 10, 2015 Influential members of the Saudi Arabian government believe that the United States—the kingdom’s most valuable strategic ally since 1945—has abandoned Riyadh on a host of regional issues, most notably Iran’s nuclear program. As the Saudis respond by seeking to enhance their political and economic relations with powers other than the United States, France sees an opportunity to supplant Washington as Riyadh’s closest ally. While it remains unlikely that Paris will entirely replace Washington as Saudi Arabia’s most important ally, France can compete with the United States to become the kingdom’s top supplier of advanced military technology in the future. ,,, Although France’s economy barely maintains positive GDP growth rates, its arms industry is booming. As the world’s fourth largest arms exporter (behind the United States, Russia, and China), France sold nearly double the amount of arms in the first five months of 2015 (more than $16 billion) than in all of 2014. From 2010 to 2014, 38 percent of French arms exports went to the Middle East, making it the most important region for the country’s arms industry (30 percent went to Asia; 13 percent to Europe; 11 percent to North and South America; and four percent to Africa). France’s arms sales for the first half of 2015 created more than 30,000 jobs— significant for a country grappling with record high unemployment. ... http://www.nationalinterest.org/feature/france-saudi-arabias-new-arms-dealer-13533
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November 15, 2015, 05:27:27 AM |
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When you shovel weapons into a war zone what the hell do you think happens? That universal peace will spontaneously break out in the region? Think you´ll be drowning in new friends? Right.
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November 15, 2015, 05:50:10 AM |
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If you come home and see two neighbours fighting, give them knives and weapons it will end well
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November 15, 2015, 06:04:49 AM Last edit: November 15, 2015, 06:23:24 AM by galdur |
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I saw Europe 1 in France claim that the terrorists were teenagers, 15-18. No idea if that´s correct and I lost the link somehow. If it´s true I doubt that you´ll see it mentioned much in the mass media. Prosecutor Francois Molins: "We have to find out where they came from... and how they were financed" Absolutely. To avoid the "mistakes" of others don´t repeat them. Most of the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi Arabia which meant that U.S. lips smooched medieval Saudi fruitcake asses more than ever and every effort was made to avoid investigating the financing. It was ready-made villains from day one.
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November 15, 2015, 09:47:48 AM |
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So, more idiots want to blow themselves up and take others lives.
No, it's not the Jews, Israel or the Mossad. Or the "zionist" blah blah blah whatever.
Let's stop the misinformation and propaganda machines before they even starts up thread titles insinuating otherwise.
It seems very convenient that Isis has claimed responsibility for the attacks. I dont really have much to say on the matter but as much as is it terrible people in france suffer people all over the world suffer daily.
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November 15, 2015, 01:24:55 PM |
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http://news.yahoo.com/paris-attacked-police-hunt-accomplices-065411619.htmlAn interesting comment there, posted about 3 hours ago, if someone cares to scroll through them all: I have known for months that something like this was in the making. These events were almost certainly organized and/or provocateured by one or more intelligence agencies. If you think that that's farfetched, do some research on "Operation Gladio". It included deadly terrorist bombings killing large numbers of people that were organized by NATO and the European secret services during the Cold War. Those atrocities were blamed on communists in order to reduce support of left-wing political options among the general public. This time the goal is to provide propaganda for the NATO countries' neocolonial invasions and occupations of countries in the Mideast and North Africa that are rich in oil, gas and other resources. Russia's successful campaign in Syria is no doubt one of the factors that precipitated the execution of this plot. If all of the Orwellian surveillance of the general public in western countries these days is being justified by the phony "War on Terror", then how did people who should have been top on the list of people being watched, manage to obtain the training and weapons needed to pull this off? The mercenary thugs known variously as ISIS, IS, and Al Qaeda, are the proxy army of the imperialists and warmongers. They are used to destabilize and create chaos in target countries that is cynically used to justify military interventions and the installation and/or support of puppet governments. This whole program of endless war, profiteering and plunder goes directly back to the mother of all false flag operations - 9/11. That is why it is more urgent than ever to demand the real criminal investigation of that pivotal event before we're led once again like sheep into a world war. In today's world, with so much information available thanks to the internet, there is no more excuse for people to let their corrupt leaders manipulate them into supporting more war.
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